Vent/Rant Blog so people can let off steam posting on here and keep the other blogs positive!! =)

Kutanra's picture


Everyone needs a shoulder to cry on sometimes...

Hello Everyone. I am making this blog after seeing someone get a little upset and worried that they are bothering others posting their problems so I am going to leave this blog up So that if anyone wants to write it out to ask for help or just get it off their chest I don't mind. I shall check it almost daily. Don't worry, you can say what you want here, although I do have some small requests:
*Please try to keep profanity to a minimum, if you must then use stars.
*I want this to be a place for people to let out their fustration, if someone on this site has upset you I don't mind you saying so but please do not say anything too bad about them
*No homophobic or racist comments please

Thank you and be strong.

~Kutanra the Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...
Chickenwhite's picture

I support this blog! >w<

I support this blog! >w< People should be able to vent and not piss off others TwT
shamiya's picture

Maybe not something to really

Maybe not something to really rant about, but it's been on my mind and wasn't worth making an entire blog entry about.

I wish I was good enough at art to make fanart of my friends characters. I mean, I could do some standard poses, but they wouldn't ever be that great, and chances are all the fanart I did would come out looking the same pose-wise because I suck too much to be able to do anything else. I can't seem to grasp the anatomy of unique poses; I've tried, for years. The saying "practice practice practice" doesn't seem to apply to me. ;-;
Zergarikiaka's picture

There's so much I need to

There's so much I need to rant about, mainly involving my real life.

The top five issues:
5.) My Keyboard. It fails.

4.) Time contstaints. I don't have much personal time.

3.) People. In person, so many are jerks. Some I just want to do physical harm to.

2.) My Job. I hate it with a burning passion of a thousand suns. It is abusive, demanding more work than it's worth, and giving more stress than the body can take.

1.) Stress in General: I'm pulled constantly now between a job, an internship, college, family, and the chronic lack of sleep. There is no fun in my life right now aside from TEF to vent out my stress and rage into.
Chickenwhite's picture

Hey, Shamiya, I've actually

Hey, Shamiya, I've actually got a tip that might help you out >w<
...
Well, I can't help low self-esteem, unfortunately T_T;; But the tip! >w<
Reference is your friend. Your best friend, actually, no matter which level of artistic prowess you're at >w< Find some good pictures of deer in action, leaping, frolicking, just... being deer and copy those poses as best as you can >w<
I used to do this all the time (with horses, though) and it actually still helps me come up with poses and whatnot for my drawings >w<
Hope this helps TwT;;

I don't see your problem, though, your art is gorgeous! O.o
Pegasicorn's picture

@Zerg: Perhaps Dark and Bast

@Zerg: Perhaps Dark and Bast could spar again sometime so you can take out your stress a bit?
Sypris's picture

That picture is so cute.

That picture is so cute. ♥
Kutanra's picture

Shamiya: I have exactly the

Shamiya: I have exactly the same problem, I'm not even as good as you. I can draw as well as a talented 7 year old. I can do a fairly okayish picture mushing real images together but when it comes to making it myself I am rubbish, I wanted to make one for my signature but I'm not that good.

One thing which I find really helps is to trace a drawing you want to base your picture on then keep tracing or drawing your picture and you will soon get the basic thing with some of your own style Smiling
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

shamiya's picture

Most everything I do is

Most everything I do is referenced. I've tried following lineart and coloring tutorials too(in hopes that some of my work looks better, as I mostly sketch), and I still fail miserably. I have no idea how people get those smooth, excellent lines(Mine come out squiggly and stuff). I have no concept of shadows and proper shading either! - I think in my head I picture myself producing jaw-dropping pieces, so maybe my art isn't all that bad? It looks bad to me, but if it isn't to some, all I can say is it's not up to standard with what I want to produce. If that makes sense? - Also as I said, even if I reference for some reason I can only draw certain poses, anything different/unique looks disproportionate and funky.

As for tracing images I have always been so skeptical of doing that... because you may show people just to show how you've progressed or whatever(say with lines), and you'll have those people that jump down your throat about tracing and how it's wrong, and how you've violated copyrights and stuff(lol). I've seen it happen too many times to even consider tracing photos.

Thanks for the advice guys. <3
Kutanra's picture

I know, I never claim work

I know, I never claim work which isn't mine, if I make something and I show people I will always tell them where I found the picture. With the lines I think it a case of making your picture then when you are done get another sheet of paper and just follow the lines carefully, possibly with a fineliner felt tip? I would love to see some of your work but I'm going to bed now, it is 11pm where I am. I'll be on tomorrow, meanwhile you guys keep supporting each other for me Smiling

Night everyone
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

Chickenwhite's picture

I agree on the tracing-part,

I agree on the tracing-part, but two things can be done to avoid public disgrace >w<
1: Tell the people the source, take it from a public place, like google or a material-blog and simply tell people you traced/referenced from that piece... Easiest thing to do is to use a real-life photo, that way you won't step on anyone's toes and you'll get practice adapting real-life poses to your personal style >w<
2: make practice-pieces and keep those to yourself, for your own pleasure >w<

And it seems to me, the thing you need is confidence in your own style. Believe me, your style and drawings are good, you just gotta... well, accept your style for what it is >w<
I know that's what I did when I had that problem and strangely, after I'd accepted that I draw like I draw, I improved and evolved so much >w<

After all, drawing is all about having fun, right? ^w^
Verycrazygirl's picture

I don't like it when people

I don't like it when people go to see one particular deer then ignore some/all of the company that deer is in.
And I'm not saying this for myself, though I do dislike it when someone goes to meet someone in my company then ignore me/or pay little attention to me.
But I also dislike it when someone comes to meet me and ignore the people/person I'm with.
It's pretty rude and it can hurt people, you know.

SentrySeb's picture

What I want to vent,

What I want to vent, personally:

-My limited art style. I can draw wolves, cats, antlers, but that's about it. Oh, and human profiles. Honestly, it's easy to draw any way you want, but you have to know what angle you want. Sticking out tongue

-Not being happy with my art, and getting sick of trying. People draw for HOURS and I can barley draw 10 minutes without saying 'screw this, I hate it' >> I really need to learn how to not be sop impatient with myself. :C

That's about it. Also, I HATEEEE cramps and the like. >>





Kutanra's picture

SentrySeb: My art style is

SentrySeb: My art style is also limited, I can doodle eyes and roses, what I wanna do is manga animals but alas I am unable

Rather than try to do one huge amount of drawing, take breaks when you get frustrated and come back later. After all you aren’t a Sim Smiling

Verycrazygirl: Hmm, that CAN be kinda of annoying, I usually try to bow to many deer and often do things such as dancing we can all join in, unfortunately I sometimes find myself more drawn to the more colourful/responsive deer when in very large groups; sometimes you cant help it :/
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

Just to point something out

Just to point something out Sentry and Kutanra, things like eyes and animals aren't style, they're content. Style is the way an artist renders, not what they draw. Things like realism or cartoon are styles of art. My advice to you two would be to experiment and practice, it takes some artists years to develop a style they feel comfortable with and many artists have several styles they use. For now, just experiment and you'll find something that works for you.
SentrySeb's picture

I do take break and stuff,I

I do take break and stuff,I normally doodle, unless I really want something. ;P


Thank guys! <333





Kutanra's picture

It's nice to know this blog

It's nice to know this blog helps people, if any of your friends seem like they need to let of some steam, send them this way, remeber you can rant about anything, from something as deep ashating your fathers guts, mourning your grandma to the smallest thing like being annoyed at loosing your favourite socks
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

Small vent:: Why is it the

Small vent::

Why is it the ones who mean so much to us and those around us step off this mortal coil before us. Why must bad people live so long and those who are pure be taken.

On site vent:, Why are perticular players so up their own bums in role play they wont even bow to other deer. Get real people good manners take a second and cost squat!


Cough... Thanks for the blogg
Kutanra's picture

No problem, with the ingame

No problem, with the ingame rant, some people just are, ignore them and walk away

the other rant, I dont know why, we had a lot of rabbits, one was nasty, all the rest were real friendly, the nasty one ended up outliving all but one of the nice ones, who had to be put down coz of illness

but remember, we musnt spend all our time grieving over our loss, more celebrating what we had.

I used to be in a friend triangle. we always said we would go up the eiffel tower and yell viva la england! one of them got cancer, when he died my other friend moped around wanting him back and she felt like he had left completely. That summer I went to france, went up the eiffel tower and yelled viva la england! it felt like he was stood by me, shouting along. I've always felt like he's been there when Ive done stuff he wanted to do. I live for him as well as myself now. You should too.
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

shamiya's picture

I hate that people don't seem

I hate that people don't seem to know how to keep OOC and IC matters separate.
Kutanra's picture

I think I've worked out that

I think I've worked out that OOC and IC means out of character and in character

hmmm, I guess, tbh I try to keep a happy medium Smiling

to me, anything that a deer does in the actual game is all roleplay no matter how 'mean' they may be.
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

Pegasicorn's picture

MOTHER-*BEEP* SPLIT-SECOND

MOTHER-*BEEP* SPLIT-SECOND POWER FAILURE KILLING MY COMPUTER. *currently on her dad's slower laptop* I want my files, damn it.
bigcrow's picture

This is actually a pretty

This is actually a pretty neat thing Smiling A specific place for rantin', hehehe! Thanks for making it x)

I haven't had internet connection for nearly 2 weeks- very sparsely, when I did- and now that I do, I still can't connect to the game Frown I managed to for a few seconds last night, and Sionnach is a stag now! O_O I barely got to play with him as a fawn, I missed it all because of my bloody connection. *rawrawrawr* And this is a minor complaint compared to all the stuff I had to get done that I had to postpone or just flat out couldn't get done! Yay, being stuck at school til 8 pm to get your final paper done >.O

x.x i hate connection

x.x i hate connection problems but for the missing fawn hood thing there is always play as fawn option ^-^

>.< i hate that i'm not good at drawing, writing or css.so i just kind of suck in general xD
but yea >:3 i'm going to continue at least trying even if i'm just having millions of brain farts.
Kutanra's picture

dont worry, I have no special

dont worry, I have no special talents that I am aware of either except for bein able to comfort ppl and incredible common sense. hence why I made this Smiling
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

kovah's picture

Just for anyone struggling

Just for anyone struggling with art:

You will not improve if you do not practice, you spent years learning to read its the same with drawing you will not simply become good at it overnight but you probably didnt rage quit learning to read. Give yourself a challenge like drawing one deer every day for a month, you will be astounded at how much you have improved when the month is over and you look back at it. It wont feel like you are improving at first but you will be and that will be evident by the end even if you only spend twenty minutes on a picture. It also shows that you can stick something out (which schools and employers like to see XD )

Tracing is also just about the WORST thing you can do to 'improve' your art, plus the copyright considerations. Photos are give the same protection as art and not all photographers will like you tracing their photos. If you use a reference its best to go to somewhere like Deviantart and type 'stock deer' in the search, each artist will have their own rules but are generally ok with you using the images for reference purposes.

To learn to draw an animal get pictures of its skeleton and draw that, then the muscles and finally the thing itself. If you dont understand what makes it work (even if its a basic knowledge) how are you supposed to do different things with it. You have to walk before you can run Eye
As for the 'OMG I HATE IT' believe me it happens to everyone its happen to me twice today but giving up and trashing it will get you nowhere, if you reach that point you put the picture down go have a ten minute break then come back to it and ask yourself 'what is wrong' then 'how do I fix it' and if fixing it means rubbing out half the deer then thats what you have to do.
SentrySeb's picture

Kovah: I know you were

Kovah:

I know you were trying to be helpful, but that just came out as... rude. Really, really rude.

You don't know if I draw daily, or if I do anything you suggest. I KNOW it's a suggestion, but it aint the only one that counts. Please stop acting like it does. I don't 'ragequit' as you rudely put it. No one here does, as far as I know. I am 13. I can draw eyes that have professionals scratching their heads in wonder. Do NOT act like I can't draw anything. As for tracing;

My friend traces, and guess what> She hasn't gotten one 'OMGTRACEING!' issue. My art teacher says it a great way to learn. So shut it. >>'


I'm just angry at your whole 'OMG I CONTROL ARTTT~' Ya don't.






Sypris's picture

Sentry - don't take

Sentry - don't take everything so personally. ♥ i'm not sure if it's your age or what, but everyone isn't out to offend you. please reread what you write. no one is out to hurt you. Smiling

it was fine advice. sometimes tracing will get you into trouble. you have to be really careful. ♥

Sentry. Do you ever just you

Sentry.
Do you ever just you know, consider the fact that it says 'for anyone struggling with art'?
I realize you're young, and you're teen-angsting over anything anyone says in a thread you've posted, but it pisses everyone else off, it's not always about you, stop trying to make it about you.

You know who's rude?
You are.

You have to be one of the most stubborn, immature, self centered people I have ever had the displeasure of knowing.

Kovah's tips were very helpful, they said nothing about controlling art, and your name was nowhere in their post.

You're the one putting false accusations on people.
You are the one telling people to 'shut it'

I for one think people who trace are lazy and will only pick up the flaws of whomever they are tracing from.

And I'm sure you're going to start up a baww fest about how damn cruel I am well here;
Yes. I am cruel.
Yes I am a jerk.
Yes I am generally not a nice person.
Everyone here knows it.

But I haven't had nearly as many people come complain to me about what an asshat I am as I've had people come and roll their eyes and complain about you

So before you put false blame on people who don't deserve it.
Go look in a mirror and give yourself whatever comment you were about to write.

There. That is all.
This account is a biography holder. Nothing more.
quadraptor's picture

Kovah's got some good advice

Kovah's got some good advice there. Really.

I mean I can't draw worth crap, but knowing that I just need to try at it until I get more comfortable is the key. I saw this when I moused stuff on iScribble. It went from terrible to "Wow, did I really make that?"

Thanks Kovah, it's great info for a non-artist like me. Eye


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In an unrelated rant, I don't like that people assume all angels are feminine. I know this might get into theology and stuff but I wish I saw more artwork of male angels.

Google images shows feminine angels (not all of them, but the overwhelming majority are). And why are all cherubs babies?!

Uhh...if I'm not mistaken, cherubs (and angels in general) are supposed to be heavily-armored warriors (if you type in 'archangel', they pop up). I don't get why the common depictions are women in robes or naked babies.

And I know this is the absolute wrong place to rant about this since guys are an endangered species in the Endless Forest, but it's baffled me for a long time.

This isn't saying that there's anything wrong with female angels. But if I were a cherub and saw all these pictures of naked babies associated with the word 'cherub', I'd be pissed off!

fffff I can't get the image

fffff I can't get the image of a pissed macho-cherub out of my head now, thank you for that Quad XD
Sypris's picture

Quad - that's a really

Quad - that's a really interesting point. it's kind of made me want to draw a male angel. haha ♥ the concept of angels as warriors is beautiful & fierce. i've also thought a lot about the concept of angels as beings without gender.
kovah's picture

SentrySeb: "I am 13. I can

SentrySeb: "I am 13. I can draw eyes that have professionals scratching their heads in wonder."

<----- That sentence really really really gave me a good giggle. Do you know what a professional artist does?, do you know that they could draw entire images that people would buy in the time it would take you to draw an eye Do you know that professional digital artists get paid over $3000 for perhaps 20 hours work? Do you know I work as a freelance artist and i get PAID to draw things for people and I've had work said work published. I'm not quite at the $3000 level but that is my goal in a year or two. That is why I know these things and puts me in a position to say what does work when it comes to drawing. Its not the only way to learn but it works for a hell of a lot of people and other professional artists will endorse it.

"My friend traces, and guess what> She hasn't gotten one 'OMGTRACEING!' issue. My art teacher says it a great way to learn. So shut it"

That in itself tells me that your art teacher does not know what they are talking about and are somewhat of a idiot, tracing will never ever ever help you improve. You infringe copyright and pick up bad habits and don't learn anything, its like copying someone else's work in class, you wont learn anything that way either.

Do you want to know why I was 'blunt' or 'rude' as you put it because i'm tired of people whining over how they cant draw. Anyone can draw but no one is good at it overnight, do you want to know why artists are good at drawing because they draw every day for hours and hours. I paint from 8am - 4pm with a twenty minute break for lunch at the moment because I want to improve, admittedly i'm in a position that I can devote that much time to it at the moment but I want to improve, I want it so bad that I am willing to put the time in because i WANT my art on Wizards of the Coast Magic Cards or on PC games cover or on book covers. That is where I want to go.

Good luck with your tracing and your eyes, i'm sure someone will discover your amazing talent soon. Smiling

Vandettata: Thanks for saying it was helpful Smiling
Quadraptor: My friend draws only male angels they are awesome www.Edriss.deviantart.com give her loves Eye
kovah's picture

double post sorry

double post sorry
gone's picture

I hate it when deer sit

I hate it when deer sit between me and another of my deer's friends.

Do they know how rude that is?
quadraptor's picture

They might not know, some

They might not know, some deer are still learning forest etiquette.

But anyway if I ever did that, sorry XD I try to sit next to people, not in-between (unless it's people I know really well)
Verycrazygirl's picture

I hate how hostile TEFc has

I hate how hostile TEFc has become to the point people are always attacking each other over silly things and drama is everywhere.
I try my best to ignore it but it gets hard sometimes.

gone's picture

I

I agree.

Popularity-Seriously, I hate how people just ignore me completely and only greet their friends. We can all make good friends, but only if you actually greet us and play with us. I always feel strangely excluded from any group that I join, because I know that the bonds between the group is stronger than my bonds with them.

Originality-Get over it...just seriously.

There's so many characters in this world.
quadraptor's picture

I've felt that way too. I

I've felt that way too. I often walk around and look for groups of deer rather than just a couple standing around. I assume any two 'paired' deer are mates and would be angry if I approached.

I've had deer get angry at me for 'interrupting' what they were doing. Especially when I'm just trying to hang out with a friend and someone else gets mad and lowers their antlers at me. It's hurtful that people would be that protective over the same friend.
Verycrazygirl's picture

^

^ <3

Celeste, you're welcome to hang out with us, sorry if you sometimes feel excluded, I do try to include you.
You too, Quad.

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A person may be the first to invent something on a TEF deer, but that doesn't make you the first person to invent that something. Somewhere out there there's bound to be a character, maybe a different species that has that same appearance or quirk as your character.
You may be first to come up with the idea but for crying out loud that doesn't mean you copyright it.

I understand you may be protective, and I know there are some ripoffs out there, but one, two three small details may be the same and there's a lot of that these days.
I've also noticed people within friend groups may copy their friends' ideas, but a complete stranger who could do the same or similar to that friend of a friend will receive a lot of bullshit about it.

It takes official forms to really copyright something.

quadraptor's picture

Yeah it's like me putting

Yeah it's like me putting wings on deer. It's been done before, I knew it would be done a bunch on here too, but I wanted it in my stories so I did it. I'd never try to copyright it because it's such a simple thing to add that I know I don't 'own' it.

*nodnodnod*
kovah's picture

The best thing to do is

The best thing to do is completely ignore them if you feel someone is being rude to you, go and greet your friend and dont respond to the other deer. These people thrive off attention.

I would take a guess that no one is ignoring you completely either, remember some players have lower speed internet connections and do not always have all the players on their screen. So I think you can see them but they cant see you.

With my stag Ayal I take the approach that any deer in the forest is there to be social, he will go up to strange deer and sit down next to them couple or not. Then they will either get up and he can interact with them or they will ignore him and carry on sitting down in which case i get bored and find someone else. I'm not going to take it personally if they dont want to play or if they lower their antlers - i normally just do the laughing emote "HA I AM LAUGHING AT YOUR GRUMPY!" then nuzzle them. Laughing out loud
shamiya's picture

Quote:Then they will either

Quote:
Then they will either get up and he can interact with them or they will ignore him and carry on sitting down in which case i get bored and find someone else.


This.

Also, CelesteLune, you can approach my deer in-forest anytime.
Sluggs's picture

I has a rant or two! Why do

I has a rant or two! Twisted

Why do some people abandon their old friends, when they make new ones?

Also, why is it when some people find a boyfriend or girlfriend, they ignore their old friends?

Good friends are hard to come by! Don't forget about them! Smiling
Unplugged's picture

Full-blown CSS on normal

Full-blown CSS on normal blogs - is it really necessary? :s

And
Why must it be so colddddd
Kutanra's picture

wow, I guess its a good job I

wow, I guess its a good job I made this rant and Quad of course its not the wrong place to rant, thats whats this blog is for. It was you saying how you were worried bout it that I made this.

SentrySeb-I'm sorry, please don't eat my head but if you are going to attack people on here please do not post anymore. I clearly said that you can get angry and rant and rave but if there is too much against other people I will take action.

Kovah-Thats some good advice (if ever so slightly patronizing but still, good advice) I see your point but what I meant when I said I trace is that I don't wanna do realistic drawings with photos or other peoples, I want to learn manga animals and also I am not going to post it anywhere claiming it as mine, I just wanna be able to doodle really good in class so I'm not stuck for things to think of drawing
~Kutanra & The Kindly Guide~

...Other people may be there to help us, teach us, guide us along our path, but the lesson to be learned is always ours...

>.< ok i'm getting really

>.< ok i'm getting really irritated that the pictos refuse to spread no matter how long i leave the forest up or no matter what i do T^T .
i agree with Celeste about popularity
and i also just dislike finals in general xD



-explode- I really hate how

-explode-

I really hate how I leave for a bit and suddenly in-forest its like "Oh, you've been gone for two weeks so you're dead to me". Bleh. I mean, the purpose of this game feels completely lost if everyone keeps getting worked up over the social aspect of things. It feels like facebook sometimes...I swear... So I can't play a character without having to be all pins and needles around every deer I meet, that's if they don't completely ignore my guts. So unless I've known your deer for years we can't just sit together or at least exchange a bow or whatever?
I find it crap when I can only write about my experiences on my first couple months playing this game and can't say anything after that. I find it crap that I get sick and suddenly lose every acquaintance I have on here. I hate how I'm trying to find a way around this weird actuality and I can't. It's really frustrating.

Whatever happened when it was
-you bow
-I bow

and not

-you bow
-I keep on walking since I have no clue who you are


What's going on? I know there're always popularity issues everywhere but I think that it's turned up and become a bit severe. Just a bit.

I feel a load better now....Kutanra, this blog was a wonderful idea.

Edit:

Celeste, ♥

shamiya's picture

Awh... sorry to hear that

Awh... sorry to hear that Equinox. My deer has been missing your fawn.

yea she's missing sianna too

yea she's missing sianna too :] hopefully it will fix itself if not i might try to reinstall it
but i share a comp with someone else who plays TEF and i know with version 3.4 sets are saved server side(?) if i am correct but i'm still a bit worried about loosing them their sets >.<
and if all else fails then i might download 3.31 if it is still available x.x wow thats feels like a lot xP