If they aren't being used, there's no use in keeping them. No harm.

I think everyone who don't have a 1gen picto always wanted one, but never had the courage to ask (or thought they wouldn't get any anyway). So now that everyone asks, it's okay to ask. At least that's what I've been observing. :')

@ mini
yes. i think it started with one person and others followed. maybe the idea of trading something for an old picto didn't occur. i don't know.

i don't know why it's such a bad thing. if people are willing to give them away, people are willing to give them some love.

Ah, I see what you mean.

Why do I have a liking for the Gen. 1 pictos? So much that I would love to have one myself?
Because of the second gen. pictos. The repeated dull lines and shapes, some look like complete scribbles. Seeing the same pictos over and over and over again through the registration page... where's the love? When I look at the lucky players who have the first generation pictos I see a change of pace. A little imagination and creativity, a blue flower in a field of red flowers- they are unique. It's a natural behavior for humans to want something that there is none or little of. In a way the 1st Gen. pictos are antiques, and one day no one will have any spares. Maybe that's why I would love to have one. And one day there will be no more 2nd generation pictos, and people will ask for them. A repeated cycle.

@Bambookirin. Ah, you put it so eloquently! And I can't but agree with you, especially since I have mixed feelings about the 2nd gen. pictos. Some are okay, but most of them are just bland.

@Lung: Aww, come, now, I didn't mean for this to be an attack, I was just curious! Please don't take offence? I have nothing against people asking for 1st gen. pictos, believe me, if I did, I would rant on and on and it would be full of bile and curses. But since you're here, would you mind sharing your opinion? It's a quite excellent opportunity to have the one who inadvertently started this here >w< Please, have a seat and a cookie, share!~ *gives seat and cookie*

Oh, I have to second these two:

Many of them are sloppy and cluttered in my eyes. No offense to those that love them.
You have to spend hours finding a unique one because they all look... close to the same.
The gen. ones are all very unique and gorgeous.

The thicker lines and swooping patterns and swirls were ferociously gorgeous.

These are exactly my thoughts, haha. ♥

I would also like to add that I feel there is something very special, very beautiful about the uniquely bold designs of the first generation, which I think seem to capture much of the forest's essence itself.
The nearly Celtic knots and the thick, elegant lines of the previous generation have always matched the eerie brilliance of the game; but I think that the second generation looks almost—comical.

Hm... I hope that makes sense. And oh, Lacie! Don't say that. <3

Or... we could have 1st gen day... where there's a lot of first gen pictos xD

With today's situation, I posted a blog asking for a gen 1 and giving art in return, then several others followed and made their own blogs, I guess.

ajdsdhghdg DX

I've done the same with trying to find a gen 2 that looked different than most, and I did. It took me about five hours to do that. There's a few beautiful ones out there, but the majority of the gen 2's seemed rushed and cluttered, and for all we know, they probably were. M&A were in a hurry.

My original intent was to simply show my annoyance and not come back (And I'm feeling horrendously lazy/crappy and I wasn't planning on typing an essay), but since you asked, I'll tell. Annoyed and disjointed thoughts, here they come. Hide your kids and wife. And husband.

The reason I asked for Gen 1 pictos was for the many reasons stated here; I find them more aesthetically pleasing to look at. There's something about the bold swirls and overall designs of them that really grab at me.

Sure, there are some very nice Gen 2 pictos as well, but it takes an eternity to find them; I've spent at least close to two hours (And no, I'm not exaggerating) finding decent Gen 2 pictograms when I registered them. And of course, the trap; oh my god, the fucking trap.

Just because you search a picto name, and it doesn't show up, it doesn't mean it's not taken. I wanted to name an account "Blood" and when I searched it, nothing came up. But when I tried to register it, it said the username was taken, and I lost the pretty Gen 2 that took me 45 minutes to find. This happened twice, by the way. It's because, I believe, people register a pictogram, and then don't check their E-mails. So the name is taken, it's just not registered yet. It becomes very infuriating when you find a decent Gen 2, only to lose it because the name was taken but it hasn't shown up anywhere.

For me, the Gen 2 pictograms are just way too harsh and blockly looking; they lack the smoothness of the Gen 1. And for me, Gen 1 pictos seem to invoke a feeling in me that I can't place; Gen 2 picotgrams only cause resentment for me.

That is not to say that I won't be using any Gen 2 pictograms I have; in fact, all of them (Except for Lacie's now) are tied to a character. Now sure, I might not play those characters much, but I refuse to hand the pictos over to anyone in the event that I decide to randomly pop one of them in. And the reason I'm not adopting Lacie's out is:

- It's a damn star. Everyone and their brother has one.
- I consider it a part of Lacie's story, and therefore handing it over to someone makes it lose its value as her former identity (Which, believe it or not, plays/played a big part in who she is, and what she came to be.).

Now originally, when I asked for Gen 1 pictograms, I really wasn't expecting any responses. I wasn't offering anything (And I can't offer anything), and so, yeah. I was surprised to find how many people were actually willing to give up pictograms (And some very gorgeous ones) at that. However, I was also not expecting others to come into the blog also looking for Gen 1. But I'm not that mean of a person; I wanted to help them, so I did by starting a list. I think it's because I actually had the gall to say "Okay, I can't offer anything in turn, but may I have a Gen 1?" that caused this whole thing to go out of hand.

To be frank, I'm actually cross at the fact that Gen 1 pictograms seem like currency now. It's all "Hey, I'll give you a Gen 1, but I either want art or a Gen 1 in turn." I suppose I'm mostly cross because to me that means that the "really good" Gen 1 pictos go to the ones with the most talent, but life isn't fair, and I'm actually very much in love with the ones that I have. I'm very grateful to the ones who willingly let me take their pictos without giving something in return. And again, they're both absolutely beautiful and I cherish them.

...I need a goddamn Diet Coke.

Ugh, I know how you feel Whey.
I have spent most of my day trying to find a nice gen. 2 picto, then losing it.
I've started to notice that most of the nicer pictos are... becoming harder to find and I keep seeing the same ones repeated. Maybe we're going to see another generation soon?

I've lost a handful of pretty gen2's because SOME OF THE USERNAMES WERE ALREADY TAKEN. They were. I immediately searched up the names, and coincidentally, there was a username with it already. :|
*foams and throws her pc out the window*

I wish each one had like, a number. 1, 2....4,563. So you could like, search the specific picto up again.
I am disappoint.

This is why. Gen 1 pictos are gorgeous and often more..inspiring. Many of the pictos I found would often inspire a character by themselves(though, ironically, that was not the case with Bylah's picto. I only realized after the fact that it looked like a 'B').

@Lung: Wow, I really am sorry to have offended! And That last point you made, about pictos being more or less currency right now, I think that's a problem too... I just hadn't been able to word it correctly. I just got this Neopets-ish feeling whenever I saw a blog offering art for pictos and I couldn't explain why, but thanks to you, I finally know why TwT Because art and pictos have currently transformed into currency, which is what Neopets runs on... Anyway, let's not get side-tracked! I agree that this is a problem, I mean, has the milk of human kindness gone stale? I certainly don't hope so, especially not here where it otherwise seems to be fresh and lush as ever! Hmm, but I don't think the people who started offering things for pictos intended for this, they were probably just trying to show their gratitude beforehand, to show the givers how much they would appreciate a picto... In any case, I doubt any of us are in the wrong, and you've got nothing too feel offended over, believe me, at least not from my side TwT

I was just curious ^^'

Chickenwing, I wasn't offended, I was/am simply annoyed. There is a difference. <3 (;

AMA, HOW COULD YOU? >8(

-sticks that right on the favorites bar-

I favourited that too, thanks ;____; ♥
I've lost too many pictos that took hours to find. e-e

I assumed players wanted them to play the older versions of TEF, (such as 3.13), since you can't log into those with generation 2 accounts.

*has a bad thought*

This is something else that might make M&A decide to make older versions not work any more, on top of the spell data sharing woes!

If they touched the older games simply because of people asking for Gen 1 pictos, that would be completely pathetic of them.

It was pathetic enough creating Server Side.

Server side wasn't pahetic. And off-topic, even.
I doubt M&A would have a problem with the exchange of picto's. I bet IF things get bothersome, they'll simply ask us what's going on. M&A Are actually quite nice, you know.
But you guys also have to realize they do this for us, for FREE. Do you know how many people do WORK for FREE these days? Be a bit more grateful!

Misako, I apologize for coming off the way I did. It's simply a very touchy subject for me, and it's hard to react well to it.

I'm not saying that M&A are trying to ruin everything, and I do understand that this game is free. However, to me, I get the impression that they are desperately trying to control everything within the game as well. I was horribly against Server Side, and at the time (and even a little now), the servers were horrid; going Sever Side meant losing your data on a consistent basis. I refuse to trust something that will simply make me plant my fist in my monitor. And yet, they went through with it anyway. I'm just thankful that they haven't touched the older games for that very reason. I mentioned a while back that if the older versions were touched at all, I was packing my bags and leaving. That still stands.

It would be nice if they could simply allow us to figure things out for ourselves, instead of threatening us/butting in.

Quite a good question, Shika. I can't really see what makes a gen 1 pictogram so very unique when it simply identifies your deer. But then again, I haven't been on as long as many other players.