youtube channel for the endless forest?

imagine someone on youtube seeing someone play a game about deer in a forest and they hear all these great things about the game and then they download the game and they get to be the deer that person wants to be (once there a adult deer that is)



well what if someone made a youtube channel for the endless forest that tells people about the game or does gameplay videos about the endless forest who think that's a good idea?
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Unfortunately, I think that’s

Unfortunately, I think that’s not a really good idea :/ don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE to make more people love this game and support it, but I was curious and decided to watch a few gameplay videos of tef and didn’t like at all what I saw. The people are basically making fun of this game and the people who play it, it’s horrible. Also, a lot of them think the game is creepy and pointless (I’ve heard that even from my own friends) and it just kinda makes me worried that making a video about it would draw more negative attention to the game and community itself. Then again, this is just my opinion. I feel like people outside the community generally don't really like these types of games and would rather spend money on something else. Idk tho, I wanna hear what others think.
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i didn't even know it was

i didn't even know it was that bad ok i didn't know i just wanted to help ok i just thought with the game being remade it would help bring more people in the game im really sorry about making this blog i hope people understand what im trying to say Sad and i wanna hear there thought too on this but i didn't know it got so bad with all the hate


and I just saw the comments on youtube and it hurts to see people be like oh this is a dumb game im not gonna play it, what do you do in this game?


is that kinda what you ment by the hate? I wish they said something positive about it like when the remake comes out like oh the animation is so smooth and there different areas and stuff like that

and yes I agree with you but people need to see the comments on youtube about the game like this needs to stop.
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It's all okay, you don't need

It's all okay, you don't need to apologize Smiling you didn't know, know you do. It's all good. As I said, this is just what I've noticed, it doesn't mean that it really would bring negative attention. And don't feel bad about making the blog, we are here to talk and learn from others.
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and for people who just

and for people who just registered they had to do a fundraiser to remake the entire game so that's gonna be cool to see when its done but please don't hate on this game anymore i like this game its really fun sure it might get boring but don't rant on how bad the game is and you might come back to this game and community and just see how fun it will be when there done remaking the game( its probably gonna take this summer or next year to finish remaking the game)
Sybilline's picture

Yeah, that's exactly what I

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. It's sad and it hurts me too. I also saw some people playing the game just to troll others.. it's so rude and immature. I mean, they don't have to love this game but they shouldn't attack and laugh at the people who do play it :/ it sucks.
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Draak's picture

I have to agree with

I have to agree with DazzleFlash too, while this idea has good intentions the internet seems to say otherwise about TEF. A large majority of people just think it's "that weird creepy game with deer with human faces".

TEF is also considered an "art" game, and people also don't seem to understand that games don't always have to have a point or a goal.

Also there's the risk of trolls given TEF being what it is. (Also TEF isn't really Moderated like other games so it's harder to deal with them)
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^ Exactly. Whenever I try

^ Exactly.
Whenever I try telling others about TEF, they are like “oh it’s stupid and creepy, and has no goal or point”. With all those modern games out there that we have nowadays, it’s really hard finding someone to like TEF. People have the right not to like something, but hating it to that point to go and troll someone in game is beyond rude. Thankfully, I think it doesn’t happen as much anymore, but still I wouldn’t risk presenting it to public by making a video about it. I just love the whole atmosphere this community has, and I think it’s better to take small steps towards reaching our goal. We have waited so long for this remake, we can wait a bit longer too.
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yeah tell them about this

yeah tell them about this community website and let them see the pictures you guys make and bios of your deer so that way they understand better about the game







Horselover - this game and

Horselover - this game and similar types of fantasy art isn't well-liked by the great majority. The younger ones, perhaps. There are many furries here, and those who like the art without being part of that fandom. But those that are outside that faded circle tend to not understand why we love what we love. They think we just haven't grown up and are too immature to talk to. They think we are insane for loving this sort of thing. We can't force it on others.

Also, I feel the community is plenty big enough and we still get more people continuously without all the advertising. if we get too many, even with the new game engine, the game will severely lag and possibly start crashing. It's hard enough to be on during the rut every September-October.

oh yeah sorry also I have

oh yeah sorry also I have never been in a rut before im only a fawn in the game

Yeah, stick around for a

Yeah, stick around for a while. It's already a very active game. I've been here on and off for 6 years. End of the year gets especially busy, it's hard to connect at all let alone move around any. XD
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Yeah, TEF is a 10+ year old

Yeah, TEF is a 10+ year old game that hasn't had it's software/hardware updated in a billion years. When the online playercount exceeds 80 the game will lag and eventually crash. This is also the reason why they stopped doing Abios; youd get well over 100 players and the server would cry.
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Gee guys lol. A traditional

Gee guys lol.
A traditional gameplay style would not work for tef, that's to admit.
BUUUUUT
I think it would be an interesting thing if it's not really shown as a talking/playing but more as having a scenic 'camera' character wander around tef and record the happenings in the forest or any interesting weather/time changes or if an abio randomly pops up sometime in the future.
It would probably need a pedantic player though to tastefully capture it.

It's a game where you enjoy the athmosphere, music and relax, that's how it should be presented as.

There are plenty of people that like those 'relax' videos with rain, crickets, or whatever more obscure noise people find pleasing. And sometimes some people open tef just for the ambient noise it makes.

It would work. Just gotta show tef as it is, not what some people or the outside majority want it to be.
It's an ambient experience, not yer traditional game.

^^^ This. I want this to

^^^ This.
I want this to happen that you can move your camera and make some adventrues around the forest
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There was a blog a few years

There was a blog a few years ago showing how to put the forest camera in 1st person mode, so you would see from the pov of your avatar. Lots of cool screenshots came out of it, but I don't remember who made the thread.

e: found the instructions
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"Open your TEF folder > Engine > UserInput > Add a '0' onto the end of 'UserInputForFollowCam'
Your TEF has to be closed while you do this for it to take effect. If you wanna go back to third person, close TEF and just remove the '0' from the end of 'UserInputForFollowCam'"
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Vessan's picture

With the glitch + reshade J!n

With the glitch + reshade J!n presented it would be easy to make some stunning videos.

Also:

http://endlessforest.org/community/new-perspective-0
http://www.endlessforest.org/community/reshade
Draak's picture

I guess doing it that way

I guess doing it that way could work, it would look less "creepy human faced deer game"

It's hard to shake said apprehensiveness when a negative reaction is all you see when TEF is mentioned anywhere else.
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Honestly if you search the

Honestly if you search the endless forest on youtube only a few negative videos come up. It can be enjoyed if presented in a certain way, showing the parts of the forest we love the most, not just a human faced deer. eue



Anyone remember these by Shimmy? 80 likes, 2 dislikes, 9,602 views. Not bad at all!

e: oh and this one has 34,175 views and only 11 dislikes. Some of the comments are negative but some are neutral and a lot are open minded.

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^^^ omfg I loved Shimmy's

^^^ omfg I loved Shimmy's videos. Hijo de la Luna was by far one of the best
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I just saw that yesterday

I just saw that yesterday that was hilarious share this with your friends also good morning everyone
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Amazing timing there in the

Amazing timing there in the vid haha.

But seriously guys, being so pedantically overconcerned about negative comments is not healthy.
This literally happens in every game and community and it happens far far worse than the negative comments tef gets.

If it helps introduce new people, more power to us. Even if for each new member there are 100 negative voices. That 1 adition is worth it. The nagativity from people will go as time passes, people forget and move on since it's only momentary. But with that one person joining you may end up with a lifetime friend. I pretty much stand with horselover on this.

It's also very hard to troll in TEF, but it's very easy for people to do stupid/silly things that can be shared despite of it being a 'creepy' game.
Why not do a creepy video haha.



Personally i'd love artistic, ambient videos haha.

oh boy my late two cents..

oh boy my late two cents.. but gonna be agreeing with the later comments since Youtube videos of TEF (like the Twin Dancers videos) is actually what introduced me to TEF all those years ago and got me playing it. There’s the good and bad in everything. If you’re looking for the negative, sure you’ll find it. But just because there’s some negative doesnt ruin the entire idea of TEF on YouTube.

Edit: woops mobile made me

Edit: woops mobile made me double post :c

well thanks for agreeing with

well thanks for agreeing with me on that that was very nice of you to say that

and just call me horse ok?

and just call me horse ok? its ok if you say horselover but I just prefer horse
Vessan's picture

Sure thing.

Sure thing.

oh and tell your friends to

oh and tell your friends to watch some of the endless forest videos like the anything you can do videos and other ones too (even on discord if you have one) it will show them the game isn't so bad
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The thing is, I don't think

The thing is, I don't think any of us actually care about the negative comments and reviews TEF receives.

Some people tried the game, but they still didn't like it because it's not their kind of game. You have to understand that you cannot convince everybody.

I don't understand what you are trying to achieve by asking us to spread the word about TEF. As said in one of your posts, we don't really need new members since we're already a big community, but we welcome them if they decide to join. The game is already enough laggy as it is during the Rut and even anytime (especially in the evening (Europe time)) so it's actually a good thing that the community isn't bigger than today.

Now, I get from the way you speak/write and from the lack of ponctuation in your sentences that you are a kid, and even though I promised myself I would stay away from children (don't ask me why, I just can't stand them), I'm still gonna comment and tell you this, in hope that you will understand:

We don't care about what others think of TEF. Nothing is liked by everybody, there will always be people to not like the game, no matter how hard you try. Spreading the word among people who have previously claimed to not like the game won't change anything. I have friends who did not understand the point of the game or never liked it and I never was able to convince them otherwise.

The only thing we can do is to stop caring about what others think, because listening to them will just hurt us even more.

It's not because you enjoy that game that others must as well. There will always be people to dislike or even hate what you like/love. That's how life is. It sucks, yes, but sadly you can't do anything about it because everybody has their own tastes/likings, their own vision of things, their own mentality etc... And you cannot force or always convince people to like or to stop hating on something you love. So you should stop trying and thinking about it, you're just gonna hurt yourself in the process.

Just enjoy the game and play with the people who actually like it.

EDIT: I just wanna point out that I should have stayed away from this thread (for the reason mentioned above) but it still hurts me to see someone pointlessly trying to fight for something that they love but doesn't need be fought for, no matter their age, as they can get hurt because of that. I just felt the need to get it off my chest, my apology.
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I do agree what Heartclock

I do agree what Heartclock wrote.
I mean, it's.. pointless and is not getting anywhere if we try to get someone who doesn't like this game or don't want to play it to get them to play it.
Even i have friends who don't wanna play it, because they see it weird game and i have tried to my best to make them like it and to make them understand this game meaning,
but without any results and i kinda respect that if they don't wanna play it and i don't wanna push them to play it if they don't want to.
It's good to see tho that someone really want to share this beautiful and magical game with the whole internet and would do anything that everyone would play it,
but as it's mentioned, this is already quite big community and there is quite a lot of days when game reaches 50 - 70 players in the game which makes it lag a lot and it may be hard to play for someone to play.

Tho, there is a lot of videos about The Endless Forest in Youtube and artists who draw about this game and share with everyone, so i may tell you that there is peoples who share this game already around the internet and we will see who want to join to play this game and see the interest about this game.

(My comment may be pontless so forgive me I may have skipped the main topic, but wanted to say this out, blehh
Also, if someone get my mesage wrong; this is not a negative comment, this is my opinion and i'm sorry if it sounds more than "a nice comment/own opinion", heh.)
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I believe we dont need more

I believe we dont need more videos to gain more players. We gain players even without videos, and there are always returning players too! People who are meant to play this game typically find it on their own. I definitely agree with Heartclock and Hautakumpu as well, this is just my take on it.

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I think your intentions and

I think your intentions and love for this place is wonderful, but now is just not the time to promote TEF. This place is in transition; the servers and the game itself are getting ready to undergo much needed updates and maintenence. I also believe people who seek this style of gameplay will find us. Smiling It’s sweet of you though, thank you. <3
On a separate note, just ignore the mean YouTube comments. The game is just not their cup of tea and that’s okay. Also, don’t be sorry for posting your thoughts! The whole point of this community site is to be able to interact with each other, so don’t feel like you can’t talk to us.

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Now, I get from the way you speak/write and from the lack of ponctuation in your sentences that you are a kid, and even though I promised myself I would stay away from children (don't ask me why, I just can't stand them)

This was completely unnecessary to get your point across.
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Ravyn wrote:This was

Ravyn wrote:
This was completely unnecessary to get your point across.

I was just trying to explain why I should have stayed away from this thread. Which is why it would be best for me to stop commenting on those posts now.
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Evern's picture

I say make videos if you

I say make videos if you want, maybe we don't need them to spread the word or to get more people interested... I also don't think that many new members are nessecary, and as Ravynn very well said we are in a transition so promotion isn't the best right now. But I don't see the point in trying to stop some people making a few videos of TEF, even if it is meant for promotion. This is a harmless project. I'd love to film and edit some videos of TEF, in the Shimmy style, just for the sheer love of the game and the art. Isn't that why we're here?

Cyda and Laur, I love them too! They also helped me get into TEF.

Personally i'd love artistic, ambient videos haha.

Sounds amazing tbh.

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Okay, so even if someone

Okay, so even if someone does make a video not in a traditional way but rather in a way that shows the artistic side of tef, that still doesn't change the fact that the majority will think it's creepy and pointless. The biggest two problems of this game are exactly those two things. People see human-faced deer and they creep out, and even if there weren't human-faced deer, the lack of a goal is a serious problem. Making a fancy video wouldn't make any difference because some people will never be able to see the beauty of this game, and the ones who are meant to see it will like it even if they see a traditional gameplay video. They won't care that it has human-faced deer or whatever. Speaking of trolling, I'll just put this here. Trolls can be incredibly persistent because many of them have no life and therefore nothing better to do. As a member of another community (I won't sat which one) I see trolls who literally spend months trolling people, and since the site administrators aren't really doing their job, the site gets filled with idiotic comments. And it's always the same people who are trolling (apparently someone's life can really be that boring). It wasn't like that a few years ago while the community was still small and more tight-knit. I am well aware that my point of view sounds pessimistic, but I am just being real and speaking from my experience.
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HeartClock, I understand.

HeartClock,
I understand. Just keep in mind that the game and community site is for everyone of all ages. This is Horse’s first day here, so there’s a lot to explore and learn. Although the game is old, the magic is still there, and everything is new and exciting for them. The last thing we want to do is make new members feel unwelcome/discriminated.

Horse,
Here’s a directory you might wanna check out. Some links are outdated, but most of it’s still there.
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No worries, Ravyn. Someone

No worries, Ravyn. Someone explained me things on Discord.

I did not mean to be aggressive or to be cold. But I never said that the game and the community site were not for children, I was just saying that I am bad with children and that is why I should have not got involved in this discussion.

Though I can't delete my comment or edit it anymore because of that glitch where the "edit" button disappears for no reason.
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Aivilo's picture

HeartClock wrote:Though I

HeartClock wrote:
Though I can't delete my comment or edit it anymore because of that glitch where the "edit" button disappears for no reason.


It disappears when someone clicks the "reply" button on a post rather than adding a new comment from the top.

I am not used to using

I am not used to using grammar like you guys are using right now. But I am trying my best at it so please respect that. I will try to use grammar more often so you wont worry about it. And heart I like your avatar picture its really nice Smiling


so um how was that for grammar. Because I wanna see how I did. Also I just had my birthday in April but I am not allowed to say how old I am in games or websites like this because of privacy.


Also that link just takes me back to the page where it says tef is funded.
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Hey no worries about grammar!

Hey no worries about grammar! A lot of us don't speak english as our first language, so we're all pretty understanding! That was excellent, no worries

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i do speak English but i am

i do speak English but i am in the united states and thanks for telling me my grammar is good but im still trying to practice it.
Aivilo's picture

Horse wrote:Also that link

Horse wrote:
Also that link just takes me back to the page where it says tef is funded.

I'm guessing she meant to link here.

You can also find lots of information here.

That is much better thanks.

That is much better thanks.



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Don't worry about your

Don't worry about your grammar! Like tossercook said, a lot of us don't speak English as our first language, so we have no problem with yours. You don't have to do the good/bad grammar thing if you really don't want to. We aren't complaining about it, just trying to help you Sticking out tongue Your grammar is very good, by the way!

I actually found out about TEF through a video that someone did, though I can't remember which, but it definitely was just someone showing their deer playing with others. I was around 10 at the time and was looking for another game to play. Youtube videos can have a good or bad influence on the community and the people who watch them, but recently (in the last few years) a lot of them have been bad - again, like many users have said above me, some people just find the thought of running around as a human-faced deer to be creepy.
I have been playing this game for 8 years now and it still hasn't lost it's magic for me, though.
A youtube channel would be neat, but only for special things like Abiogenesis, where the people who made the game come on and make special effects like fireworks, weather and stuff. They haven't done that in a while because so many people come on to see it and make the game's server run really slow. There's tons of videos like that already though :}

I'm sure that when the game updates and gets a better server for everyone to play on, there will be videos showing what the game looks like and how to play it. More players, too!

Aivilo, Thanks for correcting

Aivilo,
Thanks for correcting the link. I was mobile.

mabey they will add a

mabey they will add a tutorial for the game and if you search the game up on Wikipedia it says something about your mother will walk you though the beginning of the game and you will grow or something like that so I hope that will be included in the remake( please make this happen)