The Reference Desk: La [Biography, Character/Player Updates]
August 26, 2010 - 4:58am — AlisonRobin
Most Recently: Back, briefly. Discord is Alison number zero three seven one if anyone wants to chatter. I'm trying to get pages working again after dropbox's policy change. I'm just hosting the files now where I host some other stuff.
Being that I am trash, there is now a La tumblr.
Spoken Name: La (humanuses); Archaeologist, Librarian, Researcher Age: Five; arrived in The Forest on Tuesday, August 24th, 2010. Sex, Gender: Female/Doe/Hind, moderately feminine. Irrelevant to character. Real Name:La's Pictograph can be seen in my avatar, with reduplicating circles and isosceles triangles, plus a strange little fifth mark on the side I can't explain. Click for most complete set of visual references, though still a WIP.
Physical Traits and Mannerisms of the Body La's facial structure is fairly typical for Endless Forest deer. She has wide set eyes, a broad nose, and a mostly lipless mouth. She would not be considered pretty by most standards. I never draw her face the same way twice because I'm quite quite faceblind even in real life, and how pretty La is has never affected her as a person. She is usually monochrome (though still a bit brown due to natural brown coloration underneath the spell colors) and tends to look drab in most light.
Four feet tall at the withers, she could look many humans in the eyes comfortably.
La's obsession with humans has caused hand-like marks to form in her pelt and antlers. La has hand shapes over her eyes, shoulders, and hips as well as in her antlers. La's fur is soft and floofy, good for cuddles. Her antlers do not shed but are also done growing for good (unless changed by magic, in which case it seems anything could happen). They are slightly flexible, as if made of stiff rubber, and no matter what spell is cast on her the tines will always be blunt. Sometimes they stick out farther than others or in other directions if she sleeps on them funny. When other spells are cast on her, she will always have hands visible on her somewhere, and her antlers will always have hand shapes to them regardless of shape, so on occasion you may see her wearing all kinds of spells.
Under the regular forest smells of grass, water, wood, dirt, and deer smell, La smells like a new book, and it's the hard cover edition, baby. She can speak softly and still be intelligible, and she can make her voice carry far without shouting. La can sound as strict as a librarian scolding someone for a late return or as kindly as a kindergarten teacher helping a student up on the playground after a fall.
La is often turned into other creatures, though she cannot change herself. She maintains her monochromatic coloration across any form that she takes thanks to the power of the Forest magic, and is black in the same places and white in the same places across different animals. When not a deer, her handprint shapes are replaced with hoofprint shapes to reflect where her heart really is. There are always hairless or featherless white circles where her antlers should be. She always maintains her voice and book-scent.
As a human, La's eyes are on exactly the same level as her eyes when she is a deer. She has short hair and the body structure of a healthy person who exercises regularly but mostly does cardio. She is otherwise very average in build. She resists the wearing of clothes except by necessity to be polite and stay warm. She has limited finger coordination and struggles with things like forks, doorknobs, and other fine motor tasks.
Personality, Emotions, and Philosophies La is a bookworm whose life has been all study with little opportunity to apply what she has learned. At one time she had dreams of being a widely respected researcher, but she has given up on that and now just wants to find kind deer to engage her in conversation because it's rare for anyone to read what she writes. She loves to share what she knows and learn new things, and she loves to talk. If you love to talk too, that's fine because she also loves to listen to your stories. La appreciates but has no talent for art. She is very laid-back about her beliefs and accepting of others' differences unless they are willfully ignorant or intentionally cruel.
The doe can be easily excitable but also easily frightened, and in stressful times her emotions can be all over the place. She isn't as playful now as she was as a fawn, but she still likes to watch play and occasionally join in. Her favorite game is running at others from the side and leaping over them. La absolutely loves being turned into other animals, and usually spends hours in a form. She likes the curiosity of fawns and the conversation and wisdom of older deer. Please assume in The Forest that she is chattering pleasantly (or listening when you chatter back if you like) when your deer is keeping her company. If you are a fawn she will do her best to give you a proper education even if she is playing with you.
Often, La is wrapped up in small details and has difficulty seeing The Forest for the trees, so to speak. She can very easily come across as dopey if the person speaking to her is not making the same connections that she is, or because La will often speak about things without providing adequate context, e.g. telling humans "I've been a squirrel before and..." or other things that wouldn't make sense to a layman.
Conversely, she can be extremely to the point, and her typical threat-response is with a wit and sharp tongue that only shows up when she may be in danger. La notices more than others think and usually knows if someone is a potential risk. She'll fight with her words by being precise and truthful, and that's usually enough--sticks and stones can break bones, but the pen is mightier than the sword. These are only last-minute tactics to diffuse a threat-situation though--if she's actually in trouble, she'll just sprint. If she has to, she will protect a fawn by being a meatshield (and has in the past been injured this way).
La is very pious towards The Twin Gods but has put time into learning about some human religions as well, mainly studying Christianity and assorted varieties of European paganism. La believes that the role of religion in a person's life should be palpable, and worships The Twin Gods because they are present and part of The Forest--she would likely lose her affection for them if they left for good and would perhaps worship the sun instead.
La has no inclination or intention of ever having a mate or romantic partner. She is oblivious to flirtation and will just think you're being weird if you try it with her. She thinks kissing is gross. She just wants friends.
If La put stock in astrology, she would be a Virgo (analytic and helpful) or a Gold Tiger (enthusiastic and brave).
When in human form, La doesn't eat meat even though she has the option. She believes that humans, as omnivores, should eat meat to respect their evolutionary heritage, but she does not because she comes from a line of herbivores, and her people are not meant to eat flesh.
La uses the word "people" to generically refer to deer, humans, and any other entity with a sense of self-identity. Typically when she says "deer" she refers specifically to her human-faced Endless Forest kin, not other kinds of deer or deer-like beings that live in The Endless Forest.
Story and Plot Elements, Pathways Forward La is not an especially exciting person, but exciting things happen to her and she tends to roll with the punches. Because of her insight into the human world, La uses the Gregorian Calendar to keep track of time.
La came to exist on August 24th, 2010. She acquired her book shortly thereafter, or it acquired her. She learned to read before she learned to speak and didn't speak until late September 2010.
Shortly after physical maturation in late September 2010, La became reclusive and mostly sequestered herself to focus on studies. She returned in late December 2013.
On Mardi Gras 2014 she encountered one of The Gods in orb form and saw a disco ball, and was also witness to an airplane flying over The Forest. Somehow, she was invisible to all other deer (but they were visible to her) and a motionless owldeer wore her pictogram at the ruins and several of La's friends later told her about the owldeer. (I even saw it myself on my partner's computer, looking between his screen and my own.) The owldeer's importance on La's life and story is yet unknown.
On March 11, 2014, La woke up with a skull stuck to her face that was impossible to remove. The story is recounted here with illustrations and it is ongoing. On March 15th, she again woke up with a skull but this time also with the rest of the skeleton that goes with the skull.
On Easter 2014 La ate the tree eggs and played with bubbles for the first time with Tanpopo and Twist. She wonders who sets up the candles, who lights them, and how they get to some of the places they get.
On May 4th, 2014, she was turned into a giant dove, thanks to the Glitch Skull's glitch magic. She spited it by enjoying herself. Later, on July 17th, 2014 the Glitch Skull tried a new approach and got rid of all of La's spells while she slept, but she's a tough cookie. La had fun running around naked for a while and even reverted to a fawnhood state. Then on the next day she woke up again as an adult with all of her spells returned to her. Called the Glitch Skull on its shenanigans and went naked anyway, even going so far as to be a fawn in order that her magic wouldn't stick. Allowed her magic to come back naturally by letting friends and strangers cover her with spells.
On July 29th, 2014 La went on an hour long meditation walk organized by Quad. It started at The Old Oak, which unnerved her, but she reasoned that nothing bad would happen if she was surrounded (and protected) by a herd of other deer. She was right--and making it to The Old Oak was the worst part. Meeting Quad there and finding him dancing made her feel better, though she still never went under the tree. The meditation walk was wonderfully soothing after that, and La stayed the entire time.
During October 2014 when many of the forest folk were rutting, The Glitch Skull became enormously active and has been casting spells on La almost non-stop. She has given up on trying to shake off these frustratingly resilient spells for now since new ones keep coming in hopes it would frustrate the Skull.
La celebrated her fourth birfday on August 24th 2014. A cake from The Endless Cake dimension (neighbor to The Endless Forest) appeared and she attempted to eat it but failed due to endlessness.
For Halloween Eve, October 30th, 2014, La met the Big Zombie Deer Velocity for the first time. Later, she met the god Auriea and nuzzled her. She was gifted with a green luchador mask. She followed her god to The Old Oak and fearlessly followed her inside of it--yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me--and followed her after that to De Drinkplaats. While a crowd of naked deer frolicked, La found Auriea and they stood together without magic, side by side. Screens.
La spent the end of 2014 and all of 2015 and 2016 mostly absent from the forest, focusing on her education. She misses her friends but feels a spiritual call to pursue knowledge.
On more than one occasion La has been able to travel outside The Endless Forest and she assumed a human body. Because of her pelt spell sticking to her human skin and the fact that she is a deer at heart with no true human skills, La has proven absolutely unable to pretend to be a normal human in any convincing way. Her trips there are either comedies of errors or very dangerous situations indeed.
And of course, there's always more being added.
Skills, Talents, and Accomplishments of Note La has nothing to separate her from other Deer except her hard work, diligence, and the ability to draw careful conclusions through analysis of facts. La is a polyglot, reading a mix of modern and dead languages relevant to western literature including Old, Middle, and Modern English, Norman, Modern French, Classical Greek, and Latin in addition to her native Deer language. Her pronunciation is imperfect for most and she has a Deer accent (whatever that sounds like). She is good at turning misfortune and failure into opportunities to learn. She thinks outside the box. I would also consider it a power that she does not experience the emotion of boredom--the closest thing she feels is sleepiness and she often ends up using an open book as a pillow.
Her second favorite place to sleep is under the slanted rock in The Playground, around (357,394), because a Kind Stranger kept her company there one night when she was a fawn and they were the only deer in The Forest. After that, she likes the mushroom ring nearest The Ruins and sleeps there whenever she wants to feel safest.
She often wanders around The Forest, especially if she sees a pictograph that she recognizes or is off investigating something. You may see her running around aimlessly and weaving through trees or performing figure eights--it probably means she is trying to look at every side of a thing, or she just feels like moving around. It's possible she is also looking for the exact, proper location of something.
The only place she will NOT go is into The Old Oak, as she believes that it is a well of bad things. She is willing to go near it if there are enough deer around her to keep her safe, but that's her limit. The one exception is when she followed Auriea inside, certain that her god would protect her.
Reasons to Not be Alone, Reasons to Smile La has no family and was born into the world without parents. The Book is her family.
La has many friends and acquaintances whom she enjoys and treasures. She looks for them in moments of awakeness and often tries to stir up activity if she sees them out and about--otherwise she'll usually join a cuddle puddle or just sit with them.
While accepting and loving of all those she knows, La can still be leery of strangers. Individuals who carry themselves in threatening ways, are armed in any sense, or have features typical of carnivores can make La nervous and she is less likely to approach and converse with them. In some but not all cases she considers the wearing of skulls and furs to be morbid and possibly offensive to her herbivore sensibilities, but tries not to judge the cultures of others. If she has heard rumors (i.e. if I read it in a biography) that a person is exceptionally aggressive and especially if they have killed someone before and that is widely known, La will avoid them peacefully but if approached will allow conversation.
La believes that by either magic or nature, deer that most closely resemble The Twin Gods (which is to say, true-blooded Endless Forest Deer with humanoid faces) are the most natural residents of The Forest, but she also believes that there is room for everyone in The Endless Forest and doesn't think that her gods would turn away any good-hearted asylum-seeker. She is usually pleasantly amused to see deer with inhuman faces, or even intelligent animals other than deer who have come to the Forest. She simply doesn't understand why anyone would want to come here, and is flattered.
Vipin- The first deer La ever met. Incredibly terrifying on his own, but he was sitting down at the time and that lessened La's fears. She quote-unquote sneaked over to him because her desire for company outweighed her fear of him and sat a few feet away. Later inched closer. Regards very kindly. Hasn't seen in a long time.
Flyleaf- One of the first deer La ever played with. An infinitely kind soul full of laughter and love, La is always happy to see Flyleaf and would do anything for him.
Ourania- One of the first deer La ever played with. Regards her very fondly. Hasn't seen in a long time.
Kind Stranger- La was often completely alone in The Forest as a fawn and on a dark and stormy night (in the 3.4 beta) she found only the Kind Stranger in the woods. She went to them very sadly and miserably and found comfort and shelter in their company under a mushroom and later underneath the slanted rock in The Playground. Hasn't seen them since and sometimes thinks maybe she imagined them.
Gustiro- Present for the first time La was ever helpful, before she even learned to talk. Gustiro's antlers were stuck and La helped him get un-stuck. Gruff, but he is La's definition of traditional masculinity in deer. Regards very fondly and recently reunited with him.
Kheiron- The first deer that La feels took her seriously, and the first deer that she introduced to The Book. She wasn't talking yet, but La wanted to talk with him more than anyone else in her childhood. Loves his playful nature. Hasn't seen in a long time.
Vaq- An individual she met when he was a fawn. Watched him grow up and developed a strong friendship with him. His extremely extroverted playfulness and tricksiness is counter-balanced by her preference for quiet tricks. He clearly cares for her in return, but La knows that he sees everything about how she likes to study the world around her as heretical and bizarre and has told her that her study of glyphs in pictographs "ruins the magic." She disagrees.
Walter- Owes him gratitude for his patience with her in helping her gather together her magic. La is oblivious to his past. Has run into him again now that he is a fawn and recognizes him by his pictograph. Intends to be nurturing in any way she can.
Ben- Such an eternal source of love and kindness. La seeks out Ben's pictograph any time she can sense it and will cuddle with him and romp with him any chance she gets.
Nika- In La's opinion, the best traveling and adventuring partner that one can have. Nika's life experience and La's technical understandings mix well together. La also probably owes her some money for buying her human clothes. A source of comfort and reassurance and La firmly believes that Nika could kick anyone's butt.
Toya- A sweet and mysterious soul, definitely an artist. Has been pranked by her spells and always surprised to see the way that Toya's visage can change. Hasn't seen her in a while.
Jennie- A wonderful playmate. La is always amused by her antics and happy to see her, but unnerved to see her with a different pictograph lately. Hasn't played with too much recently.
Kio- Much like Ben, Kio is a well of neverending love. La is enticed by her otherworldliness and mystery and seeks her out for cuddles and romps at every opportunity.
Twist- A squirrel! La doesn't know her well and hasn't spent an immense amount of time in her company, but owes her her life.
Stitches- The character of a fraudulent player who lied to the community, so a complicated entry. But, regardless of the player, the character did exist and La did know him as a very sad fellow. Kept him company when possible to cheer him up and attended his wedding, though assumes it is dissolved with the character's absence.
Arcus- A fascinating chimeric person. La doesn't know her intensely well but enjoys her. Attended her wedding to Stitches.
Shahla- A tough gal. La aspires to be more like her in that regard. Enjoys her company quietly most times, sort of observing and admiring.
Peppino- Complicated. Distantly aware that he may have a crush on her that La will never ever want to nor be able to reciprocate. La fails to notice his advances and maintains a strictly platonic friendship, taking advantage of his know-how of elements of the human world that she fails to comprehend. He has saved her life.
Sunna'May- A shape-changer that La finds intriguing. Has played with her and been amazed by her magic in the past, really blown away by her. Wonders what her story is.
Adrien- A deer raised by rabbits. La would like to pick his brain more than she has been able to. Knows him to be a genuinely caring individual. Met him when trying to hatch The Nubbin.
Trout- A unicorn true to unicornness. Beautiful as nature and just as kind. Has experienced and seen Trout taking on burdens for others out of selflessness and was immensely proud when Trout began to talk.
Tanpopo- The sweetest little girl. La is deeply invested in her well-being and frightened for her since she hasn't seen her or Oduvanchik for a while. Intervened in the past to step between Oduvanchik and Tanpopo and keep them apart, seeing the demon as nothing but dangerous for the fawn, but was unable to keep them separated.
V- An anxious, self-conscious person. La wants her to feel good about herself.
Cian- A young boy with a big imagination that La adored. Loved to play make-believe with him and tell him stories. Watched him grow pretty fast, he was always big for his age. Hasn't seen him in a while.
Palila- A very sweet young thing that never really had time to blossom before her player was bullied off the site. What I saw on the forum wasn't pretty. PSA: It's never okay to bully a child, no matter what. Even if a kid does something bad, they are still a kid and they need to be taught, not insulted. Don't let a few jerks ruin stuff for you.
Isca- A very magical young thing that La met trying to hatch The Nubbin. Believes she will grow up right.
"Nubbin"- An alien! La is invested in its well-being but is scared to take a strictly parental role with it, so she got it a cow to provide it with food.
Oduvanchik- A straight up monster from another world that came out of The Old Oak. Terrifying. La would avoid him completely if he didn't hang around Tanpopo. Has clashed with and been injured by him.
La is always open to meeting new people of all kinds, but if you look scary it might be best if you initiate.
Artifacts for Museums and Other Acquisitions La isn't much of a hoarder and has a tenuous concept of ownership at best. For better or for worse she has learned from humans when reading about them. Her view of non-dangerous objects is that they are meant to be shared and kept in good condition, and is in love with the ideas of museums and libraries because they exemplify what she believes responsible ownership should look like. She will happily share and show off her acquisitions to people who would like to learn about them.
Green Luchador Mask cast on La by the God Auriea on October 30, 2014. Outside of The Book, La's most precious possession and symbol of her faith. Her Luchadora name is "La Cierva." A terrible joke.
Blanket from The Human World, gifted by Peppino - His parting gift to La after taking her to The Human World. She keeps it in her nest area near The Point of Origin and it is usually covered with dry grass and leaves. In warm weather she sits on it and in cold weather she uses her mouth to pull it over her and wear it kind of like a cape. She will not hesitate to share it with anyone in need.
Book of Fairy Tales from The Human World, gifted by Peppino - Peppino's other parting gift to La. She read it in a day. It is kept in a hidden room under The Ruins to avoid damaging it but she will happily share it any time she thinks someone would like it.
Shard of Alien Egg salvaged from The Nubbin's Egg - La helped hatch an alien, and after its birth she saved a few shards of the egg. The largest is about the size of her face. She wants to analyze it to learn what the superhard sparkling blue material is made of. She keeps them in one of the rooms under The Ruins and will show it to others.
Glitch Skull and Accompanying Skeleton - The skull and skeleton of a mysterious, unidentifiable, asymmetrical creature. These objects are connected to an entity that haunts La and inflicts glitches on her. She keeps it wrapped in burlap as a way to punish the object. Occasionally she takes them with her to meet others if she thinks that they might be able to help her understand what they are, but is generally not keen on showing them off because she views them as threat.
Human Clothes from The Human World, gifted by Nika - a bizarre but plain costume acquired at a human LARP gathering that makes La look out of place in any setting, strange human appearance aside. Made of cotton, is a brownish red. Outfit consists of a sleeveless shirt, chest wrap and a long skirt over shorts. La struggles to don and remove the clothes because she is inexperienced. Philosophically and because of deer habits, she might be happier as a nudist but understands the social importance of clothes. They conveniently vanish when she returns to The Endless Forest.
Old Books from under The Ruins. Nika showed La where they were. The books are mostly gospels and other copies of the bible.
Ruin Rock A piece of rubble from The Ruins with some lines on it. La doesn't know where it belongs but keeps it because she found it as a fawn. A squirrel stole it and La had nearly given up on finding it when the doe Jezara found it and brought it to her again!
La is always looking to acquire strange things, but she especially likes books, items of historical significance, items connected to mysteries, and of course useful things.
La found a large reddish book in The Ename Ruins when she was only a few days old. It imprinted to her and now bears her pictograph on the front cover. It is the doe's window into the human world and her sole companion on lonely nights. The book appears mysteriously when La wants it and vanishes when she stops paying attention to it. It can display whatever it desires (which is often but not always whatever La desires to learn about). Sometimes it will be a show-off and introduce itself with flashy, full-color illustrations. Occasionally it displays a level of prescience and an awareness of its surroundings, usually with the cheeky intention of causing La some mild chagrin. It leaves opinions and comments in footnotes but they are rarely longer than a word or so and often comedic and sassy. The book seems to have some level of dominion over other books as well and can move them the way it moves itself, but this is rarely necessary.
La's underlying scent of books is this book's way of marking its territory.
It has a fear of water, fire, and any vermin that might nibble its pages.
The book may loan itself out to deer other than La on its own whims. Let me know if you just want to interact with the book or want it to cameo/participate in a roleplay you're in, I'll be happy to come over there. It's unlikely to aid evil characters, however.
How I Play La in The Endless Forest La and I react to people much the same way and like to be friendly and happy and playful. We want to run around and play or maybe just sit with you and enjoy some good cuddles. We'll keep our distance and run off if you do something aggressive or angry in or out of character.
We try to prioritize new fawns and nameless deer because they need the most guidance and help. With my player insight I know they are new players; La sees fawns as babies needing guidance and she sees nameless deer as hapless tourists who have no idea what they're doing and who don't speak the local language.
I generally think of biographies I read on TEFc to represent rumors and chatter that La overhears in The Forest when talking to others, so she may have heard of your deer. Obviously La will only be aware of the most superficial things about your character. She's usually up to date on deaths and births because I imagine those are the kinds of things that she hears most from gossipy deer.
La and I will ignore trolls and OOC rudeness both in and out of character. Additionally, La won't be injured by anything that happens in the forest unless I get to talk about it ahead of time with players and we all agree to something, although that is highly unlikely because she is very much not a fighter and not likely to get into fights. If you just start wailing on her in The Forest, tough titty--your attacks mean nothing.
Please don't have bought pictograms interact with La. I'll do my best keep her away from them too so it will be no work for you, I know several of them by heart and will give you space and avoid affecting your play. I do not hate players who have done it as people because I'm not going to let that ruin friendships, but I am upset with the idea of buying pictograms and I think the best way to resolve this for myself and demonstrate that I intend to side with M&A on the issue is to avoid them peacefully in the game.
When I play the game, I play it windowed so if La fails to react to you it means I've tabbed away or something has happened around me and I have had to abandon my computer. Occasionally this means it's frozen up. In-character, if she ignores you, please assume that she isn't doing it to be rude and is just distracted or dopey. She wouldn't want to hurt feelings and I'd rather your character think she's dumb than mean. If I am slow to react or if I moo, I am on my laptop without hotkeys or I messed up when trying to hit them.
Alison Alison is a turd who can't be trusted to hang out enough with you lovely people. I've always kept the game on my mind though.
(Thank ya! And yeah, Cian thinks La is his sister because of what she told him about the Gods as creators, and they fact that they look similar. XD)
"Well if they didn't like machines being better than them, then why did they make 'em in the first place!" Cian was getting frustrated already. These humans seemed pretty stupid from what the doe had told him. They were just making their own problems, making life complicated when it doesn't have to be. At least, in the boy's opinion. He scrunched up his nose and scoffed slightly. "I'm glad there's no dumb humans here! They'd just mess everything up."
"It is a mystery as to why there are no humans here," La affirmed, and looked around as if one might step out from behind a tree. "They built a number of things and then they left, and we don't know why. Maybe they didn't leave. But they were here, that's for sure."
She sighed heavily. "It's a mystery I would very much like to solve."
The boy shrugged and lounged back in a relaxed position. "I think there is humans outside the Forest, and deer turn into them when they go out, but I've been outside with Haro, and I didn't change at all." Cian flopped back, then scooted closer to La. He hesitantly came close enough to be snuggled comfortably into the doe's fur. He had witnessed different personalities, and realized recently that some deer are more affectionate than others. But it was in his nature to be a touchy-feely fawn, and he hoped La wouldn't move away.
"Would you go with me into the human place someday?" he asked shyly.
@Orin
She plans to be there for the little, unless its mama comes back for it or something in which case she'd surrender it.
And aghghg exciting baby times~
@Pelicann
La was happy to let him snuggle up and she butted her brow against his playfully to give him a few nuzzles. "Some deer change, some don't, and some do sometimes but not others. We're all different, I think. You could certainly still enjoy a lot of the human world without being a human, nature is still plentiful in their world in more varieties than we get here. I would be happy to go with you sometime to explore and learn some interesting things. You never know what you'll find out there."
Most likely for popularity reasons. I've been told here and there of some bad experiences friends had with the more popular players, and if they (or anyone else for that matter), tried to publicly call them out, they'd get utterly destroyed.
I refrain from jumping in on shit like that, because I'm sick of drama, and I want nothing to do with it anymore. I'd probably only say something if I was directly asked.
Yeah, my only experience with being bullied on this site was from a more popular player who was extremely condescending and self-righteous and I was obviously frustrated and baffled until I told someone else what was happening and they were like, oh yeah so and so's like that. And I kind of just what'd and let it go. But I'm also not a child.
It really isn't right that people have to be quiet about that shit without being thought of as jerks. I can handle it but jesus christ if it's at the point where some jerk is making a fake account to pick on a child it is way absurd. I think a lot of it as to do with skill as well, since both the recent victims are stellar artists. And I dunno if you read Blunt's line but they say "older players" at one point rather than "other players." BUT I STILL HAVE NO CLUE WHAT'S HAPPENING. Except that a child is being publicly and privately insulted and attacked, and there's no excuse for that. I feel like if she had actually done something wrong then the people being aggressive would be able to make their case publicly.
Also, can you imagine if you knew another adult who picked on children like that? Can you imagine how insane that would be? I cannot even begin to get it through my head, it is that crazy. I can't process the amount of disdain I feel for them as a human being, and I almost never get upset at people, I'm usually more of the "whatever, man" type. But just, christ.
I've never had it happen to me (thank god uugh), but I've talked to a number of players who had issues. And it pissed me off really - it pisses me off how easily we can be fooled into thinking someone's great, and then they're doing shit like this behind the scenes. It's a good thing in most cases, I wasn't close to the person who was doing the bullying, so I can keep distant without them questioning why.
The real shitty part is that I'm currently stuck between two closing walls in one case. And as far as that one goes, all I can do is shrug and go along with the movement. If it's not happening to me, I'm going to be as neutral as possible. I love both sides, but if one of them starts giving me trouble, then that's that. No more. I'm done.
You're right, it isn't right when it happens. People say that it's civil to not call people out, and to keep it private, but that's bullshit really. Perhaps over trivial things, like misunderstandings between characters that escalated and turned to OOC drama maybe. But when someone's harassing someone else, and belittling them, forcing them to choose between people, that's not right at all.
Technically, adults picking on children is quite common. Think about people who tell their kids they need to lose weight, or need to wear something different just because it isn't pretty enough. To me, that's bullying. And it's bullshit.
What matters in the end is doing the right thing so that, years from now, you won't look back at it and be like, "I was an idiot/jerk/whatever" and so that the other people involved don't look back and think, "I wish so-and-so had helped me when so-and-so was attacking me."
"Calling someone out" probably is never civil. But being open, honest, literal, and serious is being civil, even if you have an issue. But there's nothing wrong with publicly telling someone, "I am not okay with you doing this thing because of this reason. Please do not do this thing because it makes me feel such and such way." I live with four other people and we've made it work just by using the "I feel x when you do y" formula whenever something is wrong. I'm confident that it could work here too. Or anywhere. I'm not perfect though, no one is, and emotions can definitely screw things up sometimes. That said, this is TEFc not 4chan and we have to at least TRY to be civil.
I hate when people bully kids. It's worst when it's parents because that's where a lot of emotional problems start and so many times those things don't go away. When I was little I had a teacher who bullied me and that was awful as well. I wonder sometimes what makes people hurt kids' feelings, what makes them think it's okay? I can't remember my parents ever doing it to me. There was silly teasing but never anything hurtful.
Leí que tú hablas español también. ¿Cuántos años de clases ha tomado? O ¿aprendiste de hablar a la gente en su comunidad? Tengo tres años de la clase de español en mi escuela, pero escribo mejor de lo que me hablan.
Sí! Yo estudié por dos años en la escuela secondaria pero me olvidé mucho y luego en la universidad quería estudiar más y entonces estudié un año más. Este trimestre no hay nada clases de español y estoy esperando por el otoño cuando puedo tomar un clase de mi nivel.
Creo que puedo escribir más bien que puedo hablar porque tengo un diccionario y cuando estoy hablando a veces me olvido palabras. :x Y cuando escribir tengo tiempo para leer mis frases antes de hablando.
I gotta be prepared, Orin! Otherwise I was thinking they're gonna have to try to sneak into the human world or something and try to find some kind of appropriate substitute. Maybe kidnap a cow?
And yes, I do the skype stuff. I'm alisonrobin13 and it'll show my name as Alison Robin. Feel free to add me.
It's funny, I've read your roleplaying posts often, but I never actually knew what La looked like. Her design is much more interesting than I expected. I really like it. c:
The page design is pretty cool too. I'mma track you. <3
The chital-pelted doe recognized that scent, pointed ears perking up. A small, faint smile crossed her lips just barely as she trotted along the ground, hooves softly ringing with each step. The dirt darkened her gold, her her concentration was not broken. Soon, her eyes caught sight of the hands dangling from the other doe's head. Sunna'may smirked and walked up behind La, bowing slightly. "Hello," she greeted quietly, trying to push from her mind her earlier rudeness. Sunna wasn't one to apologize unless forced to. She hated admitting that she was wrong, and hopefully La wouldn't bring it up again.
La's ears flicked toward the sound a few moments before the rest of La noticed, and she turned to greet Sunna with a quick bow of her own. "Howdy," La said to the prankster with a raised eyebrow and curious smile. "How's life treating you today?"
The doe shrugged and dug out the ground, peeling away some grass with her sharp hooves. "Pretty well," she muttered in reply. She thought of returning the question, but found herself feeling rather...pretentious? Awkward? Whatever it was, Sunna'may wasn't feeling the most outgoing. "I wanted to, uh...to ask you. About, uh....about something."
Ah, a question! La grinned and shifted her weight from hoof to hoof with such excitement that she seemed to be dancing in place. "Ask away," she encouraged with a hopeful nod. "Whatever you need, I can do my best to answer... failing that I don't mind looking it up and I could get back to you later about it... if you don't mind waiting of course."
Sunna shook out her feathers for a moment, then dug at the ground again. "Well...I, uh..." The doe cleared her throat and furrowed her brow, pushing aside her shyness. "When I saw you the other day, there were two deer with you. There was a weird-looking one, a doe I think? And a...a, um...A stag. What was his name?"
La thought back, and smiled at the memory. "He's called Ben," she said, bobbing her head up and down. "Pretty quiet guy but he's a lot of fun. Good runner. Sometimes I'm not quite sure he sees the world the same as everyone else but he's a great guy.
"The doe with us was Kio," she added. "And yeah, she's kind of otherworldly. But she's fun too, and sweet."
Sunna'may smiled faintly and nodded. "Ben," she repeated under her breath. "Otherworldly? Does that mean she's not from here?" Sunna was excited to hear about someone who could potentially be like her, a visitor.
@Pelicann
La grinned at Sunna's faint smile. "That's a good way to put it," she said. "But I think Kio's here to stay with us all for good."
She picked a spot in the grass with an abundance of flowers and flopped into the sunny spot where things smelled the nicest. "Why were you asking? They're usually pretty easy to get a hold of and you could have just asked when we were all sitting around together. But you did seem a bit shy."
@Nika
La: "But I am a deer not a square. I don't even have any corners."
Nap marathon, La must be having awesome dreams. I haven't been on my desktop in a while because I've been moving around and doing stuff from phone or laptop.
Sometimes I hear soft mooing from my computer speakers and it keeps making me smile. Sweet dreams La & Lacie.
Mom emailed me and said we are doing family vacation
I said okay. For three nights we slept in grandma's garage, then for three nights we slept on the floor at my parents' house. Then we drove out to the middle of nowhere and apparently the house we had rented for a few days was a MANSION. It's so big we had to set up wifi relays in order to get internet everywhere.
They have a wooden monopoly set and wooden scrabble set. There's a hot tub and rose garden. I am currently lying in a water bed. There is a tiny hidden stairway that leads to a loft with children's beds. Everything is either leather or persian rug or granite.
I'm not leaving. When everyone else leaves the house and vacation is over I'm going to live in the loft with children the kid beds and leech internet. This is my home now.
Hum & Mjrn -- Yes. Rich people houses are strange. I feel like I'm in a different country. There's a bathroom with ten mirrors on three walls so you have to look at yourself, and then upstairs there are two bathrooms with full baths next to each other. I keep looking in cabinets and finding things. I found a closet with a phone. Just a phone. These people have a phone booth closet. Who does that? Why do I need one for myself now?
@Silver AAAH you are the sweetest gal! La's smile is my favorite part, she looks so innocent. ;u; And I love her picto floating around her in pieces.
I'm glad you like it, Robin. 8D I've been wanting to draw this girl in a while, I just love her design. It's simple yet amazing, and it suits her <3 She is also really intelligent, and it makes me like her a lot. Anyways, I am glad you like it. c: Might want to throw Luke at her anytime. I think he'd be nice for La to study. xD
Have a nice weekend <3
La and Luke would get along well, I think. She might be a little nervous about his helmet at first but it won't send her running. I'm always up for roleplay/interactions.
Oh, yes, that skull of his seems to make people uneasy. xD He is a nice guy though. c: He's... a huge, fluffy red derp.
But yeah, it'd be interesting n.n So, we can do it anytime you feel like it. ^^ You can either add me on Skype, or tell me to start a separate blog- or do it here as well. Or if you wish you can fling to his bio to roleplay (heneedsafewbumpssometimeseh) or start a new blog, I don't know. Feel free to any of it anytime. ^^
(Thank ya! And yeah, Cian
"Well if they didn't like machines being better than them, then why did they make 'em in the first place!" Cian was getting frustrated already. These humans seemed pretty stupid from what the doe had told him. They were just making their own problems, making life complicated when it doesn't have to be. At least, in the boy's opinion. He scrunched up his nose and scoffed slightly. "I'm glad there's no dumb humans here! They'd just mess everything up."
"It is a mystery as to why
She sighed heavily. "It's a mystery I would very much like to solve."
La is so sweet
~ C.S. Lewis
The boy shrugged and lounged
"Would you go with me into the human place someday?" he asked shyly.
Hnngh I feel like I am
I would love to have an RP between La and Palila sometime if you want!
@Orin She plans to be there
She plans to be there for the little, unless its mama comes back for it or something in which case she'd surrender it.
And aghghg exciting baby times~
@Pelicann
La was happy to let him snuggle up and she butted her brow against his playfully to give him a few nuzzles. "Some deer change, some don't, and some do sometimes but not others. We're all different, I think. You could certainly still enjoy a lot of the human world without being a human, nature is still plentiful in their world in more varieties than we get here. I would be happy to go with you sometime to explore and learn some interesting things. You never know what you'll find out there."
@Faina
Yuss. Is Palila's thread open for RP?
Sure it is! ^^
Most likely for popularity
I refrain from jumping in on shit like that, because I'm sick of drama, and I want nothing to do with it anymore. I'd probably only say something if I was directly asked.
Yeah, my only experience with
It really isn't right that people have to be quiet about that shit without being thought of as jerks. I can handle it but jesus christ if it's at the point where some jerk is making a fake account to pick on a child it is way absurd. I think a lot of it as to do with skill as well, since both the recent victims are stellar artists. And I dunno if you read Blunt's line but they say "older players" at one point rather than "other players." BUT I STILL HAVE NO CLUE WHAT'S HAPPENING. Except that a child is being publicly and privately insulted and attacked, and there's no excuse for that. I feel like if she had actually done something wrong then the people being aggressive would be able to make their case publicly.
Also, can you imagine if you knew another adult who picked on children like that? Can you imagine how insane that would be? I cannot even begin to get it through my head, it is that crazy. I can't process the amount of disdain I feel for them as a human being, and I almost never get upset at people, I'm usually more of the "whatever, man" type. But just, christ.
I've never had it happen to
The real shitty part is that I'm currently stuck between two closing walls in one case. And as far as that one goes, all I can do is shrug and go along with the movement. If it's not happening to me, I'm going to be as neutral as possible. I love both sides, but if one of them starts giving me trouble, then that's that. No more. I'm done.
You're right, it isn't right when it happens. People say that it's civil to not call people out, and to keep it private, but that's bullshit really. Perhaps over trivial things, like misunderstandings between characters that escalated and turned to OOC drama maybe. But when someone's harassing someone else, and belittling them, forcing them to choose between people, that's not right at all.
Technically, adults picking on children is quite common. Think about people who tell their kids they need to lose weight, or need to wear something different just because it isn't pretty enough. To me, that's bullying. And it's bullshit.
What matters in the end is
"Calling someone out" probably is never civil. But being open, honest, literal, and serious is being civil, even if you have an issue. But there's nothing wrong with publicly telling someone, "I am not okay with you doing this thing because of this reason. Please do not do this thing because it makes me feel such and such way." I live with four other people and we've made it work just by using the "I feel x when you do y" formula whenever something is wrong. I'm confident that it could work here too. Or anywhere. I'm not perfect though, no one is, and emotions can definitely screw things up sometimes. That said, this is TEFc not 4chan and we have to at least TRY to be civil.
I hate when people bully kids. It's worst when it's parents because that's where a lot of emotional problems start and so many times those things don't go away.
Leí que tú hablas español
Sí! Yo estudié por dos años
Creo que puedo escribir más bien que puedo hablar porque tengo un diccionario y cuando estoy hablando a veces me olvido palabras. :x Y cuando escribir tengo tiempo para leer mis frases antes de hablando.
Track!
I saw you ask sha about
~ C.S. Lewis
I gotta be prepared, Orin!
And yes, I do the skype stuff. I'm alisonrobin13 and it'll show my name as Alison Robin. Feel free to add me.
It's funny, I've read your
The page design is pretty cool too. I'mma track you. <3
Now you know! And thank you,
Hope you'll enjoy tracking and stuff, glad you like the page. Its been coming together piecemeal as I learn more CSS and Javascript.
The chital-pelted doe
La's ears flicked toward the
The doe shrugged and dug out
Ah, a question! La grinned
Sunna shook out her feathers
La thought back, and smiled
"The doe with us was Kio," she added. "And yeah, she's kind of otherworldly. But she's fun too, and sweet."
PEPPINO:
Sunna'may smiled faintly and
@Pelicann La grinned at
La grinned at Sunna's faint smile. "That's a good way to put it," she said. "But I think Kio's here to stay with us all for good."
She picked a spot in the grass with an abundance of flowers and flopped into the sunny spot where things smelled the nicest. "Why were you asking? They're usually pretty easy to get a hold of and you could have just asked when we were all sitting around together. But you did seem a bit shy."
@Nika
La: "But I am a deer not a square. I don't even have any corners."
Sorry it took so long. I lost
Sorry it took so long. I lost my stylus. Also messed up and made La a bit transparent then couldn't figure out how to fix it...whoops xD
/extensive squealing noises I
I love this.
La: CIAN! YOU HAVE ANTLERS!
Cian: *pride and manliness*
La: *sheds a single big sisterly tear about how the young ones grow up so fast*
And then they go sprinting off on an adventure through those purple flowers in the background. <3 This is great.
Thought it was kind of odd
Nap marathon, La must be
Sometimes I hear soft mooing from my computer speakers and it keeps making me smile. Sweet dreams La & Lacie.
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La: *bails*
1 & 2 ? (Her antlers do not
(Her antlers do not seem to want to be where they should be lol)
EEE so cute! And so like her
I like the curious tilt of her head.
(And no worries, her antlers are never where they "should be")
Random fanart for youu
/gasping Awesome. There's
Awesome. There's something about the way you do faces that makes everyone look so regal.
Haha thank you XD Glad you
how did u get a mansion tell
Mom emailed me and said we
I said okay. For three nights we slept in grandma's garage, then for three nights we slept on the floor at my parents' house. Then we drove out to the middle of nowhere and apparently the house we had rented for a few days was a MANSION. It's so big we had to set up wifi relays in order to get internet everywhere.
They have a wooden monopoly set and wooden scrabble set. There's a hot tub and rose garden. I am currently lying in a water bed. There is a tiny hidden stairway that leads to a loft with children's beds. Everything is either leather or persian rug or granite.
I'm not leaving. When everyone else leaves the house and vacation is over I'm going to live in the loft with children the kid beds and leech internet. This is my home now.
I feel you on a spiritual
Don't mind me But I made
But
I made this for you
-flops away-
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Oh man. Sleeping in a garage
I'd be finding ways to stay there too lmao
Hum & Mjrn -- Yes. Rich
@Silver AAAH you are the sweetest gal! La's smile is my favorite part, she looks so innocent. ;u; And I love her picto floating around her in pieces.
I'm glad you like it, Robin.
Might want to throw Luke at her anytime. I think he'd be nice for La to study. xD
Have a nice weekend <3
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La and Luke would get along
Oh, yes, that skull of his
But yeah, it'd be interesting n.n So, we can do it anytime you feel like it. ^^ You can either add me on Skype, or tell me to start a separate blog- or do it here as well. Or if you wish you can fling to his bio to roleplay (heneedsafewbumpssometimeseh) or start a new blog, I don't know. Feel free to any of it anytime. ^^
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Posted to his bio
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OMG It's a La! I remember