"Holly on the Old Oak" development thread

quadraptor's picture
Heya, I had an idea but I wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions for it.

I'd kind of like to write a series of Christmas stories for you all. And if at all possible, I'd love to get a little community involvement on what kind of a theme for each, who should be in them, ect. I haven't decided about opening up character slots for all of them or if a few will be generic stories. I'd like these to be a gift to everyone anyway

So here's what I'd like if you guys don't mind answering a few questions. And if you want to 'agree' with anyone's responses, please do so - it'll help me decide what ideas are popular and such.

1 - What kind of a Christmas story should it be? What should it be about?
2 - Who should be in the story? Should it be generic animals? Should it involve specific TEF characters?
3 - Should there be a theme or moral to the story?
4 - Should the story be based on a popular Christmas song? And if so, which song?
5 - Lastly, what suggestions or ideas do you have?

I'm going to write twelve stories altogether, so any ideas are greatly appreciated.

I'm planning on writing a few now and posting them starting December 1st. Keep checking this for when I have character slots available for stories, too! They will be in bold below


I officially have 12 stories now. Thank you to everyone who came up with suggestions. I could use one or two more deer for the Night Before Christmas and Rudolph stories but otherwise I should be good on characters too.

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Ideas so far (striked out = I've gotten it written, but it won't be posted until December 1st or later, and ** = I started it but haven't finished yet) :

Quad - A deer walks in a dreary winter night, finding a town where Christmas lights seem to warm his spirit. A child in the town has a Christmas wish, and he hears it... *would be a generic deer story, non TEF*

Quad - What if a deer randomly found a Christmas ornament on a tree in the Endless Forest? What would they think? How would they react? Featuring Toukan, Cloud, and Aeis

Quad - A story where one of the most rejected/hated/lonely deer in the Endless Forest is shown some love by a total stranger.

Quad - What if the Endless Forest baddies had their own end-of-the-year party?

Terabetha - A story in the style of A Christmas Carol, with guest appearances from TEF ghost deer to play the roles of the different spirits, and a story where the main character learns an important seasonal lesson...
Characters taken - Scrooge (Verdy's Walter), Cratchit (ShimmyShimmy's Silence) Marley's Ghost (Zerg's Laghodessa), The Ghosts of Christmas Past (my Trunks), Present (CelticMystress' Mystress) and Future (Danny2610's The Creature), and Tiny Tim (Two's Caden)


Trigger - A 'Twas the Night Before Christmas' story where a Santa deer visits the Endless Forest, or perhaps...an Endless Forest deer doing Santa's job for him?

Eyestrain - A Rudolph-style TEF story.
Deer to be included so far - Chickenwhite's Raleigh, Zerg's Zergarikiaka, Pega's Scape, Ourania's Ourania, SnowSauria's Snow, CelesteLune's Celeste, Nix42's Deer (need info please), Vandettta's Tusse, and Halafax will be our 'Rudolph'


Eyestrain - A story inspired by the Carol of the Bells and featuring Brd.

PLK217 - A story inspired by Good King Wenceslas (Featuring Silun and Laruna)

Zerg - A Nativity Story (The three wise deer will probably be Mar Sart, Yorres, and Mystress, and Kaoori and Wesker will be our Mary and Joseph, with RedKora, Serendipity and Zephyr as 'shepherds')

Chickenwhite - A ghost story where a deer meets a strange fawn and shows them the Christmas spirit. Featuring Redd

Vandettta - A poem where the Endless Forest deer decorate a Christmas Tree

Hm, this sounds lovely! I'd

Hm, this sounds lovely!
I'd really like to see something in the style of A Christmas Carol, maybe dealing with different 'forest spirits' whom a main character learns some important seasonal lesson from?
quadraptor's picture

Oooh I like that! And we

Oooh I like that! And we could have actual TEF characters who really are ghosts guest star as those characters (my Trunks could be one of them since he is a forest spirit). Thanks for the idea, I'll put it into the list of what I might do.
IoRez's picture

I would totally love to see a

I would totally love to see a TEF Christmas Carol! Brilliant!

Edit: An old idea I have - I've thought for some time about writing about some kind of Yuletide "meaning of Christmas" featuring Yorres deer-centric interpretation of the nativity, after a fawn asks him about the crucifix at the Ename Ruins.
Pegasicorn's picture

A Christmas Carol sounds

A Christmas Carol sounds epic. =D
Wonder if Alecsander would let you use Furfur as one of the ghosts, since Furfur is a ghost...
quadraptor's picture

Looks like I'll definitely be

Looks like I'll definitely be doing the Christmas Carol story. I'll need four spirits I think, looks like we have two at least, and I'll need to decide who should be our 'Scrooge'.

Something else I thought about doing for this would be a 12 stories of Christmas thing, which would mean I'd be writing like crazy but I've done that before. Don't know if I'll follow through with that but it would be interesting to see what other kinds of stories are suggested.

Thanks for the help, guys!

IoRez - That sounds like a wonderful story! I'd read it if you wrote it!
trigger_mortis's picture

D: Tera totally snuck that

D: Tera totally snuck that out of my mind! Seriously though, I love that idea, though perhaps to make it more inclusive, you could have different ghosts visit different characters?

As another idea, perhaps you could give an idea of an endless forest Santa visiting on Christmas eve, a bit in the style of Twas the night before Christmas? I'm sure to many forest deer the phenomenon would be quite incredible!

Anyway, I really look forward to seeing the results! this sounds like it's going to be great Quad!
quadraptor's picture

Haha, that's a thought, since

Haha, that's a thought, since the Forest DOES have it's share of scrooges! I'll consider that, although trying to tie it together may be a little tricky.

And the Endless Forest Santa idea is cool too! I have a funny idea for that, but I don't want to spoil it. *adds to the list*

Thanks for the input, Trigger!

sounds cool with the xmas

sounds cool with the xmas carol story thing xD

i'll be happy to sign The Creature in for one of the spirit roles ^^
picture of her here ^^
creatures bio - WIP, at spiritbones profile Smiling spiritbone is my other account ^^ creatures bio is not done yet, i havent started yet -.-' but it'll soon be finished or, atleast worked on ^^


maybe she could be the spirit of the future , since it looks like this in the original story ^^
it could be very cool ^^


- Danny2610


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quadraptor's picture

@Trigger - I think I'd rather

@Trigger - I think I'd rather keep it to one scrooge for the story, only because it might be kind of complicated having more than one character for that role. However, since I plan to write a bunch of stories now, they can feature/include more TEF characters so everyone can have a chance to be part of at least one story.

Of course I don't want this to be an "open slots and write one story for one character" kind of a thing, I'd rather it be more like "Let's take this theme and see who we can include into it". So I'd rather base the stories around a theme instead of individual characters, if that makes sense.

@Danny - I'll reserve the Ghost of Christmas Future for her, thanks!

@Everyone - Trying to decide if we need to include a Jacob Marley kind of a character, or if we should just stick to the Past, Present, and Future ghosts for the story. Also would it be selfish if I reserved the Ghost of Christmas Past role for my Trunks?

Do you know what else would be neat for this...what if anyone else who writes a story has it added to the collection? It would be a lot like my Forest Fables event. And anyone can add a story to add to the Christmas cheer!

Past, Present, and Future

Past, Present, and Future ghosts sound a bit more involving...







*goes away*

no no no dont thank me, its

no no no dont thank me, its me who is thanking u xD

well i dont think its selfish if u use ur own deer for that role, since its u who is writing the story ^^
so do it^^ write trunks in the story Smiling



oh and before i forget xD i've updated creatures bio, so now there's a picture(but u cant see it unless u click the link -.-') and alot of stuff telling how she looks, who she is and so on - still working on it though ^^


Edit : oh and the jacob Marley thing sounds cool, if u want, u can write a character(?) like that in to Smiling


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quadraptor's picture

cool! Alright, one more

cool!

Alright, one more question for everyone - would you care if I got to work on a story or two now? I know it's still November but you can always read it in December if you'd like.

I'd start with the two I came up with and by that time maybe we'll have enough characters for the Christmas Carol and Night Before Christmas stories. And hopefully there will be both more story ideas and stories written by others.

One more thing, I want to name this whole thing "The 12 ______ of Christmas" but replace "days" with something deer or forest related. Any suggestions for that?

The 12 DEERS of christmas xD

The 12 DEERS of christmas xD
cant come up with anything else -.-'
u can always start working on it, and wait to december before posting it Smiling
i know myself enough to know that i cant wait to read it if it already posted Sticking out tongue

oh , and if u still needs some deer characters(?) to the stories, my deers
Raigho
and...
no name yet xD

would like to be writen(?) in aswell , but i will give others a chance to sign in, so only if u are short on deers xD


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eyestrain's picture

There are enough flying deer

There are enough flying deer in the forest it would be easy to write a Rudolph-type story, with the pictogram of the outcast deer being the beacon through the fog (in place of Rudolph's nose).

My personal request is for some piece of writing that is inspired by The Carol of the Bells, which is my favorite holiday song.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
quadraptor's picture

Danny - I think I will get

Danny - I think I will get started on them. And thanks for offering your deer, I appreciate it!

Eye - You got it! I'll personally write the Carol of the Bells story for you because I feel like you deserve some recognition for your awesome art skills. I'll consider a Rudolph story too, since it could include 9 deer.

Edit:

Already got one story written, but it won't be posted until December 1st. Also character slots for the stories suggested are available now! Also I think I want to name this collection "Tales from the Holly Tree". What do you think?
eyestrain's picture

Thank you very much,

Thank you very much, Quad.

Maybe. How about, "Holly on the Old Oak"?
I think whatever you decide will be good.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
quadraptor's picture

Hmm! That's an idea!

Hmm! That's an idea! Actually, I really like that! *goes to change the topic again*

Let's get a vote then! I like both, really!

Which sounds better? "Holly on the Old Oak" or "Tales from the Holly Tree"?
trigger_mortis's picture

Mmmm, I really like both, but

Mmmm, I really like both, but I think Holly on the Old Oak speaks just a little louder to me. Smiling

These sound like wonderful ideas Quad! I can't wait to read them, it'll be a great way to bring the holiday spirit to the community!
quadraptor's picture

I'll go with that title,

I'll go with that title, then. It seems to make a little more sense since we don't have a holly tree in the Endless Forest.

I've gotten one story written so far, it's kind of funny and irritating not to be able to show it off until December. Oh well XD

Anyway, I hate to volunteer deer to play roles in the story, but I really would like Walter to be our Scrooge. I know his character well enough, so I may bug Verdalas about using him for the role. I need to ask Alecsander about using Furfur as one of the spirits too.
PLK217's picture

Actually, the 'Holly on the

Actually, the 'Holly on the Old Oak' caught my eye.

And if you search for suggestions, I have an idea. It is a little based on my otherwise poor patriotism.
What about a story based on the Good King Wenceslas carol?

no prob

no prob Smiling


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quadraptor's picture

PLK - Thanks for the

PLK - Thanks for the suggestion! I can totally work with that!
Pegasicorn's picture

WALTER! XDD I was tempted to

WALTER! XDD I was tempted to say he should be Scrooge.
quadraptor's picture

I left Verdy a message about

I left Verdy a message about it. If not Walter, do we have an alternative Scrooge?
Zergarikiaka's picture

83 *waves* Feel free to use

83

*waves*
Feel free to use my Mar Sart and/or Zergarikiaka if you need a friendly/curious/nice deer. :3
Mar would probably work best, since he's not ridiculously hyper. XD;
He hasn't seen much in the way of art or writing lately anyway. <3

Another idea could be kind of a deer take on the Nativity Story. Stargazing wisedeer (probably Mar, Yorres, and Mystress) could go out and find a newborn fawn under the guidance of a star.
quadraptor's picture

You know what, I was actually

You know what, I was actually thinking about writing a story like the Nativity story, so I could totally write something like it. I guess I'd need to find a pregnant doe and her stag (stares at Kaoori and Wesker).

Sure, I'll add that to the list, and thanks for offering your deer for this!
Snowsauria's picture

I have a very curious little

I have a very curious little deer, Snow, that you can use if you want to. n_n
Either way, I look forward to read these stories! :'D
Pegasicorn's picture

If you can't get any other

If you can't get any other deer to be ghosts, I'm going to shove Toukan at you since he can make himself like a ghost with his "spiriting" trick.
quadraptor's picture

@ PLK - do you mind if I use

@ PLK - do you mind if I use both of your deer for the Good King Wenceslas story? I was thinking Silun could represent the King and Foxbrow could be the page/poor deer, if that works. If there are any constraints with the characters, I can look for someone else to fill one or both of the roles. But since you suggested it, I wanted to use your characters for it.

@Snowsauria - Thanks!!

@ Pega - I put Toukan down to be Marley's Ghost. I need to see if Furfur is available to be the Ghost of Christmas Present, gonna do that now actually...

Ahhh oh my god. A Christmas

Ahhh oh my god. A Christmas Carol is my FAVORITE STORY EVER. Okay!! Oh my god, Mystress would be all too glad to play the part of The Ghost of Christmas Present, like you have no idea. If you need help with dialogue for what she might say or any other questions regarding writing, please drop me a line on MSN I'm on daily. (:

edit: I didn't see your comment above, sorry Quad if you have someone else in mind please go ahead!! <3 <3
edit, edit: Feel free to use Mystress in the other story instead-- I really need to read first. Lmao, I got too excited.
Zergarikiaka's picture

OHOHOHOH If you need another

OHOHOHOH If you need another ghost, you can also use my Laghodessa, too. XD;
She could be a good Ghost of Christmas Past OR Future. XD Whichever you'd like.
And, y'know... she's a ghost, christmas story or not, so reasonable candidate. XD
quadraptor's picture

CM - Alrighty, we got our

CM - Alrighty, we got our last ghost then!

Zerg - I've got those roles filled, sorry. But I can use her for another story, OR maybe Pega might let her play the role of Marley's Ghost instead of Toukan. I'll let you guys decide on that. I'll put her as that role if that's alright.
PLK217's picture

You made me get up of my

You made me get up of my chair. Literally.
But if you are in the need of characters, then I surly won't mind. (Honestly, I was thinking a little bit how would Silun look like the Good King). So I am honored if you want to use him, yet I don't think Foxbrow would fit in there. She is, as I call her myself, a 'ginger gigglet'. And besides, There never was any connection between her and Silun. They don't know each other. If you want, you may use her in another story (a mischievous little elf or something like that would be the best for her.)
I wish I could help you by suggesting someone. At least for this writing but since Silun is so secluded... Only deer that came to my mind, who is in a relation to Silun, is LaRuna.
So, hope I helped a little and thank you.
quadraptor's picture

Laruna is one of my oldest

Laruna is one of my oldest friends here, so I'll surprise her by adding her into the story! Thank you for the suggestion!

I'm more than happy to write the story, actually! I might not get the interpretation of the carol right, but I'm going to try and make the story similar to what happens in the carol.

(Shh...don't tell Laruna though) XD

Any fawns want to be Tiny Tim for the Christmas Carol story? That's the last role I need to start writing it!
trigger_mortis's picture

The fawn is actually in the

The fawn is actually in the process of being born, but I might volunteer Night Shade and Asaroth's fawn as a Tiny Tim, as it is premature and of course, remarkably small. Smiling
Kaoori's picture

ROFL I just noticed you

ROFL I just noticed you mentioned Kaoori and Wesker for a nativity story and I choked.. xD;

either way, I"d love to see what you guys come up with.
quadraptor's picture

Trigger - Sure, just let me

Trigger - Sure, just let me know!

Kaoori - Haha just an idea, I know Kaoori has one in the oven anyway. If it's alright to use her and Wesker, I think it would turn out great anyway Eye
quadraptor's picture

I had started working on

I had started working on PLK's request last night, and looking over the lyrics to the carol, I just realized that I didn't understand what was going on until now. There's not two characters, there's three - the king, a page, and a peasant. I was thinking the page and peasant were the same person, and didn't understand that the king is giving a feast to the poor man.

I didn't get far into writing it, but I just need to change a few things around, and if nobody objects, I'll have one of my deer be the peasant. Eye

I'd love to be one of the

I'd love to be one of the deer in the rudolf story, or I could also be the fawn, tiny tim
quadraptor's picture

Cool! Let me see about

Cool! Let me see about Trigger's fawn real quick, I might have Tiny Tim already taken but if not you can certainly be one of the deer for Rudolph.

@Trigger - Are you alright if I let Two take the Tiny Tim role?
eyestrain's picture

You may use brd wherever he

You may use brd wherever he might fit.

I didn't notice you had decided to feature him in the Carol of the Bells story you will write. It's alright if you don't use him more than that, I don't mind either way.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
trigger_mortis's picture

Of course! ^^ It would've

Of course! ^^ It would've been up to Firedance/Kita anyway, so that's perfectly fine with me. Smiling
quadraptor's picture

Alright cool! Two, which

Alright cool! Two, which fawn would you like to be Tiny Tim? It doesn't necessarily have to be male.

Eye, thanks! And since you suggested that story, I want to include Brd in it Eye

Also I've gotten two stories written so far, going to write my other one next (random christmas ornament on a tree in the Endless Forest one), and I've decided that Toukan will be the main character in it. I need two or three more deer to appear in it, not sure who yet but I might pick some characters myself to appear in it. Eye
Kaoori's picture

You're more than welcome to

You're more than welcome to use Kaoori, and I'm sure it won't be a problem if you use Wesker. Smiling If it isn't I'll let you know, but I'm sure it's not. xD


Also: your icon hypnotizes me. i keep staring at it.
quadraptor's picture

Thanks! Kao and Wesker were

Thanks! Kao and Wesker were the first two that came in mind for the roles of Mary and Joseph in the story. And Pega made that icon for me, it's so funny because Quad's totally like that!

Another update - I added another story idea of mine, and I need two important characters for it - a deer who is a reject, lonely, and/or hated, and a sweet and kind fawn. I could also use a few deer to be insulting toward the main character.

Lastly, I don't want this to be strictly for writing, so if anyone does any christmas artwork, it can be listed with the writing too.

Got the third story written now, not sure which one to write next...maybe the Carol of the Bells one, or maybe the nativity one...
eyestrain's picture

Keep at it.

Keep at it.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Chickenwhite's picture

This sounds like such a great

This sounds like such a great idea! And for that Rudolph-story, I've got Raleigh, he flies and he's a jerk: perfect for the story, amirite? I'll post a link to his bio if you need it, though I think I've pestered you with him already XD;;

And since Christmas is also the holiday for ghosts and the past in general, how about a ghost-story with a Christmas-y theme? Like... Someone meets a strangely blue and cold fawn in the forest and warms it, shows it the spirit of Christmas by sharing what little food can be found in the deep snow and it turns out to be a lost spirit who can now find its way thanks to the help of the stranger~
...
I'm not obsessed with the morbid, shush!
quadraptor's picture

Oh that idea is wonderful! I

Oh that idea is wonderful! I can totally work with it! Thank you!

I've got it added to the list, and like the others, don't be surprised if it features one of your deer. I feel like it's fair to include a deer from the person who suggests a story.

I've got Raleigh up as one of the Rudolph reindeer. I need to look over the comments on here again and see who else wanted to be in that story.

Also Two, if you're reading this, which fawn did you want to be Tiny Tim in the Christmas Carol story?

Something else, I might go ahead and post up an official entry that would explain this event, that I would link to the stories when I post them. If I get it up now (or in the next few days), those who write or do art toward it can know what's going on and get a head start on it. It will be December 1st when I post all the stories I've gotten written so far, and after that, I'll post the ones I get written next. The only reason why I'm doing that is because it's not technically the Christmas season yet, so I don't want to jump right into it this early like department stores do, you know?


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Okay, so my goal for today will be to write both Eyestrain's and Chickenwhite's stories (or at least get started on them). I think I have some really good ideas for both of them Eye

Also, I kind of realized that the third story I came up with may be too similar to basically the Christmas Carol one and the last one combined, so I may remove that one and think of something different instead. Not sure yet, but I don't intend for these stories to have the same theme anyway.

Maybe I can just write one with a vivid description of a Christmas setting much like my Return to Nature stories...

I just had an idea, actually. What about a story where a fawn gets to celebrate Christmas much like how a child would? What would Christmas Morning be like for a fawn? What kind of presents would they get? What kind of meal would they have with their family? What would deer do to celebrate?
Halafax's picture

CW - Morbid-y Christmas

CW - Morbid-y Christmas things reminded me of a book that we were read in preschool called "The Little Match Girl". A little girl lights the matches she is supposed to be selling on Christmas and with each match she has a vision of happiness but then the match burns out and she is left with the grim reality that she is cold and hungry and all alone on the street. Her last vision is her grandmother coming to get her and such a vision fills the child with joy.
Then you learn the little girl died.
It just really emphasizes the importance of family and the spirit of giving of the holidays. It is also terribly sad.

Quad - I can't wait to read these stories! Feel free to use Halafax if you need an extra deer. She might work as the 'oddball' deer in the Rudolph-themed story with her four ears and difficulty speaking/hearing. She can't really fly but maybe if she ate enough mushrooms...just kidding. You don't have to use her. |D
quadraptor's picture

Oh awesome! Thank you! I

Oh awesome! Thank you!

I think she'd fit perfectly as the 'oddball', maybe all the other deer can fly and she has a hard time with it. It's supposed to be a somewhat unrealistic story anyway Eye

And she needs to try some of Quad's 16-bean soup. It's notorious for atomic farts XD