Hey guys, here is the e-mails and responses from me to Michael and Auriea on the events that went on. I thought you should know, especially those of you who use CSS.
Here's what you'll need to know:
"We have disabled css (and all HTML) on any new posts. People will have to use BBCODE to style new posts. Old posts with html/css will continue to exist so long as the user doesn't edit and save. Same goes for embeded videos. We may turn this stuff back on if there is no further problem."
So don't edit your CSS blogs for a while until Michael and Auriea decide to put CSS back up, or else you'll lose it. Your CSS will stop working if you edit your blog now. It will be a good idea to save your code, too.
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The full chain of e-mails -
Hi Chris,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Two others did the same.
We have blocked Caturday's account and are looking into disabling CSS,
which should remove the possibility to white-out pages. Apparently,
humans cannot be trusted with this technology and need to be oppressed.
Oh well.
Thank you for your concern,
Michael Samyn & Auriea Harvey.
Tale of Tales
Hi Chris,
We have disabled css (and all HTML) on any new posts. People will have to use BBCODE to style new posts. Old posts with html/css will continue to exist so long as the user doesn't edit and save. Same goes for embeded videos. We may turn this stuff back on if there is no further problem.
We've fixed anything "whited out" that we could find. The script you sent, while a good temporary band-aid, won't really solve the problem. If you run into things that are still whited out let us know as there is no way for us to search for individual instances.
thanks again for your help and support of TEF!
Auriea & Michael
so, no offense but somehow I
I don't find that fair.
Thanks a lot, Quad.. This is
Hope you're happy now, caturday.
No one should blame you, Quad, or anyone who got their blogs whited out.
Most people weren't even
I don't know what to tell
^ What Kimi said. And also,
And also, I'm a huge update person. I don't like the fact that I have to hold out for god knows how long (Most likely this will be a few months) just so I can see how everyone is doing.
I can understand their reasoning, but it just seems like a bigger hassle. =/
And so the TEFc goes into
I agree that the deletion of OP-CSS was not necessary. They could've fixed white-out without touching the other things.
For those with update blogs, we can update in comments, or create a temporary update-blog.
I'm not mad at anyone. I'm
Kimi, I am not cross with you
If anyone dares to get upset with you, they need to grow up.
Kaoori, noone will be mad at
Sigh...blame me if you have to. I was the one who contacted M&A, and was only trying to help.
They said it was temporary anyway.
Kaoori, hun, it's not your
Kaoori, this is definitely
Nor is it yours, Quad. You did the right thing by contacting them. If you hadn't, who knows what damage Caturday could have done to TEFc. It was a good thing someone reported it early before it did happen and M&A actually did decide to shut this place down.
Ugh, this sucks. Maybe this
Maybe this is where, “Play nice and just ignore those folks that wish to cause problems,” comes in. Things never would have escalated to such an extent if that’s what we had done to begin with.
I had a client who complained about the neighbor’s dogs to animal control. Animal control came and investigated the neighbor and fined them for not licensing their dogs. They also fined my client who also happened to have unlicensed dogs. In fact they fined a lot of people in the neighborhood.
So maybe next time, we can all just be adults and not go running to the “Policía” who will only come and wreck all our houses.
I thought things were getting nicely taken care of on our own. Now the whole community has been punished.
No, noone's mad at you Kim or
Unplugged, have you thought about emailing them with said solution? Perhaps they don't know of it, I think they mentioned before they're pretty unfamilair with this type of forum/code?
As everyone else has said, it
I adore you hun, even though we don't talk much or do anything at all (Heh) and you shouldn't beat yourself up on such a matter as this. I am just hoping that M&A disabled all access for the person in question, and not just the one account.
"Your efforts are insignificant! I carry you to your deaths!"
What about if users with
This event reminds me all the
As for the updating or adding information in comments when it comes to people who have blogs with css (the majority of members here) still intact, I recommend that. It actually would seem kind of nice. As for keeping up on updates and stuff between characters, well...there's rp blogs for that. And bios.
I tried to calm the situation
Just remember that for every one person like Caturday, there's ten people who are good and moral.
Hmm. I just made a test
... css is not really diabled for now, is it?
Since... it still worked.
(too lazy to change accounts now. Alice here |D )
Hey, just wanted to say I’m
But from what I can see in this sites and the forum’s history, when somebody causes problems, the game creator’s reaction is usually just to shut everything down. From their point of view, I get this, they have other things going on and babysitting and moderating are not top on their list. If I was running a free game and people where being annoying, I’d yank the rug on them too.
And I second Alice, I was just fiddling with Woden's blog before I saw this and it's still working okay.
Maybe we'll get lucky and the Gods will be too busy/distracted to punish us.
Quote:Unplugged, have you
Quad has included it in his messages, yes. M&A are right though when they say it's a "good temporary band-aid, but will not really solve the problem". It's just a workaround that is easy to dodge, especially if you know what you're doing.
I'm glad Caturday is gone. I
I don't need css on my update blog, and I'll just avoid editing the bios for a while.
I'm just glad something was done about this troll. Thanks Quad, and others that sent an e-mail to M&A. n__n
And Alice is right, the css seem to be working still.
Personally, I'm conflictedly
I feel like I could laugh and flip out at someone all in one go.
Way to go guys.
Bravo, as I've said. Braaaavo.
Now the entire community has to suffer for the select few's very negligent choices.
...besides that i forgott to
I totally understand this reaction and it was quite clear to me that this would happen.
If i where in their position... i would have done the same.
I third what Sight and Alice
"Your efforts are insignificant! I carry you to your deaths!"
I find it really sad how such
Now we're all paying for it. Once again.
-sigh-
well, if css still works now,
Yeah, CSS still seems to be
I’m hoping maybe the gods don’t actually know how to disable CSS from the forum and will instead find something shiny to distract themselves and once again leave us to our own devices.
*Hoping, hoping, hoping*
I wonder if they're in the
or if they're not too talented at disabling something..
*knocks on wood to prevent bad luck*
Nice one Caturday, look what
I can live without CSS, it just saddens me that others have been affected by it, even though they've done nothing wrong.
I'm just glad Cat has been banned. Thank you M&A.
I guess it may be a little
byyyy the way. Wouldn't it
Wouldn't it be a litte more... 'fairer' to disable the css just for comments.... and not for blogs as well?
That would prevent from whiteout, too...
I've suggested that too,
Oh, that's a really good
The Policía, they are
The Policía, they are not your friend.
My husband and I honeymooned in Mexico. We were driving a rental car to the airport to fly home when we were pulled over by the Policía. He had pulled us over for having bags in the back window. Yeah, okay. The fact that we were white was more likely the reason. He then proceeded to confiscate my husband’s drivers license and told us that unless we paid him $250 cash dollars he would not give it back. We were scared and shocked. I was terrified, he was going to throw my husband into a Mexican jail, and everyone knows what happens then. We managed to pull together $50 dollars, gave him that and he was satisfied. Of course he didn’t write us any kind of official ticket or receipt. He was robbing us after all. Not conducting “official” business.
And that my friends, is why you shouldn’t trust the Policía.
But my real point is that I am just an old paranoid hippie and if I we can deal with something ourselves, we should.
oh.. okay... sorry then
It completely sucks that we
Hm. Don't worry Kimi. This
Don't worry Kimi. This isn't about you, anyway.
I agree with you Alice - it would make more sense to just disable css in the reply boxes. That is what the problem is; I wonder if doing that is possible. It is certainly a more plausible thing to do.
TEF makes M&A no money, so I'm not surprised they act rashly when it comes to the TEFc "problems".
I discussed this privately
hmm... i notice the new text
i notice the new text at the bottom of the messages now. did they just change comments or should i still keep my hands from updating my blogs?
^ This.
This.
At least Caturday got what he
I'm assuming that this has
Bummer.
D: Darn. Guess I can't go
Guess I can't go updating bios anymore.
Thank you very much, SHL.
It's sad, but...I think we all saw something like this coming. I'm kind of surprised it didn't happen the first time this happened. Hmm...we'll see.
Hm, I just updated the
I hope this is temporary...
Wow I suppose I shoudn't be
I suppose I shoudn't be shocked that some one would evntually do this.After trolls are trolls.
Even though I am unaware of who's blogs were whited out{assumming Koorie?}.This event is sad however we will live,we have the community still and they didn't sound like they would ban css forever.
It sucks it's true I sorry for those who were targetted in this mess.I consider Css another form of art since it's another way to express our characters,but like I said we still have the comunnity.
Quad,you were only looking out for us,so why should we be mad at you?
I guess I will have to resort to other means in updating my character for now.But this is a small price to pay to keep the community and all the friends we have on here.
Please let my words shed a positive light on the sitution my friends.
Trolls: 1 TEF: 0 {Matthieu
TEF: 0
{Matthieu here, too lazy to switch accounts}
I can't believe one person
It's quite saddening to see that even a community like this one get targeted by trolls.
Well, I will take the opportunity right now to say that all of you managed to create something awesome with this community, with the internet swarming with "3#X{#@!, its nice to know they're still a place like this one.
So....
Massive hug everyone!
Hope everything will be quickly put back into order!!
hmph. This is disappointing.
This is disappointing.
That's all I can say on the subject.
(thanks, starling! The avatar is amazing! And Thanks Pretzil for the siggie!