"Leave me alone" - How To?

shaku's picture
While playing Vasska, I try and be sensitive to when the player is telling me OOC to bug off.

IC: "in character" (the character is reacting)
OOC: "out of character" (the player is reacting)

What I take as OOC "please leave me alone":
✗ Airsitting on nothing (if you airsit in a tree, I often take this as IC)
✗ Bow + no
✗ Posting on my characters' bios. As a personal note, I'm not very fond of this one. I appreciate clarifications of "no meant I was saying no" in the forest, but if an OOC motion hasn't first been made in the forest by the other player, I find it demeaning. Why should I be forced to make my deer OOC if the other person hasn't made a similar motion? It's discourteous, in my opinion, although I'm certainly open to other ideas.

This is an extremely short list, and I've seen deer recently that use "bow+no" while in character. The only thing I've found to be fool-proof is airsitting on nothing.

I almost never take a simple headshake (no) as an OOC message to me, because I've been around too many deer who do this IC. The only exception is when it's a radical shift from anger/happiness to "no," as in, the person has popped out of character. When that happens, I leave just in case.

Anyone care to add on to this tiny list?

Additions:
✗ Groundtapping + "no"
✗ Headspamming "no"
✗ "no" + sit down (w/ back to the player)

Tracking because I love these

Tracking because I love these kind of discussions. I'm glad you laid this sort of stuff out--a lot of these are cues I think I take unconsciously, too.
Mr.Sanguine's picture

Airsitting

Airsitting anywhere.
Standing/moving away + tapping the ground + headshake 'no'
tapping the ground + headshake 'no' in general
Sleepything's picture

tracking this as well~

tracking this as well~

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ShikaTale's picture

I am still kinda new here so

I am still kinda new here so I may sound stupid but I've been hearing about OOC and IC? So what do they mean/what are they? Sorry to butt in with this silly question D=
eyestrain's picture

"Out of character" and "In

"Out of character" and "In character" are terms used in roleplaying to distinguish between the behavior of a character and the player of that character.



I am always in and out of character simultaneously in the forest, because brd is me. He is only different from me in that he is a human-faced stag in the forest. His feelings and thoughts are mine and mine are his.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
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ShikaTale's picture

Oh I see. Thank you Eyestrain

Oh I see. Thank you Eyestrain Smiling

I shake my head to mean I am

I shake my head to mean I am not happy with what you (any deer) are doing.
I don't bother combining actions, but it's interesting to read that some others require it.

I like to sit by unfamiliar deer but often it seems to bother and ruffle them.
shaku's picture

Sorry, Shika :3 I'll add

Sorry, Shika :3 I'll add that.

Interesting input, guys!

Eyestrain, I didn't know thatt >> That's so fitting. You'll be sure to let me know if any of my chars' actions in-forest upset you, won't you? ♥

RaQu; Ninja~ That's very interesting. I enjoy the forest for its roleplaying qualities, and I usually end up creating characters whose personalities challenge me... As in, they're pretty far away from my own personality. While I understand the meaning of "no," my Vasska does not, so he would not stop. It's necessary for me to make the decision to pull him away if I feel like the other player is getting irritated. If I ever found out my Vasska had driven you to logging off because I didn't understand you were you and not a deer, I'd feel really bad about it XD

aldebaran's picture

hm maybe also if someone

hm maybe also if someone constantly spams the headshake no... and if someone sits down and pretty much 'ignores' you?

...though... these two things are pretty much self explanentory as well... hmm *is not very helpful*


...for me it is that i tend to let my deer spam the headshake no... if i feel 'oocly pissed' xD and if that doens't help I either go airsitting somewhere... or disconnect for a few minutes.
-:-
wingeddeer's picture

I think I need to clear up my

I think I need to clear up my actions as well xD

The mini with the nightfall pelt who was trying to ward off Vasska was my doe being in character.
She was infuriated with him,but I found it quite funny xD And I almost never find anyone annoying on here.

This is a good list,i'll track ^^


I usually shake my head and

I usually shake my head and sit down, my back to the character(s) that I am ignoring. I will walk away from spellspams or anything that bothers me and usually go sit by myself.

If someone particularly annoys me I can also get angry at that person and taunt, followed by shaking my head, but I usually would rather just leave where the annoying deer is.

In the few cases that these deer follow me I am more likely to disconnect, but I don't often want to or have to Smiling

I usually take airsit as a

I usually take airsit as a "leave me alone". except if the deer starts doing actions, because then i see it as they want to interact. if they ignore me, i take it as they want to be left alone. but if they headshake no a lot i will also leave them alone, i am quicker to retreat if i'm unsure, in fear of bothering them.

as for my own actions, i can't really recall to have been in-forest and also wanting to be left alone. xD i'd rather not go in in the first place. but i do use bow+no as an in-character action. also i've seen myself do sudden taunts and then leave if someone really pisses me off as a player, but usually just towards strange deer being really rude without a good reason.
shaku's picture

aldebaran; Ahh yes,

aldebaran; Ahh yes, headspamming no is a definite tell.

Wingeddeer; Yess, your IC actions came across very nicely XD I felt very much that you were in character, although it'd good to hear it from you as a player, as well~

Panda; Oooh nice ones~ *adds*

mini; I've done the same thing myself to a couple people I suspected were trolls. I have no patience for that. Although realistically if they're trolls, they wouldn't understand the signals, so idk haha~

I notice sometimes people

I notice sometimes people will just outright ignore the other deer if they OOC-ily don't want to be bothered. -not helpful-

It's so hard to tell, isn't

It's so hard to tell, isn't it?

Most of the actions listed here could very well be IC actions still.

Even airsitting... unfortunately. My deer once chased a deer who would airsit(even on nothing), and it was still IC(or so I took it, when I asked the player if my characters actions were bothersome). My character will airsit sometimes, or hide under the big rock at the playground, though I/my character are still purely IC.

The most clear sign is when the deer logs off. I've had this happen on more than one occasion. I never intend to chase someone off of the game, though I know that sometimes my deers actions can easily be taken as 'trolling'. - If the other deer logs off, I know something is wrong... and now, as sad as it sounds, is the only way I know the other deer/player isn't up for that kind of interaction.

If the deer has a bio up, and there is no warning there that it is an OOC deer, I automatically assume it is just that, a character, and it is being played ICly.

In short, it's just too hard to tell anymore... so I just play my character, and really nowadays... just restrict her to a certain group of other deer/players to avoid conflict in general. - I sometimes still get the courage to have her approach new deer, but it's becoming less and less.

I guess despite all of that though, airsitting in general would be the clearest sign...

ShikaTale's picture

I see when deer listen then

I see when deer listen then quickly turn it off it shakes their head, and to fight and taunt they mix and click random things to make it look like their attacking
Gustiro's picture

Personally I think tapping

Personally I think tapping and shaking head no can very much be something done IC. In fact I use that IC often enough. Usually I take signs such as airsitting on open air, bow + no, head shake no spamming, and No + Sit with back to deer/player as the most clear OOC actions. For the most part it has served me well enough and I find it the easiest way to know when to have Gustiro back down.
Iaurdagnire's picture

I don't do it very often, but

I don't do it very often, but if I'm looking for someone in forest/logged into the game to do something specific and don't want to be bothered at that exact moment, I do bow and "no". It's very effective for me as I hardly ever use the "no" emote, so when others see it it's very clear.

I do usually follow that action with a nuzzle to say goodbye, and sometimes another bow (integrated with the nuzzle usually) just as a 'thank you for understanding' and to let them know it's okay.

My general observation is that people tend to over-think this. I just do it to be polite; it's not their fault they wanted to say hi and play with me. How dare they be nice! lol.

As of late, I've typically

As of late, I've typically just moved off. Unfortunately, this sometimes ends up with me being chased, and then I'm forced to taunt and shake my head to get the point across.

I refuse to bow because I don't like bowing to someone that refuses to mind my personal space, and I hate head shaking, because it's such a "subtle" action, that I think most players would just ignore it, or not even see it. I've had a low tolerance for being close to anyone that's irritating me as of late. And I've had a low tolerance for standing still and motioning "No" to them. I just want to have distance between them.
Graveyard's picture

I would like to add in the

I would like to add in the things that Nightmare often does when he desires to be left alone:

Taunt + Shaking his head No - Means he does not want to be bothered (Or if he is spammed/Spelled it is a sign not to do it again)
Bellow/Moo + No - Again, means No to him and it trying to get the hint across.
Listen + Listen quickly to get the head shake followed by No - Again, Means No and to Leave him Be.

Those would be the major two, I want players to understand that when he does these things it's not as a game or Out of Character. It is Nightmare IN character telling you to bugger off :U

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