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Jail's picture

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Hello to all, Im new to ToT and TEF, joined a few minutes ago. Im pretty much getting the hang of the actions and stuff, but I have a few questions concerning this game since ive already read some of the posts/rants about wearing the same "set" as another deer,hanging around deer that you dont know and then their friends yelling at you, and lastly: attention.

So first things first:
wearing the same "set" as another deer; Ive noticed people complaining about it/getting all mad and using the fight icons..(is that what there called?) really, I dont make a big deal about it and would probably ignore them. What I want to ask is this: em i (silly to say) Allowed to wear a set I like , or will i get ran over by 100 deer because im wearing some famous deer's pelt and they dont appreciate the fact that I like wearing it?:/

Second,
hanging around deer that you dont know and then their friends yelling at you;
Well, my friend joined tef a few days earlier and she got yelled at by at least 3 other deer for getting close to one fawn and saying a simple hello...I dont think thats neccessary?

And last;
attention...The last time I used the bow action to at least 8 deer, they ignored me. litterly. All they did was look at me, and the simply either walk away, sit down, or roar at me to go away.


Im not trying to make anyone mad but, Im already not feeling welcomed, sorry to say...

I hope tomorrow I meet more "friendly" deer.

Alecsander's picture

A) For wearing the same set:

A) For wearing the same set: I don't care. Some people say they don't care and still get mean/bitchy in forest about it. Wear whatever you like and if people start to get passive aggressive tell them off. Chances are you see your deer completely different than theirs despite the fact that you're wearing the same in game set. It's nothing for anyone to get worked up about and no one "Owns" a set. It's perfectly acceptable to wear a set if you like it reguardless of whether a 'popular' deer wears it or not. Just be aware that you could have problems where someone mistakes your deer for another.

For example: My friend Kittycatkita has a deer Keiran who has a pretty regular set to see (skull mask+dotd pelt). Apparently some other player uses that set who acts like a complete butt munch in forest. Despite the fact that her deer is fairly nice she constantly gets deer trying to fight her due to the deer who shares the set. People usually are too lazy to check the picto before they leap so it is something to be mindful of.

B) No. It's not necessary. I don't know why certain players choose to act like this.

C) Chances are you ran across the big unfriendly group that lounges around occasionally. There has been some problems with a certain deer harassing a handful of people recently and it has made a group of users really inhospitable to anyone they don't immediately recognize or like because the player harassing them keeps changing pictos.


I really hope you do meet better deer. You choose to join in a time when rude/mean/evil/loner deer are in style so it's a bit difficult to try and interact nicely with others. You gotta pick and choose your battles and go after the nice approachable players.

Chances are they won't be near the big 'super group' of deer sitting together that rear/roar/get angry at people for approaching.

Fawns are usually always a good bet too. They're new players like yourself so they may seem a bit silly/confusing at first but you can have some good times with them.

Feel free to check out my deer's pictos and run over if you see me in forest. Smiling I'll happily show you around and play silly games.
Jail's picture

Alecsander- Thank you for

Alecsander- Thank you for clearing all of that up, I'll make sure to look for your deer in forest.
Also, I like your name, its Unique.
Kaoori's picture

Welcome. I like your picto,

Welcome. Smiling
I like your picto, it's interesting.
I personally find it funny if a deer dresses like mine.. ^^;;
Jail's picture

Kaoori- Thank you for the

Kaoori- Thank you for the warm welcoming.
And its nice to know someone likes my picto, was the first one that went on the screen when i went to the registry. I myself find it interesting having a twin in forest.
Alecsander's picture

Thank you. It's my real

Thank you. Smiling
It's my real name funny enough.

But yeah, You picked a somewhat tense time to be coming in.

On February 13th a in forest dance/celebration is being held for valentines day.

It'd be a good one to try and make it to if you want to see many of the active deer all grouped together in one spot.

You also have to factor in the bit of 'fawn disadvantage'.
Disadvantage being: You all look the same.
Assuming everyone is lazy like me it's a bit hard to remember whose fawn belongs to what player unless you really memorize the picto or hang out with them in forest a lot/know the player personally.

Yours is luckily pretty unique and clear/distinct. Smiling

Some players go out of their way to play with fawns. Some get lazy and just ignore them for their patterned friends. It's one of those things. Just be persistent (provided they're not button mashing hate/anger emotes at you) and they'll socialize or give a polite head shake no and a bow to say 'no sorry I don't feel like playing right now.'

If they're just sitting and outright ignoring for a long time then go to sleep I can almost guarantee they're in a window doing something else or just plain not at the computer. I do this all the time. I'll be playing a flash game or chatting on MSN with my deer just sitting there so I have NO idea if anyone came up to play.

Having a sitting deer ignore you shouldn't be necessarily be taken as a rude gesture since most of the time the player isn't actively looking at the forest. Eye

Sometimes you can get them up with a moo+bow+pawing ground (as in 'hey play with me!') gesture but they're probably just not looking to realize someone is saying hello.
Jail's picture

Alecsander- woah, wish I had

Alecsander- woah, wish I had that kind of name, sadly mines not as unique.
feb, 13th, hm well I just checked out the whole" a in forest dance/celebration is being held for valentines day. " thing , and sadly I might not be able to attend unless my laptop actually allows me to connect since the internet is so slow every time (and if i do connect its about 3-4 frps).. so even if i did come in there would be a lot of lag. Ill try , Id really love to come in and meet some nice deer out there. Thanks for the info. Ill make sure to make a note on the action thing with mooing and bowing at them. I figured some are in that situation , altough most of the time i said hello they were talking to other deer and simply turned their heads and then ignored me. I understand : fawns seem the same and boring. Maybe I can ask my friend for a character that is all grown up just for that day so i can actually be recognized. We'll see.
Alecsander's picture

Ah yes, the 3-4 frame rates

Ah yes, the 3-4 frame rates club. I'm in that one.

I'm normally a 4-5 at best myself. It's so hilarious because I can be running across the forest and get chased down by deer *walking*.

Anyway It was nice chatting with you and feel free to hit me up for a conversation any time. It's pretty late here (2 am) so I gotta head to bed due to early classes tomorrow. x)

If you have any more questions or just want to have a friendly chat feel free to leave posts on My main deer Furfur's status page.

You seem pretty awesome as far as new members go and I'll definitely have my eyes peeled for your picto in forest. We can *lag* together. Eye
Jail's picture

Sleep well , its pretty late

Sleep well , its pretty late for me too , 3 am as well I actually am supposed to wake at 6am... anyways ill be happy to lag with you. talk to you tomorrow Alecsander
KittyCatKita's picture

Hey, welcome to the forest!

Hey, welcome to the forest! Seems like Alec cleared everything up for you pretty well ^^ My deer are always approachable, even Keiran, though he is lazy and doesn't really play a whole lot. But my main deer Kita would love to play with your fawn! I will keep my eyes open for your picto and send you a link to their updates page (shows their pictos) when I am not typing on my iPod xD. Again, welcome to the forest, I hope you meet some friendlier deer soon. they are out there, they are just harder to find sometimes

Hey there, welcome to the

Hey there, welcome to the forest and the comunity site ;D

alecsander did a very good job there, answering you questions ^^


hmm it is really a pity you already make such bad experiences... really...

I felt really welcome when i first joined the forest.
But at the moment... people are getting a little.... strange. But don't mind that, there are many, many friendly deer out there. ^^

oh and you are always welcome to aproach one of mine *points to the pictos in her signature*


btw, your picto is big win, indeed xD

edit: please ignore the eypos, i just walked through a snowstorm, my hands are kinda.... frozen |D
Verycrazygirl's picture

It's really saddening all

It's really saddening all these impressions run rampant around for a young player, usually we're better than this. Sad

But anyway, hello Jail! Welcome to The Endless Forest! We hope you can enjoy your time here. Laughing out loud I'll keep an eye out for ya. <3

Welcome Jail! Bawww, I'm

Welcome Jail!
Bawww, I'm really sorry you had to read all of that before interacting with the people of the forest. ;^;

A. Honestly, the same set wearing is a little petty and you should be able to wear what you want. Don't let someone's own thoughts keep you away from the set of your dreams |D It's not like we have a plethera of sets to choose from anyways. X3 For those who get angry over those things need to just deal with it.

B. No it isn't necessary. My deer always greet potential new members and try to be friendly towards them until we get to know each other. I tend to go OOC when I see a picto I don't recognize. So you and you're friend are welcome to come sit, play with any of my deer. ^^

C. Just ignore them, if they can't give you a simple greeting then that's their problem, no yours. There are many people here so don't let their actions ruin it for everyone. ^^

BTW, I love you're picto and name combination |D
Jail's picture

Kita- Thank you! Ill look for

Kita- Thank you! Ill look for Kita and you in forest sometime soon when I get home myself.
Jail's picture

Alicev- Thanks, and I taught

Alicev- Thanks, and I taught so too, she's very nice to me. Ill try and remember your picto's too.(:
Haha, I love my picto too , its the first one that came up and it looked pretty awesome so i picked it. And thats fine, I myself am outside too, where theres snow.
Jail's picture

Very Crazy Girl-Thank you. Im

Very Crazy Girl-Thank you. Im glad to see others would like to meet me in forest. I hope to see you later.

MrsHalloween-
Thanks(:
Pegasicorn's picture

I'm sorry you got a poor

I'm sorry you got a poor impression of the Forest due to some others' rude behavior. That sort of thing should not happen.
I used to get a little annoyed finding a deer has the same set as one of mine, but with how many people there are and the limited number of spells, I more easily tolerate it now. Just as long as the "twin" isn't being a "twin" TO annoy by purposely getting the set to flaunt it in front of the other.
2: I don't usually push anyone away (unless I have a good reason). I understand people have less social deer who don't want company, as long as they aren't rude about showing it. But also make sure you don't bother the deer who make it clear they want to be left alone. Constantly bothering someone who just wants to sit and enjoy the Forest in solitude should have their wish respected. If you still want to be around them, do so from a respectable distance. Who knows? They may break out of their shell if you're respectful about trying to befriend them. =]
3: This annoys me the most. Everyone who greets should at least be greeted back. There are exceptions of course, such as the deer who are just passing and decide to bow to everyone they walk past, leaving too fast to get a bow in return. But I also found there is a rare glitch that makes it so no one will notice you. Literally. The Forest can on very VERY rare occasions make you not visible. I had this happen once; restarting fixed it. There are also a few players who turn player visibility down for whatever reason.

That long comment aside... |D Welcome to the Forest. May your future days in it be more welcoming.
quaesting's picture

Welcome to the forest! With a

Welcome to the forest! With a finite number of masks, pelts, and antlers, it seems inevitable some deer will wear the same thing. I've heard some people don't like it, but honestly it's inevitable and people need to realize that.
I'm sorry you've run into trouble already, I guess I've either been lucky or oblivious so far. I've definitely heard rumors of trouble, though.
I hope to see you in the forest! I will warn you that my deer's actions are sometimes delayed, such as bowing in response, but I'll always try to include others in whatever's going on if they look interested. I just tend to have problems with the game running very slow on my computer, so sometimes if people bow and wait five seconds and run off, I'm still trying to get my cursor to the bow action on my screen. I've had that happen a few times. I hope we meet, and I hope you have better experiences in the future!
KittyCatKita's picture

Jail, now that I am back on a

Jail, now that I am back on a computer I can finally send you that link
Their status page shows if I am online and which deer I am on as well as their pictos ^^ I hope we can meet up in the forest soon!
Bylah's picture

Hi there, Jail! First of all,

Hi there, Jail! First of all, welcome to TEF. You have a really, really awesome picto on your hands, there! Laughing out loud

Second of all, know this: no matter how aggressive deer may seem to be in game, this has got to be, hands down, one of the nicest communities I've ever been in. I've been to a lot of communities, too, but never have I been somewhere where people were so forgiving. Yes, we have our disagreements a lot, but so far, at the end of the day, people are willing to admit that it's all just opinion and we're all entitled to that and we generally don't take stuff personally.

So before I answer your questions(to the best of my ability!), please keep this in mind: what happens in the forest between your deer and someone elses? It's not personal. Please don't think that because someone's deer ignored you, that the player doesn't like you.

My main deer, Bylah, is about as unwelcoming and unfriendly as they come. What he does is his actions, not mine, and chances are, your deer could come up to him and bow, and he would ignore it. On the other hand, my deer Xabraxas would not only bow back, but sniff, nuzzle, and sit beside your deer for hours, if you let him.

Smiling So just keep in mind that the actions of the deer don't necessarily reflect the thoughts of the player - and on the rare chance that they should, it's probably just a misunderstanding.

Moving on!

1.) I, personally, have no issues with someone wearing the same set my deer wear. As it's been pointed out, there are only so many pelts, masks, and antlers out there, so it's sort of inevitable for there to be a little bit of overlap.

2.) To be honest, that wasn't necessary, really. If she did nothing more than bow hello and then got roared at, that's pretty bad, in my book.

3.) This could be for several reasons. If they were sitting and didn't do anything, as it's been pointed out, they may have been away from their keyboard, or doing something in another window; I'm guilty of this, I'll admit it. I'm often watching television, RPing, or even playing another game in another window, so I don't see everything that happens in game, I'll admit.

Keep in mind, also, that 'roaring' doesn't always mean 'go away'. Bellowing in game can be construed as anything from 'go away' to 'hi!'. Next time, moo back at them. If they start displaying threatening postures(Lowering antlers, faux charges), or shake their head no, then that might be a sign of saying go away. But mooing, in and of itself, I usually don't take to mean 'scram'. Smiling

In closing - don't be afraid to come to us with questions like this. Everyone here plays the game very differently, so it's always a good idea to ask if someone does something that you think might be aggression/anger. This way, there's a chance that the person who did it can read your post and clarify what their deer meant to do. Smiling I promise, no one here is going to get angry with you over simple, polite questions. We're definitely not that kind of community.

I know your first impression might not have been the best, but remember that there's no real set 'rules' on how to play TEF, so we all do it differently. Try to be open minded about how each action could be interpreted, and I think you'll find your experience a lot more pleasant.

Again, welcome to TEF. :3 Hope to see you in the forest!


Zeekii's picture

Aw, I'm sorry to hear you

Aw, I'm sorry to hear you didn't have a nice welcome =/
But anyway...Hello Sticking out tongue
1 ) I don't mind if people are wearing the same set as my deer, it's how you see the character in your head...and I'm sure no one see's their deer in the same way even if they wear the same set ^^
2 ) I don't know what was going on there...if my deer was with a fawn, I'd surely let you play with him/her...
3 ) Hm...if I saw you, I'd surely bow to you, unless I'm looking at the TV screen and just running/jumping about. Then I wouldn't notice, and I'm sorry if I did ignore you. If I did, it wasn't on purpose.

I hope you have a better day tomorrow ^^
trigger_mortis's picture

Hello as well! You seem to be

Hello as well! You seem to be well taken care of here with the friendly members all offering advice! Just wanted to pop in to say that if you ever see my deer Tails' picto (just the one in my signature) feel free to come on over. I'm also part of the lag club, so he may be a little slow to respond, but he always will play with fawns and anyone who wants to!

Welcome to the forest. Smiling
Jail's picture

Pegasicorn - I see , Thank

Pegasicorn -
I see , Thank you for the warm welcoming Pegasicorn. I hope they are too.



quaesting -
I hope to see you in forest soon , too. Im glad to see someone wants to hang out. And I have the same problem too since my game runs to a 3-4 frps thing. Sticking out tongue





KittyCatKita -
Me too , im just worried I wont remember who is who yet and confused you, haha.






Bylah-
Thanks for the compliment and the welcoming!
And yeah, I understand now that you said that what the deal is with all this stuff thats been going on. Bylah sounds like an interesting deer even tough a little rough on the edge, Ill be sure to leave him be and keep a big distance away, I just want everyone to be happy and not bothered by anything. Ill keep in mind about the roaring part ,too and see what they say back.
Ill also ask any questions if i have more. Thank you for the detailed and nice reply. (Also, I really enjoy reading your storys, Ive read most of them by now and I think Bylah is a fascinating ...I wouldnt say deer id say God , really. (even if michael and aurea are consider to be the gods of in forest , in my opinion to me in your description bylah is the god of the sky(?).
Hope to see you in forest soon too.






Zeekii - Thats alright, Im doing better now.
Hope to see you in forest.


trigger_mortis- Yeah, im quiet surprised myself of all this attention. Im really enjoying my time today in this community.Ill make sure to come over if I Tails in forest and say hello. Ill be glad to lag with you. Sticking out tongue.


Alecsander's picture

We usually fawn over our new

We usually fawn over our new members. Eye

Jail's picture

haha, well Im really happy

haha, well Im really happy today, and the three deer i met today were very nice , Im pretty much getting the hang of this.
Bylah's picture

Bylah is many things, but

Bylah is many things, but he's definitely no God. Though, he's not a demon, either. :3 Though I'm glad you enjoy the stories!


Alecsander's picture

It's Jail! Sorry, saw your

It's Jail! Sticking out tongue

Sorry, saw your name on the list and figured this was the best blog to put this in.
If you're planning on heading in forest any time soon I'd happily hang out. x) I, kita, and a handful of others are in running about.
Jail's picture

Alec- Id love to but im

Alec- Id love to but im having the same problem as you did a few weeks ago, some weird blue screen keeps on showing up and my computer is currently (well laptop) being attacked by some virus program that my norton cant detect and im really dissapointed at Vista since I havent gone anywhere when it comes to harmful sites aka: ive only gone on youtube deviantart and this site so i dont see how i got this thing trough my firewall D: .... kk im done complaining , hopefully ill get this fixed by Tuesday my time and repaired , im about to return the computer from where i got it and let them fix it, i tried finiding my Vista CD so i can "wipe" out my computers memory and start all over just like when i first baught it , if im able to get in forest , ill make shure to moo spam and let you know im there Sticking out tongue

Take care Sad
Alecsander's picture

Ah that's sad. I'm sorry

Ah that's sad. I'm sorry that's happening. I'm sure wiping to will do it wonders of good. Smiling

Thanks for the heads up and I hope you get it all worked out!
Jail's picture

Yeah , Lets hope it works

Yeah , Lets hope it works soon... No problem , im shure its only gonna take about two to three days.
Alecsander's picture

Sure thing. Cheers mate.

Sure thing.

Cheers mate. Smiling