One thing to say:

TEF isn't srs bsnss ♥

I've not seen one fandeer player who hasn't included others, and the idea of this place is to have fun and meet others. The fandeer have allowed people to do this and I see absolutely no harm in it. Besides, it's not like it's just fandeer that ignore others-quite a vast amount of characters made originally are some of the worst offenders.

So, yah. I'm sorry you feel this way, but please chill. It's not like people having fun is something to get angry about. This is a game, and I hardly see how people enjoying it could ruin the forest experience for you. Come join in sometime, I'm sure you'll find we're all pretty epicsauce, just like everyone else around here ;D ♥

I also apologize if this came out badly, but I just hate seeing people getting worked up over an internet game designed for fun and meeting others and relaxation. It's really not worth the stress, and I really am sorry to hear that something like this has ruined the forest for you.

Also, if it makes you feel any better about the fandeer somehow, I get daily hate mail saying I'm the one who ruined the community by starting the KH deer. I've even gotten death and rape threats :B Some of it is pretty funny actually, over something so trivial. But seriously, try not to let it bother you if you can-it's really not worth it ♥

Also, something I figured I should add: I'm not saying my opinion is right, or that yours or anyone elses is wrong. I'm just saying that in the grand scheme of things, something like fancharacters in an online screensaver is hardly something I believe is worth stressing about or having your fun ruined by, and I'm saying this not only to express my thoughts, but in the hopes that it can somehow make you feel a bit better about the whole situation.

^ Well said, m'dear ♥ Shawna, you're also more than welcome to approach any of my deer, fan or otherwise, as well. Whilst I'm not around here very much anymore, I am always up for a good time when I am, so please, feel free, you and anybody else ♥

To be frank. Assigning a personality or characteristics to a deer, a la roleplay, would also seem to be somewhat separate from the original intention of the creators. In my view, it seems the forest was made as a piece of interactive art- for strangers to interact anonymously, without language, using a surreal avatar. In the beginning the masquerade didn't exist. There is no chat box for conversation or roleplay.

Getting to know players outside of the game in a community like this, setting up stories and roleplays and custom appearances of deer, seems to be an unintentional development.

I think using it as a game is probably not the creator's original intention.

But it has brought many people pleasure to use it this way. It can be a lot of fun to use it as a jumping-off point for one's own imagination.

If it is destructive to your own enjoyment of the forest, I recommend looking away from the elements that displease you or simply pretending they don't exist, and continue playing in the way that makes you happy. There are no character masks or hairstyles in the forest itself.

Seb, did you mean the last bit for me?

I never wanted to say this because I didn't want anyone to take it the wrong way, but...
Honestly I'm a bit annoyed by all these fandeer. Especially since there seem to be so many now. I think, though, that the main reason it bothers me is because most of them are from games/movies/etc. that I'm not into, and so I'm not really familiar with the characters or their backgrounds. Because of this, it makes me feel excluded sometimes, like I can't interact with these characters because I'm not into whatever they came from.

HOWEVER

I have nothing against the people who create/play fandeer. And I realize the problem is really more on my end. I'm sure they don't mean to exclude anyone. I think the only reason I feel like I can't interact with those characters is simply because, to me, it feels awkward, but in reality, no one has ever said that I can't interact with those characters, whether I'm a fan or not. It's not their fault that I sometimes feel "excluded." I know it's just me, that really no one is trying to exclude anyone, but I can't help feeling that way anyway. So I try to treat them like any other deer, and ignore the fact that they are "fandeer." It helps. And I've realized that it's not really that big of a deal. Let people play the game how they want. If they were treating it as some sort of exclusive club, then that might be a bit of a problem, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I still get a bit annoyed at all the fandeer sometimes, but there's really nothing wrong with people doing it, and I can understand why they do, and really, it's not hurting anyone. Besides, I don't think this will last forever.

Anyway, yeah it can get tiring, but it really isn't worth getting all upset about.

My apologies, the E; confused me.

That's saying too much, but I am glad you didn't misunderstand me. Thank you...

Huh, Eye? What'dya mean? :c

I like you, even if you think me a nuisance.

Not at all! I love your posts, and Often wish i was at your level of kindness and... humanity. <33


Love ya, ES. ;D

^Indeed. I mean, you cn join in. There's nothing wrong with it, sweetie. Although, this topic got olddd~

It's run it's course. Now, let's let itdrift away... Into the very pit of nothingnesss~

"Take a moment to pretend this community site doesn't exist. Now go into the forest. Do you notice these FanDeer? Do they look any different to any of the other deer in the forest? "

I wish, whenever people have an issue on here, they would do this.

Can this be a sort of golden rule on TEFc?

I'm actually really surprised someone would post something like this.

Frankly, I think that's pathetic, to put it lightly.

This is my first time to be rude on this wonderful community, so that really proves how disappointed I am.

It's just a game and people can have any deer that they want. Why should you care? It doesn't change anything.

Just a reminder of the golden rule to all here; treat others as you would like to be treated.

I suggest an end to posting in this thread.

Forgive me, if the following offends anyone. But, Shawna, I think you are over reacting. I myself have a fandeer, like a few of the people on this site. However, just because he has the same name as a original character, I have shaped him to have a different personality completely different from that of his original. Because people on here have chosen to have a fandeer, doesn't mean it will be exactly the same. Perhaps people have reasons for choosing to have a fandeer, maybe they have a fandeer because there is a character from a movie/book etc that they feel drawn to and in the end, want to shape and form them (as I did) into something they feel they can relate to. Or maybe they just feel this certain character represents them in more than one way or another. Many people have introduced fandeer simply because it acts effect in the forest. I don't see any wrong in it myself, some people have beautiful characters formed, now only holding an original character's name. I think perhaps this is one of the opinons best kept to yourself, as the community site doesn't need more drama over petty things such as this.
Again, my apologies if I offended you.

It's true that there's been a large influx in the number of fandeer, but honestly? It doesn't really bother me. I have yet to see a fandeer or their player "exclude" anyone from anything. When the KH first came around, I played with them all the time; there was never an issue with being ignored or excluded.

If anything, I'm beginning to think you're a bit like me; you get upset over something, and then you end up thinking/saying things about everyone that aren't entirely true because you're upset, and you only see the negative perspective to it. It's a bad thing to fall into that, trust me.

So, if anything, I suggest taking a breather from TEF for a bit, and just taking the time to think on it. It's not that big of a deal, honestly. It's not an exclusive club of some sort or anything. It's just a bunch of people who want to have fun, and are doing so.