just a thought

eyestrain's picture
I wonder if, the reason I leave is so that I can't be left.
I don't really understand it.
Why do I have a mental block when it comes to finishing something?
Why do I hate finishing something and being done with it?
Why is my solution to run away before the end and leave things hanging?

I push others away and feel lonely. But I am really good at making myself alone again, and so easily disappointed or disinterested with others. Why is being with others so difficult?

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original text:
I wish I could just zap an image out of my eyes by thinking really hard about it
Darling's picture

I can relate, lol.

I can relate, lol. <3

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Serenai's picture

Me too. This sounds silly,

Me too.
This sounds silly, but I want to make the bad ones go away. They aren't there all the time, but come back sometimes, and they do nothing but cause more bad things. I don't want those. Not anymore.
I hope good things fill your eyes.
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eyestrain's picture

I thought someone might,

I thought someone might, Darling.



Serenai- Once in a while I get something stuck in my mind, nothing i've seen before, just some weird bending of physics that repeats eternally, and it can be a bother. Especially if it's grotesque.

I hope what you're seeing goes away. Maybe you can replace them with something good?

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Darling's picture

That song.. that video.

That song.. that video. <3 You're not alone.

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Eyestrain, "just some weird

Eyestrain,

"just some weird bending of physics that repeats eternally, and it can be a bother. Especially if it's grotesque."
I wouldn't mind if you sent them to me.
eyestrain's picture

They are just things that pop

They are just things that pop into my mind when I'm walking around sometimes... Just an idea out of the blue. Like snapping off a finger and putting it back on, snapping it off, putting it back on, etc. then repeating forever.
But it doesn't happen very often. A lot of the time these thoughts are just absurd, like falling forward facefirst to the ground and then swinging up from behind the original position into standing, and then forward to the ground again, etc. It's just a kind of visual and mental hiccup, maybe?
They can be difficult to get out of my head. I've never talked with anyone about this sort of thing to know if it's common.

But that's not what I meant by wanting to zap an image out of my eyes. I meant it directly, with no hidden meaning. To just stare and have an image appear instantly.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet

Have you tried fixing your

Have you tried fixing your mental focus closely on something sensory, like observing the air resistance when you take another step, the movement of skin and muscles?..
Some part of my brain works like a music player. It felt quite handy at first, but it would get stuck on a repeat at times or act like a broken record. Hnr.

Perhaps, it has been my wish ever since I ceased to be a child. I've got.. somewhat of an unwritten story revolving around the theme.
Sithrim's picture

I think about that a loooot.

I think about that a loooot. Wouldn't be fair though, everyone would be an artist then.


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gone's picture

Yes.

Yes.
eyestrain's picture

If everyone were an artist,

If everyone were an artist, there would be a lot more art to share and enjoy.
I think probably, even then, older and more experienced or diligent observers would be able to produce more dazzling images, because it takes input to create output, and there is a language of choices that affect an image's impact. This is the study of art.
Only, sometimes I wish I didn't have to tax my body by spending the time to sit and draw.

Yes, Uitleger, it's like a song on repeat. I often stare at my hands as I flex and rotate them, and like to wrap my free hand around that wrist to feel how the things inside move as the muscle and sinew contracts. And when there's an unpleasant sound in the area I learned I can flex something in my head, I'm not sure what, to make a kind of loud, warm, and cloudy white noise from my temples. I can't do it long though, it might cause a headache.

If you could make images appear, what would happen?

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Sithrim's picture

Bhaaa, if anyone could do

Bhaaa, if anyone could do that, artists wouldn't even be recognized... and that I wouldn't ever want. Anyone can imagine something beautiful. The real challenge is to put it on paper or wherever... And I don't specially think the world fails with creativity, there's plenty of it already, and at least for me it's enough (:


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eyestrain's picture

I used to feel very small

I used to feel very small looking through deviantart, concept art, galleries in real life and other art websites, because the amount of mind blowing skill and creativity is overwhelming, and I began to wonder why someone like me should even try to compete, or what purpose there was in trying to create when it seems everything has already been created much better than I ever could. Like a drop of water in an ocean. I felt so small and unnecessary.

But I realized it is not about competition, or my visibility. Art is a blender- a way of mixing ourselves together with strangers. Art collects and distributes personal existence. It unites us.

Even if my work is not skilled, or not imaginative in comparison to others. Time is something always moving forward. The talented artists of yesterday may expire, and they will create no new work. Everything that has been created has a finite span of existence. So many thoughts, feelings, and experiences are lost with time, wear, and neglect. We preserve some that capture us, and discard what bores us. Like water evaporating from the sea.
But we have to keep creating. And each person has a story to tell, a drop into the ocean.

I am interested in those stories... Skill can speak beauty. But beyond skill is an individual, and their existence alters mine.

I think about this topic a lot. It is a large issue in the rise of the internet and personal software which allows anyone to create and distribute art much more easily and cheaply than ever before. Our world of art is already very different than it was fifteen or twenty years ago.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Sithrim's picture

I just think that it would

I just think that it would totally destroy the purpose of the artists (I say artists because we're talking about extracting images from our minds... I suppose with technology right? At least that's what I'm talking about)
So yeah. One day, we won't even have to MOVE to make a piece of "art". One day, maybe we'll have all sorts of machines to do things for us, extract infos from our heads - this, not only for drawing, but for writing also, and most things. To me, that'd be the downfall of Men... since we invented objects to help us, it keeps getting developped, over developped now, maybe. We barely use our bodies anymore...

I'm not saying the images we could extract from minds of whom wouldn't be able to apply them on paper wouldn't be interesting. I'm just saying that... well, if that person can't do it with his manual capacities, well, that person can't show it. But yeah, I do believe someday we'll be able to 'draw' only by setting it up in our mind and get it into a computer. I hope I won't spectate that, as I'd feel betrayed. Maybe it is not a competition, but artists do have a certain pride in what they create/make the efforts to produce with their hands - as much pride as an artist should have of modesty.
Being beaten by simple machines is not fair at all, to my eyes.


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eyestrain's picture

While reading your post I

While reading your post I kept thinking of an artist named Chuck Close.
He became completely paralyzed, and devised a way in which he could paint without being able to move his body.

No, without technology, he could not paint. I do not think his work is less 'art' because it was made with the aid of technology.

You and I both use technology to make art- if not a stylus, the brush was once high technology. Anyone can hold a brush. Anyone can use a stylus.

There is also art that is made by careful manipulation of maths to produce such results as this. This is a work of both computer and man, computer doing the number crunching and man choosing the result based on rules of aesthetic that have been passed down from his ancestors.
When I look at it, I recall things- the feeling of a seashell. The weight of a marble. Tarnished brass.

Ultimately I feel art is most importantly message, not media or method of construction. Whether I have cut together the film physically and taped it back together, or I have clicked a mouse to drag one clip of information representing light in just such amounts that it resembles the same two people holding each other on that film, what matters is what we see and what narrative emerges from the moving images.

Whether we are holding brushes, cutting up paper, photographing light from space, writing a program that paints using the presence of strangers, or to craft an endless forest that brings anonymous individuals together without words in an interactive surreal illustration, what ultimately lasts in our minds are the feelings these things bring us, our understanding of what these things are saying to us.

Do those feelings not come to life because of these things are made without our physical touching of their smaller components?

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Sithrim's picture

I'm not saying all that is

I'm not saying all that is produced through technology isn't art, and what I meant is that 'zap an image to a computer' would be unfair. In all those pictures you showed to me, there is a producing step. Zapping an image to a screen is something else.

However, I still think digital art isn't as unique - there is never one original piece. :/

I'm sorry my message is crappy, I'm hurrying for school hahaha.


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eyestrain's picture

Don't worry, I am enjoying

Don't worry, I am enjoying this conversation.
And true, there is no original, but that means each copy of it can be as flawless as the artist created it, distributed endlessly, and is very difficult to destroy (in the case of the internet).

I understand your meaning. Forgive me for getting off track with the discussion of technology in art.

I feel like although the production time may teach patience and discipline, if it could just be cut out perhaps we could experiment visually with greater speed and learn more quickly what works and what does not. And simply copying something else we'd seen would be exactly the same as art theft now- those who hadn't seen the original might be impressed but others would recognize it as repetition without bringing any new ideas.

Rendering feels like an extra step that only gets between what I think my thoughts are and what my thoughts really are. Like if I could skip it I'd learn instantly that I didn't really understand the way skin looks over muscle, or the properties of light in a room without having to spend 15 hours to find out. It would be the same game- teaching my eyes to absorb and retain objective detail. I would just be able to regurgitate that information in a way that didn't damage my limbs or vision.

It would be so nice...

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Sithrim's picture

I'm enjoying it too haha.

I'm enjoying it too haha.

Yes, distributed endlessly, but maybe even stolen. That's what bothers me. How can one prove one was really the author of a piece? Such a complicated subject.
I know I may sound contradictory since I seem to post mostly digital art in here, but this is my real thought. It's a shame there is not an "original". Maybe the psd.? Is that sufficient? What if you lose it with technology problems such as virus? Happened to me. And it's hell bothering.


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eyestrain's picture

Generally art theft is

Generally art theft is practiced by those lacking confidence in their ability. I think it is usually obvious when someone is stealing which party is the original creator, and once a thief is outed, there is usually little left to discuss.

Having an online gallery where one's body of work over time can be publicly viewed also helps prove an an artists' work belongs to them. The art thieves I have seen, if they had galleries, had collected from so many different people it was impossible to believe they came from the same source.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet

I miss your presence. How are

I miss your presence. How are you doing, eyestrain?
eyestrain's picture

I am so well that it's

I am so well that it's overwhelming.
If I'm absent in the forest, it may be because the forest is a place of healing for me, and right now, I am in very good health.

But I miss it. It's good to see you.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Serenai's picture

I know that feeling.

I know that feeling.
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eyestrain's picture

yes

yes

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet

Hnn. I love how you word

Hnn. I love how you word things, eyestrain. I'm glad you're here, and that I can enjoy reading your thoughts and seeing your art.
I can really relate to this. Keep on at it. ♥

Unplugged's picture

That's alright. I don't mind

That's alright. I don't mind you being "stupidly sensitive"; Be well ☆
Sypris's picture

eyestrain - i want to thank

eyestrain -
i want to thank you for your post beginning "I used to feel very small looking through deviantart, concept art, galleries in real life and other art websites..."

i've been feeling that way a lot lately. like, what's the point of posting if no one will comment, if there's much much better art than mine, if i can't compete with the beautiful things others post. you're right, though, it's not competition. it's hard to realize that sometimes, though.

your posts are always so refreshing, so thank you again.
Chickenwhite's picture

God, it's good to hear you

God, it's good to hear you feeling well! And isn't it funny how out pets sometimes seem to possess wisdom beyond even the greatest philosophers?~
eyestrain's picture

I learn more when I try to

I learn more when I try to look at the world through her eyes. I imagine how my absence to her is completely out of thin air and it's uncertain if i'll ever return. As she gets older, I know that soon the tables may be turned on our situation, and every moment I can look into her blue eyes and listen to her purring on my shoulder becomes a treasure.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Chickenwhite's picture

The company of a pet truly is

The company of a pet truly is unmatched... TwT And enjoying those little, precious moments is just worth everything you could possibly give for them >w<
eyestrain's picture

I don't know how I'll bear it

I don't know how I'll bear it when she's gone. I just have to try and store up as many memories as possible.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Chickenwhite's picture

Exactly... I still miss my

Exactly... I still miss my rabbit Pierce, but the memories I have of him keep me company and when I think back on them, it's almost like he's still here... So in a way, they're never really gone TwT
eyestrain's picture

You're right

You're right Smiling

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Chickenwhite's picture

Sounds like someone wronged

Sounds like someone wronged you... *huggle* You okay?...
Munkel's picture

...&hearts;

...♥
Nayu's picture

To hang somewhere in your

To hang somewhere in your thoughts.




Siggy by Butterbrot <3
eyestrain's picture

I appreciate that so much,

I appreciate that so much, you three.

I'll have a good cry and when I finally get to sleep, in the morning everything will be better.

You're real sweet to think of me.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Spyrre's picture

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<3
shaku's picture

*snugs* I feel pity for

*snugs* I feel pity for anybody who's lost the opportunity to have you.
I'm sorry this bad thing has happened, whatever it is.

-Nuzzles- I'm sorry for

-Nuzzles-

I'm sorry for whatever has happened.
eyestrain's picture

You're all very sweet. Thank

You're all very sweet. Thank you for your words. Things will be alright. If anything, the disappointment has offered me a clearer view of all the good I have here at home with my family.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
shaku's picture

;A; &hearts; I don't know

;A; ♥ I don't know what happened, but I'm sorry for you and your loss. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.

eyestrain's picture

Thank you Shaku. It's going

Thank you Shaku. It's going to be alright.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Munkel's picture

-hugs- mh ;;

-hugs- mh ;;
eyestrain's picture

&hearts;


I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet
Kaoori's picture

I'm here, if you need me.

I'm here, if you need me.
Iaurdagnire's picture

Not sure where to link you to

Not sure where to link you to this... but Unplugged suggested I saved the recording for a movie we watched together called Only Yesterday which you might be interested in. It's a studio ghibli film.
http://www.livestream.com/nabii/video?clipId=pla_5183a219-4325-45cb-a351-00863125170a
It's here. Let me know if you've seen it/have watched it so I can delete the recording (: I believe it has a shaky start and freezes a couple of times, but yeah.
Nayu's picture

nvmd, posted this somewhere

nvmd, posted this somewhere else

Siggy by Butterbrot <3
shaku's picture

"If only tears were a bridge,

"If only tears were a bridge, or a bandage."
If only ;n;

Chickenwhite's picture

I get that way a lot too...

I get that way a lot too... mostly because my rhetoric is quite... unusual in normal speech. It takes a special kind of person to really understand me and have a conversation with me. And the only explanation I can find for this is as simple as it is frustrating; some people you click with, some people you just don't. It's a matter of complementing personalities, I think... But there IS a way to be able to communicate even with those who don't seem to understand you; study rhetoric and speech. It's the only way to get a broad enough understanding of comprehension to be able to appeal to everyone.
But I'd say just stick to those you connect with; those are usually the ones "worth keeping" in a matter of speaking ^w^
shaku's picture

I feel like connections with

I feel like connections with people transcend verbal communication. I think it's a spark between souls, if there is such a thing, or at least the energy that we give off. I think it's our body language and our aura. I think some people decide that they don't want to communicate, and I think some people just don't click, so they don't put in the effort to understand what you're saying. I think we have to be happy that there are a few people out there who are willing to listen instead of just stand there and let our messages drift past their ears.

I guess I'm just saying... Don't try so hard? And don't worry. There will always be people like that, and until they want to understand, they simply won't. You can't change how they react or how they think. All you can do is put out words and energy and hope for the best.

eyestrain's picture

I'm grateful for the people

I'm grateful for the people who do make an effort, and especially grateful and humbled by how many of them I have met on this site.

But I wish I had such a dear friend here with me so that we might be happy together, face to face.

I have many good friends here, when I don my charming mask. I'm quite good at public speaking, storytelling, and playing it cool and nonchalant.

But without that masquerade, it sometimes seems like there are a thousand miles between me and the people around me.

I have met a few people in person with whom I at last feel I am not alone. But a literal thousand miles or more always seems to find its way between us. I'm grateful we met. I miss them.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
-faunet