I completely agree. I'm usually rather social till something happens, then I become afraid to say anything 'cause I don't want it happening again. And I admit, half the time it's my fault simply because I don't know how to word things right to make sure people understand me the way I'm trying to perceive.....and walking on those egg shells are more like nails sometimes.

Did I accidentally kill this thread?

Don't think so xD

Yeah, I know how you feel, Winged.

Pleasw no one kill me for saying this, but.... sometimes, I feel like we kinda.... well, it seems like older players seem to stick with the older players, and the young with younger. I've always admired the vets XD who can make brillant CSS and know the forest inside out. Those, in turn, are widely admired by the community.

I can't help but notice.... it always seems like the same group of people are commenting on my posts. Don't get me wrong, I love you all, but sometimes I feel a bit... overlooked? Because I'm newer? Sometimes, I wonder if the reason I'm overlooked is because I don't draw art, or I can't make pretty CSS blogs. Then again, maybe I just overeacting, and being a bit selfish.

Or is there a so called "generation gap" here?

Ok, sorry! It's just.... this has really been bugging me for a while.... I needed to say something. Maybe I am overeacting, maybe I am being selfish. But I know what's it's like to be left out, and it hurts.

So... maybe.... ack, so scared to say this now.... maybe it's time for us to all reach out to one another. We're a the greastest community ever, after all!

Sorry about that. I don't mean to start anything. In fact, I'm a bit scared to post my views on here because of possible negative feedback. I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.

As time goes on, this is affecting me more and more. I'm starting to feel, well quite honestly a bit overlooked. Poppy, that was such a way to put it, I couldn't have said it better myself. By posting this I don't want to seem whiny, I promise, but it seems to me that TEFc does kinda have cliques, even though we aren't being mean to each other it still causes problems. I feel like I'm being ignored a little, actually. :'D I am trying to branch out more, I was fairly good friends with one person around when I joined, but I haven't seen her around here in a while and it worries me a lot because I care about her. Anyway, I am starting to feel like just because I'm new I'm being passed over and ignored. I'm sorry I feel like this, but I do.

@Poppy: Don't be afraid, you're braver than I am. I felt all those things at one point, got so frustrated I almost quit, but I can't because these characters are basically the only ones that keep my interest anymore since my writing muse has gone down the drain. It's an escape. But, I came from a place where I was one of the "Oldies". I was respected, liked(hopefully) and basically up there on the ladder-in some regard- but here, I have to carve my way again. It's difficult, frustrating when you do everything you can but you know you're just passed up as that spazzy newbie. What hurts worse is I did the same before I gave up that site for this one. So, yeah. It doesn't help that the majority is so much older than you are and is so well established. It's daunting when you're new and you try to make a name for yourself. Don't worry. I don't have some snazzy art program or tablet. I don't have photoshop. My drawings are sketchy at best, though I like them better when I go over them in paint. I am just now starting to understand CSS, but it's not enough to make everything awesome. I've only been drawing, genuinely, for a year. Not only that, but art is more of a forced hobby than a natural one. I don't have a natural talent for it. If anything at all, I got the writer side of the gene, not the drawing side.

Basically, just deal with what you have. That's what I'm doing. It's kind of like: "I do what I do, just learn how to deal with it. Accept it." Kind of harsh, but it was the only way I could stop myself from losing it and leaving. Heck, I joined in September, but I didn't even join the site until March because I was so daunted by this website.

I hope you found my point in there...somewhere.

You guyssssss. <3333
And Acer, I'd like to apologize. MSN's derpiness fueled how I was feeling, and I should have just asked you instead of doing nothing. <3 /smacksmsn/

Pepsi and Poppy, I just don't know what to say. <3333 So much loveeee -hugs-

I've seen people fighting this, and that is wonderful, but there's always room for improvement and personally I think that I can try harder than I am.

GAH THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH <3

Yeah, I understand what you're saying, Sicily. I don't even know where I got the guts to post that. XD

Pepsi: -glomp-

COMING FROM A 15 WEEKER WOOHOOO

Same for me, especially lately. Only 3 deer are playing that they notice or know that Cali is missing. A few of the deer she hung out with the most aren't noticing or anything. Of course they don't know what happened, Brooks and Orin have been away.....but don't you think someone would notice if their little friend has been absent for some time? If no one misses her then what's the point of allowing her to return. I could easily say she dies in the shadow world and that is that...no one knows what becomes of her.

I've noticed a lack of attention to some other new players as well. They're trying to meet people, in their way, but it's just not happening. How can we be successful players if people stay to their cliques and not meet anyone new? We have to go in circles, I play Orin's daughter then her mother and she has to play her character's own grandfather and this person is playing one deer's father and brother and fawn on various pictos....we can't find anyone to integrate into our RP families. We have to create our own characters if we want to expand. Three people, between them, play 2-4 family members each. I think it's pathetic we have to resort to that. And no I'm not demanding friendship or whatever but we can't get more players to fill these needed roles if they're feeling unwelcome and unappreciated for their contribution to the site and to the roleplay and end up leaving because of it. The same old players will keep going with the same old thing....nothing ever changing.

Now I'm not trying to blame older players,i've interacted with them and their characters and admire them,considering i've been here for at least a year and a half.You could say i'm guilty for hanging around the same crowd too(ily guys though <3),thats probably because,since they know me better,I feel more comfortable,and I know how their characters react IC better too.So it's a lot less awkward.To many times have I come across a new character and awkward silences/staring contest insued.
But i'm trying to step out of my comfort zone,being active on the community is a great start for one thing.

Ffff Pepsi,Calida,Sicily,Jinxy,and Poppy,Ily ;A;

Yeah. I don't want to blame anyone. But I think it would be great for us all to interact more

The great thing about this place? Everyone's opinions can be heard.

I LOVE YOU GUISE

<3

Probably what no one wants to hear, guess I can't offer up a 'Going to make everyone feel better' type of post, by saying I will comment more, or befriend people, all of that. Not always a bad thing to maybe look at it in a different way.

I think everyone at some point is able to understand what it feels like to be left out. I also think everyone is able to reach a point where they can step back and say to themselves, "I have enough, I cherish what I do have". It can be hard since in some way or another most people crave attention, or more attention than what they already receive.

Yeah, some people get overlooked. It happens everywhere. Relying on this game though, this community even to gain something you feel like you're missing... no good. A person has to kind of branch out if they're feeling that overlooked, lonely, unappreciated, ect... And I don't necessarily mean branch out here, I mean the endless selection of community involved places out there. Relying on this game to achieve attention and satisfaction is no good, especially if someone is feeling that left out. Not saying some of you haven't tried to branch out, by the way.

Wouldn't it be energy better spent elsewhere? Not trying to put anyone down at all, nor is that a way to make someone feel cast off or trying to make them leave, but if someone is truly feeling that left out and lonely, it just seems, in my mind, to be easier to check out other places. Doesn't mean you have to entirely give up on TEF, it is after all a lovely and fun game, but people shouldn't rely so heavily on the community and its members to cure someones feeling overlooked or their loneliness. People can try to do better though, and some people have been trying.

With that said, it would be nice if people worked to make those feeling overlooked not feel that way anymore, but it's just not how it -usually- works, and yet I have personally seen quite a few people trying harder too, but then stuff like this pops up again, would maybe make their efforts seem fruitless? It's hard to target every single person who is feeling left out, and therefor simply a never ending cycle. Someone, somewhere is always going to feel left out. Maybe since it was mentioned you'll get what you wanted though, hmm.

At least some people are trying.

Not everyone is for everyone kind of thing. Think there comes a point where a person has to kind of learn to brush such things off and move along. If not here, you're bound to run into similar situations elsewhere. Maybe not everywhere, but somewhere. Take what friends and attention you do have/get and be happy/thankful for that.

And with my monster post posted I'll now recede.
Can't really help people if they're dead set on getting more attention/comments, but can maybe help them be okay with what they do have.

About time someone brought everything back to where it should be. Thanks.

IMO people come here TO interact, make new friends, and have fun.



Sooo....how about just doing that in the first place instead of scaring people away?

and unfortunately, in character or not, there's always going to be people who don't connect with each other. It doesn't mean they aren't liked, or they want to scare them away. It's just like real life, unfortunately.

Not everyone is going to get along, even in a game.

Thank you for posting that, Sianna. I whole-heartedly agree with every word.

I really do agree with everything said, even if I myself have only been here in the forest for a little over a month. At first, I felt truly out of place. That newbie in the doorway sort of glancing around to find a place I could fit in. Even if I still feel like that from time to time, especially after if I don't come on for a few days, I always try to comment on a few things. c:

That's why I'm trying to get more into the rp part of things and actually have my characters interact and not just sit there and look pretty.


Weeee for trying to be more involved. <3

Hey guys, can I ask you something?

Do I have a reputation?

God, I don't like to think about it, nor do I like to talk about it.

But let me ask:

Do you guys think I'm immature?

A brat?

Troll?

Or any words like that?

Because of what happened?

I'm sorry guys. I know I've said it before a million times but I'm sorry I kinda ruined this place.

I've been thinking about getting a new account but I feel as though throwing away this one will be like throwing away the good memories that I somehow managed to have.

Yeah, me either 0.0

But you don't seem that to me

^This.

Blue-
It's pretty much been forgotten, far's I can tell. I didn't pay much attention when it was going on, and it certainly doesn't seem to be a problem now. I've never had issues with you. Nothing's been ruined. People still come together and play and have fun. Keep your good memories. Build new ones. There's no need to hide and be ashamed.

Blue, I barely remember what happened. My memory is naturally terrible, but I do remember some things and the fact that I do not remember anything that happened tells me that it wasn't that big of a deal at all. You do NOT seem like any of those negative things that you just said! *hug*


I've been stalking this topic for a while. Haven't read everything here because I'm lazy but I agree with a lot of things that have been said.
We have a great community here, but we often forget to communicate more. Not just talking about problems and issues, but talking to new people and all that stuff. Nothing makes me think that we're doomed for failure. Still though, we all can try a little harder c:


For me it's a little tough because nearly all of my friends who originally played TEF with me and my deer have quit. My first characters have lost a lot of their contacts and so it gets lonely. I do have them approach others, but I get lazy and discouraged so not much happens and they become inactive. By no means is that an excuse to give up >o I need to try harder!


I.. I just drank non-decaf coffee (which I'm not supposed to do) so all of that.. up there is really disjointed and weird lol ;;
Lately I've been craving a sort of community get-together sort of party thing where people would be encouraged to meet others and just chat. I was thinking of having a Synchtube party, but I'm apprehensive because oftentimes conversations turn into discussions about their characters and those who aren't familiar with the characters in question are left out. Dunno. I might try something sometime in the next upcoming days. we'll see!


Everybody (everydeer? *too much My Little Pony*) is welcome to hang out with my deer or hit me up for a chat anytime! I should add myself to those contact thingies..