I've always wanted a cat. They're just adorable and they steal my heart away as soon as I just look at them!
But today I discovered another beautiful animal. One which is ten times cheaper and just as enchanting, if you let it; The corn snake. It was after I'd gone shopping and I though, what the hell, why not go oggle at the animals in the shop just next door to the super market? It can't hurt, right? How wrong I was. There I met a salesman who had snakes himself and who let me hold the little pink beauties, one of which almost crawled into my sleeve because it was warm and soft. My God, I was sold. I've always admired snakes for the sheer magnificence of their being, but never before had I considered one as a pet. Well, today was the day a scaled little critter rocked my world. She was absolutely beautiful, a little albino, active and full of energy, not to mention an amazing strength in her thin, sleek body. Dear God, this is starting to sound like a bad fan fiction. Anyways, now I really can't decide... Should I get a cat, which I've always wanted ever since my childhood, or a snake who would be much more inexpensive and would allow me to go away for the weekend to see my parents?... I feel like a little leaf between two strong winds, all torn and tugged at from both sides T__T
Why? Why must you tease me so, animal kingdom?...
I decided on a cat! Say hello to Francoeur, my lovely little purring fleabag who talks in his sleep~
I got him from a friend who had him and a younger female, but her apartment was too small for two very active cats... so we agreed that I'd get this lovely little teen~ He's much calmer at my place and, as you can see, already acts like he owns me and the entire apartment. Not gonna argue that he doesn't XD
That's a really tough choice.
I think if I made the choice, I'd tell you to go with the snake, because it seems like it would make your life a little less complicated for a pet, but it's really up to you to choose. Let us know what you decide
I've had three snakes and
Cat can always be taught to come around with you if you're going off to see your parents (if they aren't allergic). My Ragdoll comes with me everywhere and it's great company. Snakes can be left alone for days because they eat once in two weeks, about. Keep in mind that corn snakes might live longer than cats, about 10-20 years.
Myself I'm more into cats because of their amount of personality, but snakes are very beautiful and interesting beings themselves. I have both at the moment and I love them to bits. :B
I had a cat when I was
Having raised Monty, my python, since he was a hatchling, though, I can say that snakes do make for nice pets. They won't love you like a cat might, but they most certainly do have personalities! Besides, I'd like to at least think that Monty enjoys my company at times, even if it's just a matter of being warm in my pocket. A proper setup (tank, heat source, humidity, etc.) may take some time and money, but once that's set up, it's just a matter of feeding them every week and cleaning their tank when necessary.
Size might prove to be an issue, though, as corn snakes can grow to be almost six feet in length. That doesn't mean that they will, but they can. I would recommend handling them often, too, as your snake would grow used to being picked up and perhaps come to expect and tolerate it quickly. There's nothing worse than a big bitey corn. XD
Also, while I'm rambling, something that I have found to be useful is to feed the snake outside of its tank, so that it does not come to associate a hand coming into its tank with food. (I have never once been bitten by any snake). I would also go with frozen-thawed mice as food and try to purchase a captive bred individual. Reptile shows are a great place to purchase herps and you will be amazed at all of the different color morphs that are available.
I'm not trying to sway you to the snake side, just trying to offer some thoughts on the matter. Best of luck with your decision whatever it may be!
@Quad: Yeah, I'm getting more
@Narina: Thank you so much, that's really some sound advice you got there! >w< I think I might go for the cat, then, judging from your experience >w< After all, I'm looking for a companion rather than a hobby...
@Kaoori: Oh, I know all that, the guy at the store was very knowledgeable about the subject, plus he's handled the snakes in there every day he was at work, so they were already used to being picked up and the like... There was only one python who was a bit of a prima donna, the corns were all very docile and calm about the whole thing >w< And since they're having a sale, I can get the whole thing - snake, dwelling, lamps and some food too - for 2000 DKK, which isn't very much at all >w< divide it by 5 or 7 or something to get it in US dollars, I'm no good at maths TwT;;
And I gotta say, I connected quite a bit with the one trying to crawl into my sleeve, so I'm really, really tempted to buy that little beauty TwT
I'm currently the owner of
1. Am I going to have the room for this?
As Scythe said, corn snakes can get up to six feet long. It's rare, but it's possible. While they don't get as BULKY as pythons do, corn snakes can definitely take up space, if you let them. Their length is often due to the size of the enclosure they're in. Put them in something super big? They'll have the space to grow.
2. Am I willing to have this animal for the next 10+ years?
Some breeds of snakes can live to be 30 years old. I don't think cornsnakes live THAT long - but 15-20 years is possible.
3. Am I willing to feed this animal other animals?
While some snakes will eat pre-frozen/killed food, some WILL. NOT. Some snakes won't touch a pre-killed animal. So you're going to have to toss cute, adorable small mice into an enclosure and watch as a snake suffocates it and then swallows it whole. When it gets older? You'll have to give it more than one cute, adorable, fuzzy mouse, no less. Are you sure you're capable of watching that? Because you can't toss a live mouse into a snake's enclosure and walk away and come back in a few minutes. You *have* to keep an eye on the mouse. They can, and will, bite and/or hurt your snake.
If your snakes ARE willing to eat/frozen thawed, that's great. Which means you're going to have to keep mice in your freezer or, if your pet-store sells them(Mine does, but I don't know that all will), you can buy them individually there, and then take them home and put them in warm water until they're NOT frozen. It's...messy, at times, and it can be a bit gross, if you're not willing to deal with that sort of thing.
4. Do I have the money to take care of a snake?
Snakes, as I said, have certain needs. They need a suitable enclosure(which, admittedly, can be bought for relatively cheap), they need the proper heating, plus a thermostat to CONTROL that heating. They needs hides to feel safe in, and either newspaper and/or some type of proper bedding. I use newspaper and aspen shavings for my cornsnakes. Heating elements(I use under tank heaters, and I find these work better than lamps, as they provide more even heat; not to mention with turning on/off of lamps due to thermostats to be distracting if it's in my room) aren't always cheap, especially as they get bigger to accomodate bigger snakes. I'm not saying they're SUPER expensive, but it's something you need to keep in mind.
You'll also have to buy mice once a week. Said mice will get bigger as your snake gets bigger, and the bigger they are, the more expensive they get.
5. Is everyone in the house going to be cool with this?
If you've got parents and/or siblings and/or significant others that don't like snakes? This can put a damper on things. I couldn't buy a snake at all until after I'd moved out of my mom's house.
If you answer no to ANY of these questions? Do not get a snake. I know they're pretty and fascinating to watch, but just because they have scales and aren't furry doesn't mean they don't deserve the same care as any other animal. I can't count how many times I've read about people thinking that snakes are awesome pets to have, and then realize that they can't care for them, or didn't expect them to get that big, or didn't expect them to live that long, and the next thing you know they've let them go in their back yard and now there are snakes everywhere.
If you're still thinking about it, please, do as much research as you can about them before you buy a snake. I researched for nearly a year before finally going ahead and buying my first ball python. I would recommend going here and reading all of that. All of it. And then move to the next FAQ. I also would honestly recommend you not buy from a pet store. More often than not, snakes at pet stores are not well cared for, are housed together, and very often, have mites. They often tend to be very, VERY overpriced. If you do want to get a snake, try to find a reputable breeder in your area. They'll have well-cared for snakes, and they may have color morphs to choose from, like mine.
I'd just like to second some
I'm also going to second aspen bedding and under tank heaters. Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure that corns don't even bask, so not only would an under tank heater generate more than enough heat for the hot side of the tank, but it'd spare you the trouble of maintaining a light source and eliminate the risk of burning your snake. Stay the heck away from hot rocks, too. XD
As for food, I'm still a firm believer in frozen-thawed prey items and most breeders will raise their snakes on this. Wherever you get your snake, I would suggest asking for a demonstration to see how and what it eats. Corn snakes don't constrict; they just strike and swallow as far as I know. However, in any instance, some snakes may refuse their current diet for whatever reason at some point in their life. Gerbils are sometimes a tasty alternative and can stimulate feeding again, at least with pythons. If your snake must eat live food, just make sure that you watch them, as L said. I've seen a lot of snakes in pet stores with bite marks from mice that fought back.
And yes, do make sure that everyone in your house is accepting of your pet. My mother and I butted heads for a good year before she finally accepted Monty as a member of the household. XD
On feeding: corns do
Scythe is right, though - snakes can be picky eaters. BPs are notorious for going months without eating - but you still have to always buy them food, in case they decide to change their minds. Which means you may have to dispose of frozen and/or live mice. Now, with the live ones, you could, in theory, just put them in a seperate enclosure and then feed them until the next week - but the second you do that, you might get attached to it, and then you can't bring yourself to feed it to the snake.
Yes. This DOES happen.
As for the heat issue, Scythe's right. Cornsnakes don't bask, per se, but there does need to be a gradient heat for them, 77-83is on the 'warm' side, and about 73-75 on the 'cool' side. This is easily do-able with one under tank heater(UTH) pad.
Thank you very much for all
But thank you very, very much for the advice, it really helps me put things into perspective and help me decide too TwT
Oh, and I read the entire post and found that everything in there was something the guy at the shop had already told me, except the part about keeping multiple corns in the same cage.
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Wow, I never expected so much good advice! >w< Thank you too, Scythe, I really appreciate it! >w<
Just wanted to add that it is, in fact, a small store, they mostly specialize in fish, but have reptiles and some rodents as well, namely mice, hamsters and rats once in a while. I'm gonna go shopping for some juice tomorrow, so I think I'll drop by and ask them where they get their snakes, just to be on the safe side. Thank you very much for helping me out like this, all of this is really helping me make up my mind >w< You guys rock! >w<
On one hand, you can play
I'm not so familiar with snakes, but this is what I've heard.
You can only hold them for so long, you have to watch them and make sure everything is safe if you let them explore. They're prone to get some kind of mites that I've heard is hard to treat. You have to invest in heat rocks, and lamps, the bulbs go out a lot and aren't very cheap.
Such decisions go quite to my
I myself never had a snake, but cats. Still have. Two. And I must admit, cats are a very good choice if you look for a companion, someone to cheer you up, sometime to live beside you. I prefer cats even to dogs. Why? Well, a cat needs waaaaay less time. And schooling. A dog you have to raise, train, and walk with. Every day. Not that I don't love my dog, nonono. But you know how it is. Sometimes, we all wish for the day to have 48 hours. And a cat... a cat is there, a cat you can touch, a cat can also be on it's own, though. Especially when taking in two cats. Plus, cats are so different in character. Depending on what race you choose, you can get so different companions. Siamese, for example, are known to actually 'talk' - yes, their meowing is indeed a kind of a language. They do that a lot, too. Sheesh, you don't even have to go by race, but by cats themselves. Any cat has a unique personality.
As I said, I never had a snake, but I do know that a relationship is entirely different. I do not dare to elaborate differences here, since anyone experiences such things differently. I myself know that if you do look for a companion, go for the cat. Consider your choice well, because different cats demand different levels of tending to. My two cats for example can only be stroked if they want to, otherwise they just run away. Okay, sometimes they settle down, but well. Sometimes. And sometimes they make clear they got better things to do. As for the time required, again, it varies. Fortunately, I live in a quite calm town with much free space. Hence my cats can go out as well, so the task of cleaning is not as much needed as it would be if they only lived inside the house. Don't know about your circumstances - do know that once you let your cat out, it lives more dangerous, of course. On the other hand, it enjoys a lot of freedom. So that's a rather personal question. Again, it also depends on your cat. Like I said, I own two. One loves to be outside, the other... well. "Oh look, it rains. Staying inside. Oh look, it's cold. Forget it. Oh look, too hot. Nah, will be in my cellar.", and so on.
All in all, those are my experiences with cats. I probably cannot think of living without one - those small, gentle companions.
In regards to what Calinka
If you're looking for a companion? Get a cat. Get something that you can snuggle up with, something that will show you affection. While snakes do have personalities, honestly, they're not like cats - and certainly not like dogs. They won't come and jump in your lap. They won't look at you imploringly when they want attention.
Snakes are more of a hobby. A living hobby, mind you, but still a hobby. One that can become quite expensive, no less - if only because when you get one snake? You tend to want to get more. It's strange, but true - because they are easy to care for and beautiful to look at, most people who've ever REALLY owned a snake have all said they'd love to have more. I would. I'd love to have a room full of snakes, and trust me, it's hard to resist the siren's song of buying more.
But still, if you're looking for a real companion? Go with the cat.
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Oh geez. Snake bites hurt,
I'm going to try to get another ball this summer, either a piebald, a bumblebee spider, or an albino. Remind me not to name the albino Wesker should I settle on that color morph. XD
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Cat's vary in personality. Not all cats are snugglebuddies, and not all will hide throughout the day. How your cat acts largely depends on their experiances. Now, I've had both my cats since birth, so they're very much accustomed to people and will happily spend time near them. However, I've known cats who were afraid of sunlight, who would charge people and bite them simply for being in the same room. And, unfortunately, it's very difficult to tell what kind of cat is in front of you if you're only with them a short time. (For example, at a pet store.)
So while I'm not saying you should necessarily go with a young cat, I am saying you shouldn't expect to come home with a loving ball of fluff-- right away. They might warm up to you. Who knows.
Wow, you guys are really
Hmm, I gotta admit, I AM looking for more of a companion than a hobby, but I just fell so hard for that snake and when it comes to pets, I tend to judge more on personality than on species... Heck, I'd even get a spider if it clicked at me affectionately XD
But in any case, I'll be visiting the local cat-pound-thingie (it's a very professional place with "homes" all over Denmark and they neuter all the cats they get and give them the appropriate vaccines, so on so forth, VERY high-quality place) some time soon to check on the cats up for adoption, just to compare experiences with the snakes of today.
Who knows, a furred little critter might steal my heart away from the snake who got it today.
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Very good point there, Lu, and one I know very well >w< -which is why I'm going to the aforementioned pound-place called Inges Kattehjem (Inge's home for cats). They make it a business-point to know the personalities and needs of the cats they put up for adoption and they interview you to see which cat would suit you best - kinda like a cat-matchmaker XD - and which cat you could make the happiest. It's a very long process where you come and visit the cat at the pound several times before bringing it home, just to make sure the person and cat can get along and that the poor thing won't be brought back within the month.
I don't have much experience
Every cat has its own quirks and challenges, and it varies not only from breed to breed but from cat to cat. If you're looking through shelters, there are a number of things you need to look out for.
--Upper respiratory diseases come with most shelter animals. It's like putting your child in school; that many people carrying tiny variations of every pathogen imaginable is a breeding ground for all kinds of nasties. If your local shelter has a doctor on staff and good enough funding they may be able to keep such problems under control pretty well, but it's still something to be ready for. If you are lucky enough to fall in love with a cat who has only been at the shelter for a day or two, it's less likely to happen. Some of the animals who have been there longer need a lot more help, and it's hard to turn away knowing that they may never get it - but if you aren't financially and emotionally stable enough to handle all of their needs, you have to. We have new clients come in all the time and it's absolutely heartbreaking when they realize they just can't do it.
--You will probably know nothing about the animal's past if it's adopted from a shelter. You probably won't find out that he/she is a cord chewer until you get home. I've lost hundreds of dollars in computer cables and phone chargers alone to that sweet orange fellow in the picture. I've lost sandwiches and soup and stuffed animals and a number of other crazy things, too. ...But they are also very prolific bug hunters and keep me safe from the cockroaches, silverfish, and spiders <3
I just have to be willing to accept that I may be licked after they've eaten the little beasties.
--Cats can be difficult to socialize. Many cats are one-person cats and take a long time to adjust to other people (or never do). If there's a significant other in your future, a cat may get jealous. Mine generally misbehave and keep me awake when/after my fiancee visits, even though they are friendly with him. One is terrified to be in public and is barely manageable at the vet, and the other is very nervous, even though I have socialized them both since they were 3 weeks old and 6 weeks old, respectively.
Cats which have been in foster homes may have less trouble with the above situations, but it's not a guaruntee.
--Will it be indoor only, outdoor only, or indoor-outdoor?
Outdoor only cats do not usually live beyond 6 or 7 years, and many are very tragic losses. They simply disappear, or you find them flat on the road, or they get into a bad fight and don't return home until they are very ill. They may get Feline Leukemia Virus and a host of other things (intestinal worms, ear mites, etc).
Indoor-outdoor cats face the same risks, and may also bring pests (such as fleas) into your home.
Indoor-only cats tend to live much longer (12 is not uncommon, 16-18 happens a bit less frequently -- depending on how well-maintained they are and genetics). They tend to be less prone to parasites, and if they have no contact with uninfected cats, they won't get FeLV. You can decline to vaccinate against FeLV and save a little bit on annual costs for indoor cats and the vet won't fuss at you much or at all.
How many years are you willing to commit to the cat? Its entire lifetime? What plans do you have if you are, for any reason, no longer able to accomodate the cat? What if the cat becomes ill in old age? Will you be able - financially and emotionally - to treat the cat until he/she is no longer comfortable?
--Will you declaw? Do you know the process? Are you absolutely certain the cat won't bolt out the door one day? Are you comfortable knowing that if your cat escapes and gets lost, it will be unable to hunt and defend itself?
--I don't know what law requires in your country, but there will definitely be some annual costs. Here, rabies vaccines are annual or once every three years (however, the vaccine which is licensed for three years has a higher risk of causing a cancerous tumor at the injection site as opposed to the one year vaccine). FVRCPP can become a three year vaccine. FeLV is an annual vaccine. If your country allows three year vaccines, you will save some money that way, but a full annual exam can still be costly.
Will you use a monthly flea and heartworm prevention? It may not be as necessary for an indoor cat (my boys get it once every couple of months instead of every month), but an outdoor or indoor-outdoor cat will be very uncomfortable without prevention. Heartworms are not as common in cats, but are increasing in occurance. Unlike dogs, cats cannot tolerate a larger worm burden. Even one heartworm can cause a murmur or put a cat into heart failure. Here, we have fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes year-round and prevention is necessary all year. In areas where it gets very cold in the winter and such parasites aren't as common, some preventions may not be needed in the winter.
Feeding isn't too expensive unless your cat requires a prescription diet (which can be a little pricey). I use a middle-quality food (Purina) and it costs me $26 USD for about a month and a half (8lbs, feeding two cats). Weight is sometimes an issue in cats, especially if they are indoor-only. Many cats do not self-regulate well and must be meal-fed instead of free-fed.
--Hairballs. Even a shorthaired cat can get hairballs. Fortunately, if they become a problem, they're usually easily treated and prevented with mild laxatives given on a regular basis, or a hairball formula food.
--Sometimes behavioral problems, such as urinating outside the litter box, are habitual and cannot be medically explained or treated. You may have to deal with such things from time to time, and you may have to learn to co-exist with some issues.
It's a lot, and a lot can go wrong, but I wouldn't trade my boys for anything in the world. Rowan knows when I've had a long day at work and will jump in my lap and "groom" me when I'm upset. Lieutenant Dan is a little less perceptive, and has some special needs (he "ain't got no leg"), but his antics never fail to make me smile. They both love to snuggle with me at night, and they are very warm and comfortable in a cold, lonely room at night. When they're out of the house (on the rare occasion that I have to leave them at work for something), I am utterly disappointed when I walk in the door and there aren't two fuzzy faces and excitedly shaking tails to greet me. They love to be with me no matter what, and they give me someone to go home to every night. If I have to go somewhere for more than a day, they can stay at the vet's or another boarding facility, or I just have a neighbor I trust come in and give them their food. Sometimes I even take them with me.
It takes the right cat and the right person to really click. Not any cat will do. When your little friend finds you, though, you'll have someone who will love you unconditionally for the rest of his/her life.
...Oops, that wasn't supposed to be an essay. xD
It's been four years since I
We got her as a kitten when I was eight and every night of our lives she would hop into bed, purr loudly on my chest until we both got sleepy, and then quietly settle somewhere near (or on) my head.
Her personality is sour in the daylight, she's not very affectionate, won't come or play with me, and she's fat and lately throws up a lot of hairballs. She gets jealous of our younger cat and practices poor litter hygiene. It's a hassle cleaning up after her and trying to keep her from overeating. Her off-white hair gets on everything and it's impossible to leave anything lying somewhere without it becoming a blanket of hair.
But we're soul-mates, in a way. I think we have each others' eyes memorized. It's hard not having her here.
I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
@Aivilo: Wow, thank you so
I plan to have it an indoor cat, but sometimes, if I can train it to it, I'll go for a walk with it on a leash in the next-door graveyard. I had a cat when I was a kid, and he got run over so I'm really quite paranoid in that respect...
Feeding won't be a problem, as the pet store I went to sell cheap catfood in high quality and in considerably large amounts, since it's a relatively unknown brand, which specializes in quality food which isn't spiked with soy or other things, like Royal Canine and other big brands tend to do.
I'm well aware of the responsibilities that come with keeping a cat or any pet for that matter and I'm determined to stay with it for the rest of its life and love it as unconditionally as I have any of my previous pets... My God, I still miss my beloved rabbit... And he died half a year ago TwT;;
As for the medical part, the shelter offers a yearly checkup and other such things for any cat adopted from it, but I'm gonna have to ask about vaccines against rabies and heartworm, I'm not completely sure about any of that, as a matter of fact... I had dogs at my parents' place, and they hardly went to the vet at all, if not for out black lab's chronic ear-thing... And since this cat is primarily going to be an indoor-cat, I don't think the medical-bill will be too long.
But this definitely gave me some good questions to ask, thank you very much! >w< I'll be checking up with Inges Kattehjem when I pay them a visit about all of this >w<
@Eyestrain: I know the feeling, me and my rabbit used to share the same bond and if he'd been here today, I would have definitely brought him with me as I moved... All of this is just getting me even more determined to get a being to share my life with again TwT
@Aivilo: Oh, also, being on
And... B'aaww, Lieutenant Dan is the cutest most fitting name ever! XD
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Congrats on your new
Thank you! >w< And he SO is
In other words, he's just the most well-behaved cat I've ever met while still being cat enough to boss me around XD
Kitty! Nice choice of name,
Nice choice of name, haha. He's a nice-looking cat, too. My aunt has a cat who looks like him.
He's so handsome even if that