I'm curious to see where this goes...

I'm going to act exactly like Quad would, who is a pacifist. So I will be very polite, and common actions you will see me do is bowing, laughing, nodding my head, shock/surprise, and dancing. I will be completely non-aggressive.

Ah! Good to know, thanks! c8

You make a good point, but not everyone is going to feel that way. I can't say I agree with new players being ignored, but in all honesty it happens everywhere and not just TEF. I suppose it's one of those things you learn to deal with. Of course it's no fun, but even with this, it will still happen. -- Also, everyone plays the game differently, there is no right way to play it. Not trying to come off rude and actually trying to go about this delicately.

I see your point in making this. As I said I like the idea, but not so much the lists. I'm not demanding you take them down or anything; do as you please. I was only pointing out what it reminded me of.

Still interested though.

I politely believe that the naughty list could lead to very bad places. It is your right to do as you please, and I like the reasoning behind this all: to protect people from harm.

I just believe this might hurt people too.

I wish you well.

I really like this idea ♥

I personally really like Jala's idea there! Gives the same feeling without naming anybody. Of course, it's always your choice, Quad. I'm interested in where this goes, either way.

see if your cn find mors he's been playing as a nameless too. keep up the great work take care and happuy galloping.

This idea is amazing and I'm looking forward to see how it goes on c':
And I agree with you Veegamer.

^ I on the other hand think it's a good thing the list is there. As Vee said, don't be bad to nameless if you don't want to be on the bad list. (:

I'd like to see what happens, I think this is a really good idea. :>

Though, perhaps as Unplugged has said below, numbers would be better than names?

^ I agree with this too.

Definitely. ^ Well said 8D

It sounds like an interesting idea with being nameless... If you are going to lack somebody to play nameless as well, I would like to try.

But I dislike getting names up... It's like pointing at others in a bad way.

And who knows, maybe someone was mean to a nameless because... It looked like someone who just came and harrassed? It's just kinda difficult to tell each nameless apart. Not that this happens all time, but it could be a reason for shoo-ing someone away.

Oh, yeah, maybe it's just a little detail, but those who avoids/treat nameless as air is maybe because they know they will never get a relationship with them - Because this stag/nameless will/might never come again.

i was thinking about doing this exact same thing. i know sidewalk did it once. and also someone else did the 'do skull-masks' get more attention' thing. its a shame how we continue to judge people.

A project like this partially loses its observational point by being announced, and the list addition looks like imposing certain behaviour standard on the players.
The matter should better be left up to one's own conscience.

My opinion is that we should be nice to the nameless. Always.

If they behave bad to us in-game it's better to ignore them than behave bad toward them as well - it would have been different if the bad behavior came from a character that we knew was IC, or we knew the player was on the community where we could contact the player if needed to.

Snow- I couldn't help but relate how we treat namelesses to how you would treat a puppy c:

I always look at it like they are brand new players (well they are) browsing TEF for the very first time. Maybe they'll join, maybe they won't, but first impressions are important. I remember when I was a nameless, I walked up to some deer and danced with them and had a spell-spam party good times.... I joined because of the nice players that I played with when I was a nameless.

Quad- If I could make a suggestion, could you also be able to be a fawn too? From what I've seen, people treat fawns much worse.

It looks like the community is split on this idea. I have made an official poll and ask that you please vote so I can get a better consensus on how the community feels about my project.

But I will say this - it seems that historically, if problems are not addressed, then no progress is made on finding a solution or simply bringing awareness of the problem. I think having the 'nice' and 'naughty' lists will prove a point to those who act one way or another toward nameless deer. The way I personally believe is that if you are roleplaying, sparring, or whatever, if a nameless or a fawn approaches, you should at least bow to them and interact only for a moment so that they feel welcome. It should be known that not everyone in this community does organized roleplay in the Forest, and especially nameless who do not come onto the community site and read your deer's bios to understand that your deer is aggressive, evil, or whatnot, so I don't understand why they should be punished for simply trying to play and enjoy the game.

I'll leave it up to you guys to decide anyway. If you like the way I have this set up, let me know by voting for Option A. If you want the tally system, choose Option B. If you want me to keep this as a hidden project, choose Option C. If you think this isn't a good idea altogether and should not be done, choose Option D. Whatever the majority picks, I will honor.

I haven't decided yet, but I'm considering dropping this since there was such an overwhelming response against it. In addition, I've been playing in-game and have so far had 9 deer act nicely toward me as a nameless with none acting rude. Many of them have not registered on the community site so that shows that they weren't affected by this post in choosing to be polite toward nameless.

I also don't know if it's too obvious that it's me in-game. So it looks like this entire thing wouldn't have worked anyway.

That. I've noticed it before, when I was playing a "nameless". I think this project is still worth doing, even just to see the tallies. c: I feel like if there was an overwhelming "bad" tally, people might even start treating nameless nicer that way.

Quad you're doing that thing again, were you react drastically and with self-loathing. Get away from the computer for a few minutes; talk a walk, get some fresh air, have a tea. Remember you are not as bad as you make yourself out to be.

I know how you feel, Quad. It's been a really quick change, too. In September, when Ryff was a fawn, everyone was tolerant of everyone else, at least to my understanding. Fawns and namelesses didn't seem so frowned upon -- most of my friends were fawns and namelesses.

And then all of a sudden, we get all of this hostility and tension on the community site.

But I believe things will get better. Please don't leave, Quad.

Don't leave, Quad.

And please don't cancel the project.

I think it is awesome if we just put a tally mark thing.

Please, don't cancel it.

I'm all for being nice to nameless/fawns, and your concept is a very good one, but I have to go with others on this and say 'the list' has a good chance to cause hurt and turn something that is currently a calm discussion into something ugly.

I wish you would stop putting yourself down.. I do urge you to continue with this, Quad, you're a great person and I support the idea. Ultimately it's up to you, but the tally idea might be something to consider, though. (: