I have a problem./rant

MissButterflyCaught's picture
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I feel as if I can never KEEP a character. I want to only have 2 characters, one Doe and one Buck. I love Unduetu as well, but I am on the fence with her.
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I hate that my ideas just COME OUT in to characters that only stay for one or two days before dying again. It's hard to keep from making so many of them. I think on this site I have made around 30 and only ever kept a couple for more than a month. Yeah, I have a buttload of pictograms at my disposal.
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Well, to get this to the point:
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I really have been trying very hard to develop a doe character. I really want one. I want one that will stick and stay, and I have been trying so hard to develop someone beautiful and natural in appearance. Someone that I want to draw as much as I want to draw Iphea. The does I have made in the past keep trying to mesh, but that only gives me a headache and a heartache that they can't make someone for me.
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Otherwise, I wish I could just play a deer with no set, but I am worried people won't realize I am not a newbie and will try to spam me like they used to when I played my "just pelted" deer. -.- I really like the naked pelt. It seems natural and beautiful.
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Oh I have no courage... >.< Doe or Setless? Both? I can deal with three characters. In fact, that would be more than perfectly fine with me to have three.
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But should I just scrap Unduetu like the rest? She's beginning to get some publicity... I know you aren't supposed to play characters you don't love, though.... -.- I am at such a loss. Any advice from anyone? /smallwalloftext
ickydog's picture

Oy! That's frustrating. What

Oy! That's frustrating. What don't you like about Unduetu?
I had issues with my first doe character, Fae. She wasn't terribly developed and as she grew, I didn't have a back story for her or a definite personality worked out. I didn't know what to do with her.
Enter Roe. I thought long and hard about her. I had a back story, some history, and an idea of how I wanted her to grow and change. And I truly love her as a character.
For some reason, it's easier to play my buck Shalaco than it is to play Roe (in game at least). (had the same problem with Fae, when I was still playing her)
So I guess, what is it about Unduetu that you like and don't like? What aspects would be easily changed? She could be setless (Roe wears the default pelt).
I have no idea if that was helpful at all . . .
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That's just it. I don't have



That's just it. I don't have anything wrong with her. I just am not in love with her. :/ She is kinda static, seeing as she has a set EVERYTHING. Iphea, on the other hand, started out dumb as a post and with little to no anything. Now he developed a backstory, a personality, and a voice that reflects me more.

:/ I have been holding back on creating anyone else in entirety since him just for this reason. But I feel like I need to take breaks from him sometimes.
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I... Don't know if I'm

I... Don't know if I'm helpful at all...

But I'll tell you this, for assistance: Why not to interact with your deer? Write some stories about your deer, get to know them in-game, and imagine you are actually talking to them... Well, and you can wear sets that doesn't even MIX with your deer. ' I mean, if they get the feeling you're just pelted with the default pelt, then sneeze it off, so they may get a feeling you actually have the default pelt...?

I don't know still if it was helpful, but I do hope that does something. Smiling
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Deerth, Thank you. I did

Deerth,

Thank you. I did that with Iphea and it seemed to work with him. He and I hold conversations and everything, but the doe in particular doesn't seem to want to talk. She seems to like teasing me. :/ The setless seems to love me, and likes rubbing me... kinda nice and very wild, yet gentle. It reminds me of a cow.

I feel like this talking helps, just voicing it on here. I still don't know what to do with Unduetu though.
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Good! I'm glad it helped a

Good! I'm glad it helped a bit.

Your deer might be teasing you for reasons because you're a bit unsure about them/you weren't talking to your deer much. At least I think so. When you let boldly them to talk everything with you, you and your deer became unseparable, that means your deer might become a part of you. Violet and I are unseparable. Other characters might be farther for me, but only because I give the most attention to my primary characters. When Unduetu doesn't want to talk to you much, get them together with your deer, whom are close with you. Unduetu grows closer to you if he is sure about you, as your deer might imaginarily tell you're great. I don't know, but I'm talking such connection because I've experienced it...
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Let your characters slowly

Let your characters slowly grow with you until you're happy with them. And don't care about the opinions of others. I'm struggling with character creating as well, hm. Good luck.
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That's just it. Unduetu



That's just it. Unduetu doesn't sound like she wants to talk ever. Iphea doesn't seem to be sure of her, and won't talk with her no matter how many times I ask. They do have moments when he helps her, but they don't talk. It's like she doesn't want to come out fully.... like she doesn't like me.

I feel like the setless deer wants to come out. The doe gave me a set for her, but she still seems to want to be the most important thing in the world. I feel like suppressing her for now... but I still want to play her. Maybe I will let her sit for awhile and grow, and then tell me what she wants to do. I think I will do the same with Unduetu. Now, to ask my nameless for his pictogram.... I feel like people would see him as being more "set in his setless-ness" if I let him have my Gen 1 pictogram. Maybe.

Edit: Ninja-sin.... Thank You. Smiling


I think I will just let them do it themselves. Find myself some CSS and create a beautiful bio, and let the deer themselves grow in to it.

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DEERTH's picture

Good you've found them a

Good you've found them a little on. Well, I can't suggest anything right now, but be patient with your deer, they'll sure talk about themselves soon. Laughing out loud

And the 1st Gen picto might look greater on your setless deer, yes! Smiling

Good luck with your ongoing deer! ♥
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Thank you.



Thank you.

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Ourania's picture

I have the same exact

I have the same exact problem. I've made up at least 10 characters and I keep coming back to Ourania. I scrapped them all because all I could come up with was a set for them. I'm struggling right now to come up with a stag character and I'm kind of at a standstill. I've even tried putting up a RP blog but it got no attention whatsoever. I really don't know what to do x.x
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Ourania, if you'd want to,

Ourania, if you'd want to, I'd happily RP with you with one of my characters to help you out. Eye
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I can't say I have the same

I can't say I have the same problem... but I have yet to make a solid character who is fully developed. And I'm getting disheartened by it because it's been years. My first character was more OOC than anything, no matter how I tried to develop her into her own. Now, she's gone and I have no real characters who are more than names, looks, or ideas in my head.

I truly don't understand it when everyone says that their deer talk to them, express themselves to you, and the like. It's a brick wall that I can't get over, as far as being able to connect with any one of my characters. I only get urges to draw a character, or a passing fancy in an idea. It never goes farther than that. Take, for instance, the sketch of a beautiful stag on a piece of notebook paper. He has no name, no color scheme, no personality, no history... He's just a sketch and I can't get anything from him.

I don't know what to do. I can't take any of my deer into the forest, since I currently can't install it on my dad's computer. I can't really interact and rp with any of them, since they're missing such huge chunks of information. And I seriously sat myself down to mull over my sketched deer, thinking of anything he might like, but nothing seemed to fit.

I'm sorry about this rant on your blog MissB. :< Didn't think it'd turn into a freaking book.
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No being sorry, WS. This is


No being sorry, WS. This is what this blog is for.

Really, if you can't talk to them, you could always just keep drawing them. If you find one you like, maybe do a comic with them in it to learn more about them? (hm... maybe I will do that too.) As in, just draw them in different poses, doing things, and just hanging around. Like a V.I. with yourself?

Basically with the whole "Talking to your deer" thing, we let our thoughts run freely on the subject of the character until something clicks. The information that they're missing sometimes reveals itself. Maybe keep a notebook nearby and just write, no matter how little sense it makes.

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&hearts;

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I used to have

I used to have character-amount issues constantly. It's part of the reason I drifted away from this place for two years - constantly obsessing over how many characters I had, how many I wanted to make, etc etc.

Admittedly I'm still having the problem of characters just fading away. Stairway and The Keeper; Moksha; even Snake. Now I want Idaho and Morrison/Verdilac and eh...


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Maybe we will have to set up

Maybe we will have to set up a time and date to go and play our experimental chars in-forest together and see how they interact/want to interact with each other. Maybe start a board on here of deer that need interaction to grow and change, and ask for players willing to volunteer their deer for personal, one-on-one situations.
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Oh, I still have the same

Oh, I still have the same problem. Deer constantly in and out of activity... always more than about five at a time.

Sometimes you need to actually play a character before you decide that it will or won't work. I've done that a lot, created characters that I thought would be awesome before I realized that they were more trouble than they were worth.

In the end, don't take it too seriously. Do what you want. Nobody is judging you based on your number of characters or what sex they are or what they look like.
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That's a great idea, MissB.!

That's a great idea, MissB.! It would probably definitely help! lol I'd have to sit out for a while though :/ Don't get back to my computer until some time (hopefully) in November/December.

Ginger, that seems to a problem I've also had. Having made a character that I thought would be really fun and easy to play, but their mannerisms made some much conflict that the deer was... well, incomplete in their ability to interact properly to others and situations.
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<3 It's really what I think. I want to have my variety of characters so I don't get bored. Not too serious, but still feeling like each of my characters is a child to me and I hate to kill them off/ delete them.
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Ourania's picture

DEERTH- I'd love that You

DEERTH- I'd love that Laughing out loud You can rp with Ourania on her bio page or I'd love to RP my new character on MSN or something. Or I could make a blog here if you would rather do that. I'm still trying to figure out his appearance some.
ocean's picture

Quote:Let your characters

Quote:
Let your characters slowly grow with you until you're happy with them.


This. All my best characters have come from letting them slowly change or grow, adding things on. Try adding weird 'tics' or other things like that. Little unique things that make you like them more. They can even be little things like a routine.

Other than that, you'll come to love them over time. -u-
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Draw them with emotion, draw

Draw them with emotion, draw an expression, not just a design. If you want them to be alive, give them life. Even if the character in question is supposed to be a total opposite to its creator, since it has come from you, you have something in common, use that. (Hope I made any sense s:)

I use my favorite music to determine the spirit of the character.
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Oi, MSN would be a good idea,

Oi, MSN would be a good idea, Ourania! But, I can RP with Ourania at your bio at the same time too.



That's my home email/MSN, full of my country language, sorry 'bout that. C|
But I talk english with TEF people. Laughing out loud
Feel free to add me, then.
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