Slowing already. Let's keep up the pace, everyone. Small sums count.
Playing with newbies in the forest is also a great help.
More people been trying this game out by each day. Let's show 'em the magic of this place.

Terabetha,
I recall you mentioned being open to collaborate on a physical perk for M&A's campaign? Jewelry, etc.?
If it were, now would be a good time to hit them up about it.

I'm definetly tapped out sadly. 100 euros was kinda my limit, though I may give a bit more here and there.
Maybe we should focus on spreading the word more?

I contacted a super old friend of mine who happens to be a fairly well known artist on dA, many of her followers enjoy roleplaying so I'm hoping that the journal she was kind enough to post for me will be helpful in bringing in new faces and more donations alike. I can't contribute much of anything myself monetarily, so I hope this helps <3

Speaking of physical perks, I just though that al least something like those beautiful postcards from the ToT store would be amazing!
http://store.tale-of-tales.com/product/the-endless-forest-set-of-4-postcards

Oooh yeah! A new phase! It is nice to see that the campaign has been extended! It is a shame though that the donating has slowed down for now.

The postcards would be a good perk but there's not really a lot left. We'll consider it.

Hopefully there will be another peak in contributions right before the end. Would be nice. Because this slowing down doesn't bode well for a post-IndieGogo fundraising campaign.

23,490! We're almost close to 60%! But still, keep on donating and spreading the word as much as possible!

I've done all I could but I'll keep trying ;; (dA, Twitter, here, Facebook, etc).

I am definitley in no position to donate any further - regrettably - as I have now been made redundant and I have to make my belated payout last for quite some time....

However, I just submitted a blog entry, pending, to The Divine Cervine group on deviantart which has a veeeeerryyy large deer artist userbase. I hope It helps <3

@ starling: Lol thats because I am a moderator on The Divine Cervine

Pretty sure you can go through PayPal which will allow you to donate with a bank account, but I think they usually require a backup payment method at registration as well, so maybe not unless you can make that one another bank account? I haven't looked in a long time, to be honest.

Terabetha,
This is great news, thanks for the heads up.

Everyone,
Reddit hasn't been covered yet, 'cept for these two parts.
If any of you got an active account on there, throwing a link in the /r/gaming may be worth a shot.
Ironically.

If it doesn't work through IndieGogo, you can contribute via the regular donations page and email us to tell us which perk you'd like.

Woah! We gained another 2% since I checked in last night. It's not much in the grand scheme of things, but I think that's the most rapid gain since the extension started.

Soli - No, it's a thing lol. Though I can't find those exact ones.

Twitter screenshots? Really? You are better than this!

You'd get a different response from the devs if you bothered to look up the original tweets, their
context and M&A's statement on quitting games, and
weigh it all before making your conclusions.

I'm not gonna touch on identifying yourselves as part of a statistic group [gamers], and not as individuals. And getting offended as part of that group.
Not coming on here to talk politics.

Two things for those who like to keep their facts straight:

The tweets these screenshot ones were referring to can be googled and
were posted back in June 22, 2015 as a response to personX on personX's twitter.
Spoken in a private conversation [yeah, as private as twitter gets].

It was the trash media that picked it up and popularized that scoop as if it was ToT's official standpoint.
You should know how tabloids go: take a celebrity, rake up some dirt.

So how come you sing along?

I admit that I'm posting on new account because I'm afraid to be deleted

Agree with TheLifeHacker 1000000%
Community is upset not only because they're offended. They're also upset because the creator's attitude has made a lot of people not want to donate outside of TEF but they're not trying to reach out and taking no responsibility. And then say community made a mistake encouraging a longer campaign.

Looks like the ability to comment on other blogs, Campaign extended and Statistics is turned off.


But is this really all we get in response to our questions? Just because one person pisses off?
We ask for answers and make criticism and the players and donators are ignored and blocked from commenting. What's this.

Clicking your name still leads to access denied helel
Can understand the comment being deleted becuase its not relevant to the campaign and also was from michael's personal twitter and not Tale Of Tales
But being blocked is a bad move they made. Shutting community up in fear and asking for money doesn't look good.

TheLifeHacker,


Yeah, I covered my view on that in a comment to the Statistics blog.

I don't set out to bring anyone down, and that one argument snowballed before I stepped in.
Now, I can take all I've said back if I could find an answer to this question:

How bringing up these tweets now isn't a retaliation for the perceived blame and
pressure M&A placed on the community and the frustration tefers felt because of it [& @campaign doing badly in general]?
And if it's been an ongoing thing, community getting bashed by M&A on regular basis[?], on twitter[?], like
you say, how come it surfaces on that day, on that thread?
If it's been that bad, how come everyone kept silent up until now?

If the community's been targeted by the devs and had no means to express
their concern before, alright, I'd see your point there.

Otherwise, it looks like a snap back, nothing more. And an immature one at that.
With those tweets used as a sucker punch.
I, again, commend the people who managed to stay calm and address the devs in a positive manner [Vee, Evern, to name a few].
But nobody set out to address the angry players, Michaël hadn't signed on yet and that's why I stepped in.
I don't personally care if the community is childish or not, whether they like me or not, I care to show them how their reaction looks from M&A's perspective.

The 'blame' was a bad misunderstanding on tefc's part. As well as the 'pressure' to empty your pockets.
None of that was in their message.
When M&A shared their concerns on the campaign statistics, they didn't expect people to interpret it this way and snowball it into full-blown accusations.

Put yourself in their place, for a sec. Not into the mind of a high-and-mighty artist you may imagine now, but simply, a human being.

You can't expect them to wipe the spit off their face and talk to you like that attack never happened.

People assault them and when the devs don't comply after, put that down as another thing to hate on.
This can and will spiral until people stop and think what caused that and if it was even warranted.

So far it's all emotions, little else.

parrotsnpineapple,

I need to rephrase it, then:
No matter the age, education, maturity, the devs have feelings, too. They, too, can get hurt.

My tongue have many words but no it is not pretty. I felt that something smells badly in the beginning.

- They move into a new house> then launch a campaign to develop Endless Forest...
- Pressure on the Community with threat to the endangered existence of The Endless Forest (also, it was earlier here).
- Pinched campaing tome before Christmas Holidays and illogical behavior in the campaign tageting against the Community opinions and economic backgrounds (especially, there are students...).
- btw; IndieGo enable pick up the money, although not achieve the goal > then developers can initiate voluntary donate in the Community like before (and actually, 20k euros certainly allow start of development; in addition, UnityEngine is available free and quick-learning...).
- Off comments in IndieGo Statistics post and current behavior of developers.
- No transparent to see where the rised money goes. No attempt to initiate to start REAL development of the new version of Endless Forest. Lots of gold speech...
- M&A have really poor ideas about a "new verison" of Endless Forest. Even these fantastic Community, who trying to help Forest live and is ungratefully sent to knees by them, have bigger fantasy!

- What about give us opportunity to show OUR Community ideas of future Endless Forest?

My genes predestined me to be a curmudgeon like my grandmother and great-grandmother and great-great-grandmother, my money remained successful in my pocket...

Oh fu...'s ro,
I'm so bad, bad person.

I agree with Shenere too.

Now I just hope M&A will not reject dialogue because "Good thing there's no chat in The Endless Forest." is not what we need, they, like us. All of us are asking for answers.

^^^^^

Not that I agree with M's views on the US election, or their tweets about gamers, or their passive aggressive methods on getting the word out there, but.. I don't really see how bringing up the first two helps us in any way other than to stir shit up. They're months-old tweets. The Sunset debacle is very old news and a lot of gamers already know about it.


They didn't pressure anyone to donate anything? Their concerns about the longevity of TEF is pretty legit. Who knows if TEF will still be able to work on operating systems beyond windows 10. It's an old game, it's not like they are threatening to close down TEF if they don't get the donations.


It's been stated MANY times before how the money will be used. And they also said that managing the campaign has taken time away from starting on the development of the new version. In any case, it's been shown that they are at least working on something that involves the forest, like the tin deer set.



Your opinion, I guess? They're actually trying to include some of the things that the community has wanted for a long time, such as grazing, fawn magic, and an extension of the map. Not only that, but people who've donated a certain amount will be able to send in any set piece they desire. Remember, this is their game, and they're allowed to add anything that fits their vision.

Honestly I think things are getting a little bit out of hand with some of the accusations. We're finally getting some attention for TEF after all of these years and now people are saying they're only in it for the money? Which could very well be true, but does it matter if we get a new game out of it? I don't know about you all, but I'm pretty excited to get some new things and have a game that isn't so buggy. They can't dedicate a year to the development of the forest with no money coming in, that's just a fact.

Not trying to silence anyone, of course, as people are allowed to say what they want, but I feel we're kind of beating a dead horse here.


yes pls.

AND just to add, we're still going to be able to donate even if we don't reach the Indigogo goals, so let's not like.. freak out about not reaching 40k (or even 28k) right away.

parrotsnpineapple,
Thanks for the note, either way. English is not my native lang, I get my bad moments.

Amary,
I should've put 'confront' instead of 'address' in my message, as I did not intend to overlook your efforts.
I admired you speaking your mind there in a level-headed way as you do.

Shenere,
The game engine is Unreal. Yes, it's free, but the time spent making a multiplayer game with it isn't.


And they expressed interest in collaborating with the players.
With the Forest Magician perk on IndieGoGo, you can make your own spell [antlers/mask/pelt] with the help of M&A to be included in the game.
If the campaign hits the 40k goal, we can expect people's designs [sets, actions, other features] added ingame later if it gets additional funding.
First things first, though, the technology behind the game needs a remake to make this all possible.
And to keep the game from becoming obsolete on the future systems, as alcinda pointed out.