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Sixth page is mine!!! -eats sixth page-

*sneezes everywhere* ♥

NOW I FEEL GUILT.
HERE. *WIPES WITH TISSUE*

Haha, this looks baaaad.
You play him very well <3

Yeeees, I see.
Oh, you welcome! Hmm, that sounds complicated, sadly haha : D But I do understand you alittle, its the same for Adriian sometimes.

Dada. ♥

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A-stalk~

Daddy-track! ♥

meep

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so handsome :Q__

A bump for you.

One day I thought: 'IC' was created only who play such characters like hunters or predators are not held responsible for their acts. Maybe it's not fully true, but I think this is so. Yes. I also assume that the presence of 'IC' in character 'type' is acceptable, beceause they are all have their own temperament, habits, etc, you know. It's acceptable to eliminate any personal relationship between the players when their characters interact, but I think still it happens. We cannot completely eliminate our own preferences and traits when we are playing, maybe then we should not try all assure that it is not? Maybe indeed we should change our tactics? And be a more honest, a little more responsible for what we do for others? And stop hiding behind the label ''100% ICly'' in disclaimer?...

I also didn't understand what is In-Character, it was when I did not know the difference between IC and OOC. Once one character got mad at my. At first I was very offended, I didn't understand why it happened. I tried to speak with the player, but he just politely explained: that's not my temperament, it's not my actions, he entered the fray because it's his point of view. Not mine.
I think that many had the situations, and they certainly did not bring joy. It's really sad thing.. For the player it is impossible to think as his fictional character, unless it's himself.

So, I don't even know how to properly treat this situation. But I think largely you are right. This is a very controversial question, so it's hard to have a definite opinion.

Think you need to take a step back and remember that nobody is out to get you through their characters. Yes, they play them, they navigate them, but I'd think it's pretty clear after several years here that characters are characters, not the people playing them. They are pixels, with personalities of their own. You can argue that it's the person behind them deciding what they do- and in some cases it might be true, since there are a few who don't differentiate IC and OOC. But the vast majority know the deal. Characters do what they will.

Don't go blaming people for a game they're playing- because it's a game they're playing. I understand being upset if your character is wrongfully blamed for this or that, but again, it's a character. Shit happens in their lives, fights happen, there are mistakes and wrongs, and the forest goes on.

If it hurts you or you hate it, don't stay. Nobody forces you to come here and 'deal' with the troubles you think they're causing you.

e - on a side note, be careful how you word things. some people might think you're talking about them, and that's very unkind indeed, for someone who wants to be treated with respect yourself.

SINCE I'M DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THIS but I've never been personally talked to or contacted by you and as such didn't really have much of a chance to change... anything really, I figure I'll comment here! But not to discuss the more personal side because there's no point here-

I'd just like to say while I understand these things have bothered you, it would have saved some trouble to be contacted when it began to, and told at all about what's upset you so we could actually work through it and come to a compromise instead of ending up here with you being 'done' and posting for people to agree with, with zero context and no word of the other side, deeming others assholes.

THAT BEING SAID I'm aware you've talked to others? I don't know the full extent of how those conversations went so I'm only speaking for me personally. But if I'm not contacted and told that things would be more comfortable if changed, I can't do a thing about it and we end up here. I would have been/have always been willing to work with people.

IC is no excuse for bullshit, but flat out playing along with it without asking for things to be changed or compromised and then going off on those who continued to play as they were because there was no discussion or room to change, isn't either.

So I'm sorry you've been made uncomfortable playing your character, but had I think a huuuge amount of change could have been made by a quick 'woah this isn't cool' and a quick contact and some effort put in to figuring out what we could do to change it. Perhaps you did it? But not with me, so ALSKJD

And this doesn't apply to just you, but to everyone! I've had someone say my character borderline mauled another when he was just stepping over them without any negative interaction towards them, and the other gave the excuse that she 'perceived it as such' on an OOC level. And as a result a shitton of IC issues went down and made him uncomfortable to play for some time.

Both sides have the ability to reach out but it's often the one who has the problem who would benefit a shitton more from trying to do so. Oftentimes people who are comfortable and happy doing as they do don't feel the need to because they aren't aware of the need.

Nobody wants you to feel uncomfortable. But if there are, for example, 10 people involved in a situation and you speak to 2 then throw your hands up and saying you did all you did to change it and nobody considered you or tried to see your side when it doesn't go to plan, it.. doesn't really work out.
Not only that but if IC is no excuse, then you being OOCly upset about and IC situation and trying to solve it through your character's explanation, it obviously won't do any more to help. Things like this need to be shut down immediately, not played along with so people get the wrong impression. It takes two to tango.

I understand your point, Qanat, and I have to apologize for not contacting you directly. So, I am sorry. I have no better explanation to not contacting you than being just so damn tired of everything that I just meh'd.

Spoken to a few others concerning this issue before burping my rage here. I contacted those that I had the most problem with and I did tell them that this is not cool. To that I got the response of things being IC.

I have no problem with others picking fights, throwing shit at my characters face IF they come to me asking if this is alright or not. Some people are open to random stuff being thrown to them without a warning but yeah. If the drama concerns a larger change in the character's life/development I think asking a permission would be appropriate. This doesn't concern just some specific players, it is more of a guideline for everyone.

Will be erasing the text from the main blog, too. Anyone wanting to still discuss this can contact me via skype iiiid_

'To that I got the response of things being IC.'

I think the issue there was people felt they were being accused of being OOC in the first place. That wasn't an excuse, it was an attempt to explain why/how things were happening that way, aka icly. The focus was likely shifted from the problem at hand to being worried you thought things were OOC and people were out to get you. From what I understand!

Even then, did you say it just flat out wasn't cool and you were angry, or did you ask if there was a way things could be stopped and changed to make you feel more comfortable?
How you phrase things towards other people makes a world of difference and if you come to someone angrily and accusing them, 9 out of 10 times they will not be willing to work with you because they feel insulted as well. That and it seems to come out of nowhere to them. More importantly, if it's posted in public before being brought to them it simply looks like shittalking. Not saying that's what you were doing, though!
And again that goes for everyone who's plagued by this sort of issue.

BUT THAT'S ALL I SAY FOR NOW, my two cents