IndieGogo extended until 27 December

Michael Samyn's picture


We have added some details about our plans for the extension of the campaign to the bottom of the Story page on IndieGogo (under the "EXTENDED" header).

The new end date is 27 December!

Update 1 (2 November)
Update 2 (15 November)
Update 3 (18 November): 3D prints!
Update 4 (21 November): new perks!
Update 5: Lina!
Update 6: Campaign extended to 27 December!
Update 7: tin deer WIP
Update 8: Sun Deer print

AHHH I'm so excited for this

AHHH I'm so excited for this omg
Chromai's picture

!!! I'M SCREAMING WE GET NEW

Exclaim!!!
I'M SCREAMING WE GET NEW AREAS??? Calm down chrem
Vessan's picture

Yes! Some lovely news to

Yes!

Some lovely news to cheer us up :3

No wonder my TEFc senses were

No wonder my TEFc senses were tingling! This is a great visual for future goals C:
tigerart27's picture

Oh man I'm super excited

Oh man I'm super excited
Hraeth's picture

while this is great and im

while this is great and im super excited to see the plans laid out with new content in mind, the price thresholds seem very high. i'm guessing this is for 'padding' and not necessarily required to remake the game on the new engine? especially since the original goal was 6,000 less than what's listed here. i'm a bit confused.
correcting myself here, i misread. 46k includes new content. still concerned about the below, however!

also, on the indiegogo page, it's stated that perks won't be implemented until 34,000 euros are raised. is that purely intended for the new engine, with the intention of releasing perks earlier in the current game as it is, or will we only see the perks in the new engine after we've raised 38k?
Tisority's picture

I'm so glad you guys decided

I'm so glad you guys decided to extend the campaign, though I admit I'm a tad bit discouraged that "fawn magic" is so far down the line for added features.. I hope we can get to 46k because I know that's something that a LOT of people definitely really want.
Gersemi's picture

LOOK HOW GORGEOUS THAT

LOOK HOW GORGEOUS THAT SUNDEER IS. Shocked
Starling's picture

Having a visual guide for

Having a visual guide for development is really nice. Personally it makes me want to work even harder to reach these goals. Smiling

!!

!!<3
Clare's picture

absolutely hoping we get to

absolutely hoping we get to 46.. ;_;
Freyja's picture

I'm super excited about that

I'm super excited about that Sadawaar and the turtles idea.....and new biomes is even better than new sets imo
Aivilo's picture

AAAAAAH Okay now that that's

AAAAAAH

Okay now that that's out of the way...

M&A - the images for two of the goals/phases are switched on the campaign page (The ones with turtles and grazing)
Draak's picture

Not gonna lie, kinda

Not gonna lie, kinda disappointed that the community site upgrade is waaaaay over there considering how many bugs it has :C
Starling's picture

Personally I'd much rather be

Personally I'd much rather be putting my money toward game updates than TEFc updates anyway.
These goals make me soooo excited. The 'Turtles'. <3
Laryal's picture

Sssssqqqqqqquuuuuuuueeeeeeeee

Sssssqqqqqqquuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeee. I can not wait to see this come out and thanks for extending the time.I wish i could give something towards making the goal but saddlily i can't. Sad
Laryal pic by EmiliaYO
alcinda's picture

What's 'magic safekeep'? Kind

What's 'magic safekeep'? Kind of hoping that doesn't mean set-saving, since 52k is quite a big goal for that. ;; Sob.

Okay I didn't see the descriptions for the things before, here's what the magic safekeep thing is if anyone else is confused:

Quote:
In Phase five a new visitor will appear in the grasslands. The Sadawaar (or Shadhavar) is a mythical animal with a horn through which the wind plays heavenly music. The deer will be able to entrust this noble creature with their favorite costume so they can frolic and experiment without worrying about losing their unique looks forever.


THOUGH I have another question - will we be able to keep our old pictograms (and their sets) for the remake, assuming we reach 40k+? Or do we all have to use new pictograms (gen 5)?
CydaLuva83's picture

TURTLES??!! I LOVE TURTLES

TURTLES??Exclaim!! I LOVE TURTLES I'M SO EXCITED (tho that picture is a tortoise)
BUT TURTLES!Exclaim!
Signature By Aihnna, Avatar by YaraMyst
Draak's picture

this is kind of going on with

this is kind of going on with what alcinda said but, the wording on the page has got me a bit confused. When everything starts rolling out with these new versions/phases, is the forest going to revert back to as if it were phase 1 (no sets just pictos etc) but revamped, and then go onto phase 2 and so on? Or is it just the First Forest that's going to be in "phase 1" mode?
Keepiru's picture

Oh gods. I have no idea of

Oh gods.

I have no idea of what is the best between the new actions, the valley, the sadawaar, turtles or...

Michael Samyn's picture

If we remake the game, we

If we remake the game, we should not waste our precious time on implementing new features in the old engine, should we? We should devote all of our energy to the new engine!

The perk sets can logically only be implemented in the remake once the logic that supports Forest Magic is implemented. And that's a Phase Two feature.

But I don't think we need to worry. We will get there! Either via IndieGogo or later.
Michael Samyn's picture

I have corrected the images,

I have corrected the images, Aivilo. Good catch! Thanks.
WayfarerHart's picture

I doubt we'll be able to

I doubt we'll be able to raise the amounts needed by the end of the campaign, but hopefully, when Patreon is later established, we'll be able to raise the amounts eventually! Can only hope.

Michael Samyn's picture

Yes, the old pictograms and

Yes, the old pictograms and sets will be used in the new game. We hope to transition from one engine to the other smoothly.
Michael Samyn's picture

My preference is to release

My preference is to release the remake of the current game (so Phase Three) and perhaps use the other phases for beta-testing. But if we cannot raise the required money on IndieGogo, I want develop in phases. If all goes well, the remainder will be collected while we are working and we will release the full game as planned. If we would not be able to collect the remainder, then at least we will have Phase One, which is better than nothing at all, in my opinion, and a basis to figure out an alternative way to remake the rest (which might just be taking more time while we fund it ourselves).
Michael Samyn's picture

Indeed: Tortoises, not

Indeed: Tortoises, not Turtles!
Verdalas's picture

I'm glad to see how the

I'm glad to see how the spending is going to be done and I hope we reach a bigger target before the end of the campaign.

The new area sounds amazing. The perfect place to sunbathe in summer!

I`m very much looking forward

I`m very much looking forward to see a blue sky in the forest.
BloomingSkull's picture

I really don't want to be

I really don't want to be negative, but how did we go from 40.000€ includes the whole remake and more to at least 52.000€ is needed for what was promised for the 40.000€ mark.

I mean, if you donated 500€, from what I am reading, you will only get your set design perk if the campaign now reaches 52.000€?

I just don't think that that is quite fair and is not what was promised when the funding started.
Evern's picture

BloomingSkull, we will be

BloomingSkull, we will be able to collect as much as possible in the coming month and then the rest of the funds will be collected (through pateron or however else) as the remake continues in phases and new things are added bit by bit. I hate to be confrontational but negativity will not help encourage people that the goal is reachacble.

I am VERY excited this was

I am VERY excited this was extended!Exclaim!!Exclaim!!Exclaim!!
I have had a job for three weeks and I REALLY want to donate but I haven't even gotten my first paycheck yet Sad
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BloomingSkull, a remake was

BloomingSkull, a remake was promised for 40k. If 40k is collected, a full remake will be done. Extra content will come along extra money.
E: I'm sorry. Perkwise you're quite correct. Though it is in the rules of Indiegogo, that something applicable has to be given, should the goal not be reached if the campaign has a flexible goal.

Over fifty thousand? We'll make it. We'll have to! <insert struggling hero here>

BloomingSkull, Claimed perks

BloomingSkull,

Claimed perks are not subject to change.

52,000: Phase Five wrote:
In this phase we will also add a number of new deer sets selected from designs created by the community.

This one has nothing to do with Forest Magicians, as it's been something they planned to do for a while: add more user content into the game.
This part means anyone from the community will get a chance to propose a design and have it made real by the devs.


40,000: Phase Three wrote:
Many more deer costumes will be added to celebrate Carnival and Mardi Gras.

^And this is what you were looking for. It's been a tradition to introduce new magic on Mardi Gras.

If we can get enough to at

If we can get enough to at least remake the game as it is but with a new engine, that would be amazing by itself.
But I'm really excited for the possibility of new content! Especially a new area! I have actually had dreams about coming back here and finding something completely new added.
Michael Samyn's picture

We will implement the

We will implement the IndieGogo perks in the remake of the game, don't worry.
The separation in phases is symbolic to some degree, to encourage contributions.
The goal is to remake the entire game. And when we do, the perks will be included. Even if we don't get to expand the game yet.

Quote:The separation in

Quote:
The separation in phases is symbolic to some degree, to encourage contributions.

Doesn't deliberately delaying functions needlessly slow down production...?

I don't see the technical advantage to separating the first and birch forest when it's presumable all already put together.
I suspect doing so wouldn't encourage donations more than seeing new content either.
I might be missing something though, if so, forgive me.
SS's picture

Wow! What a great idea. I

Wow! What a great idea.
I think there will be more and more new players. Simply class. Keep it up!

Qanat's picture

Very belatedly seconding J!n

Very belatedly seconding J!n and adding that while I don't speak for anyone but myself, I find the goals prior to 40k a little discouraging. WHICH IS the opposite of what others have said but

The impression I got was we were getting a full remake of the game, not a remake of the phases? Everything that's been done has been done, as in the forest is what it is now. I never thought it was a 3 part-er or a trilogy or something like that, but more that patches, dlc, updates to the game have been made and TEF in the third phase is what it's meant to be. As in finished.
So it's confusing to see the first, incomplete portion of the game have money thrown into it instead of the current game, all in one go?
I haven't seen any modern game remakes go back and create previous patches and while I understand that we're building system from the ground up, I can't imagine why it wouldn't make more sense to instantly work on implementing the fawns, the spells, ect when you now know that's what the forest is. It's almost as if we're going back and remaking the unfinished version of TEF unnecessarily when what it is now, is the complete game.
Excitement stems from the prospect of a remake and additions, but if the game is being split up in phases and we're seeing 23k when we check donations, the thought of getting to 28k for what comes off as a beta version of the end forest doesn't seem like a lot of incentive to go scrabbling at our wallet. Especially when we'll need 40k to get to a point where we get our perks and to play the game we love now, regardless.
The previous two steps seem like an obstacle. I hope that doesn't sound harsh!

Pretty much I agree in thinking it would make more sense to just remake it all in one go, and too feel like it's unnecessary to split a game that was made complete over a few years into different parts when it's remade.

And I'd also love if it could be cleared up because I too might me missing something here.

I have been under the

I have been under the impression that the 40K was for a remake of the game as it is now. Graphic updates, performance updates, server updates, that sort of thing. I never even expected anything extra. If anything, the extras that will come with more money makes me far more inclined to donate and makes me excited for the game's future.
Michael Samyn's picture

With 40k we could remake the

With 40k we could remake the entire game plus implement the assets and logic for the IndieGogo perks (which are really fun additions in my opinion). So something would be added. Maybe some extra tweaks would be feasible too (like grazing and adult fawns keeping their Magic).

But if we close under 40k, we will have to be very rational and build the essentials first and see how far we get.
BrownLupine's picture

Really glad to see that you

Really glad to see that you made it this far. But please please please add grazing somewhere among the 40k goals. People wanted this for years and you are more likely to reach the needed 40k.


What nature divides, the spirit unites.

Starling's picture

I can't believe how much

I can't believe how much they've slowed down. :< I shared the news to a couple places but we really need someone with a bigger name in order for it to be any use, sigh.
Aivilo's picture

^Same Didn't think we'd sit

^Same
Didn't think we'd sit at the same number for days on end. Not sure where else to advertise at this point, personally; I don't carry much weight in most forums.

Has anyone tried hitting up the Meadow and NIVA crowds? I'm not sure if those games have forums anywhere, but the people who enjoyed them might also enjoy TEF.

The forum for Meadow on Steam

The forum for Meadow on Steam is here.
idk about the other one, never heard of it
Draak's picture

I lurk in the Meadow Steam

I lurk in the Meadow Steam forums and yeah someone tried, but it got deleted cos it didn't have anything to do with Meadow.
Aivilo's picture

Just a bump. A little over 2

Just a bump.
A little over 2 weeks left.

If the 551 current backers gave another €30, we'd hit the goal.
If they gave another €10, we'd at least secure Phase One.

It's a lot closer than it looks, guys! Keep spreading the word.
Michael Samyn's picture

I'll ask the Meadow guys.

I'll ask the Meadow guys. We've emailed wit them.

Thatgamecompany (Journey) have tweeted about it already.

Michaël Samyn wrote:I'll ask

Michaël Samyn wrote:
I'll ask the Meadow guys. We've emailed with them.

Any update?

It'd be rad of them to pay homage to TEF by announcement or something better:
They could make a special call/emote/action/animal and make it available ingame to those Meadowers who donated a certain amount to TEF,
if not to this campaign, then the upcoming paypal fundraiser.
That's what I'd do if I were in their place, why not.
Keepiru's picture

Uitleger wrote: It'd be rad

Uitleger wrote:
It'd be rad of them to pay homage to TEF

Why?

Since when Might and Delight is related to Tale of Tales (like Thatgamecompany)?
Did I miss something?

Do they gotta be? M&D are

Do they gotta be?
M&D are cashing in on the same genre: peaceful animal interaction multiplayer, which was discovered and tried by ToT 10 years ago.