A TEF art class! (Updated 5-Oct)

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5 OCT - Feeling better, and back to business! :3 Also realizing that I really need a better way to organize this! My goodness, this blog is getting huge.

It's quite a mess to sort through right now. Any and all help is always appreciated, but I will certainly try to figure something out to make it a bit more readable and eye-friendly.

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So Nopje finally kicked my butt into gear, and here I am. :3

I have been wanting to start up a very big project here in the TEF community, but I'm not sure how many people would be interested, or how exactly it should be set up.


Basically, I'd like to set up a kind of art class just for TEF!
We have so many awesome artists here, but I've noticed so many other aspiring artists who are eager to learn! I think this might be an excellent way to pull the community together and have some fun.

I'm hoping that we can run the classes every week. Each week, a different 'mentor' will lead the class. Each mentor is completely in charge of creating their own lesson plan, assignments, etc. It can be as detailed, or as vague as you'd like, it's all up to you -- just make sure it only takes one week, after that it's the next mentor's turn!

If you'd like to be a mentor, just let me know, and we'll compile a big list of volunteers. (:

Everyone in the community is free to give advice at any time in the class. Basically, the mentor simply comes up with the lesson plan, but everyone can take part sharing advice, tips, critique, etc. on the topic at hand. That way anyone is free to share their knowledge and help teach the class, even if they don't want the responsibility of being a mentor.

There will be NO members list (aside from the mentors list, of course). You can join every single week, or just every once in a while -- or even not at all, popping in to give tips and advice but not completing any assignments. It should be very open and easy for everyone. Just come to 'class' when you feel interested, whether to teach or to learn.


Additional Ideas...

♦ We can have people volunteer their deer to be drawn by the class -- that way, the class has something TEF-related to practice with, and there's a great opportunity for free fanart! Volunteered deer will go into a pool and be pulled out and random when needed.

♦ Maybe there could be times when the class joins up on iscribble? (shamiya)

♦ A resources blog with links to tutorials and anatomy help. (shamiya)






Suggested Topics
(items with an asterisk [*] are in especially high demand)

♦ Digital painting (general) ***
♦ Digital painting (specifically: lineless painting)
♦ Water
♦ Expressions *
♦ Lighting
♦ Lineart *
♦ Cell shading
♦ Composition
♦ Dynamic drawing
♦ Atmosphere
♦ Deer hooves & legs! ****
♦ Fur techniques *
♦ Colour
♦ Anatomy (general, deer) **


Possible Mentor List

♦ Shaku?
♦ TheSnalf? (speed paints, anatomy)
♦ Pandoras (anatomy, traditional)
♦ Terabetha (anatomy, shading)
♦ Tuhka? (painting, anatomy)
♦ Eyestrain (painting, photoshop, color)






What we need...

Mentors! We'll always need plenty of mentors, so please don't be shy if it sounds like fun. Of course, you can always sign up later if you'd like. (: There's no deadline or prerequisites, just let me know and I'll add your name to the list.

Ideas for topics! What do you want to learn about? I think it would be great to compile a list to give our mentors some nice ideas for class topics.

♦ Ideas, suggestions, comments, questions, concerns, and feedback on the class in general! c:




If you need to contact me for whatever reason, you can find me at (email) or (MSN). ♥


The's picture

This sounds like a lot of

This sounds like a lot of fun.. and something to do while I can't play the actual game. Smiling

♥~!!

♥~!!

Spyrre's picture

Sounds like a good idea!

Sounds like a good idea! <3
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shamiya's picture

This idea is brilliant. I

This idea is brilliant. I would join this 'class'. Sticking out tongue

Oh, maybe there could be times when the class joins up on iscribble. ~ suggestion.
lemon's picture

I think it would be a lot of

I think it would be a lot of fun -- both to help teach, and to participate in. c: I'm glad it seems to be a good idea, so far! <3

Oh, the iscribble idea is great! I'll add that to the little list. (;
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*Thumbs up*

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Serrod's picture

I would love to join! The

I would love to join! The only problem is that I don't have a tablet and I can not draw with a mouse to save my life. Hopefully I'll be able to get a new one soon.
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Munkel's picture

This sounds great 8D

This sounds great 8D

Nodnodnod!

Nodnodnod!
DinahMoon's picture

I'm with Serrod on this one.

I'm with Serrod on this one. No tablet. Does anybody on here draw with a mouse? If so, please link me to your works!
lemon's picture

:3 I'm so glad to see such

:3 I'm so glad to see such interest! I'm going to be doing a lot of thinking on how exactly to set this up, but I'd like to have as much of the community involved as possible.

So any and all suggestions are more than welcomed, at this point! <3

Serrod: If you have a scanner or digital camera, you can always draw with pencil and paper!

Dinahmoon: click! About 4 years ago, entirely with a mouse. c: That's all I've got! But like I told Serrod, you can always use traditional media.
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shamiya's picture

I did this with a mouse a few

I did this with a mouse a few years ago. - removed, it was done with a laptop pad not a mouse. My bad. Sad
Unplugged's picture

It sounds like a great idea,

It sounds like a great idea, but I have a few (okay, not just a few) questions about how this would work in practice. :x

Would these "lessons" be like.. weekly, at a certain time or would they be spontaneous? What kind of subjects would be dealt with in those "lessons" - Art in general or just TEF-Related? Would there be certain themes or just random tips concerning drawing? What exactly is the work of a "mentor"? Will "teachers" have to ask to be "mentoring", or is everyone free to do so?
How many artists would actually be willing to participate actively?

As for deer-volunteers, would a deer be randomly chosen to be "featured" each time?
Would there be a certain member-list, or can anyone participate in those lessons?
Would there be certain "tasks" for participants as well? ((e.g Try drawing a deer/this character in a dynamic pose, try drawing a TEF-Set realistically, try drawing a deer using only cool colours, stuff like that ...))

If so, people could maybe post their work in the thread and share it. There could also be some sort of archive of all "lessons" had, including the task for that lesson and the pictures sent in.

What about critique? Would there be a possibility to ask for crits on a certain piece? Would only "teachers" be allowed to critique, or everyone?
DinahMoon's picture

Lemon - very inspiring! I am

Lemon - very inspiring! I am brand new to photoshop and have been working with a mouse, and was completely on the verge of getting a tablet, but after seeing this I might stick with what I have. Smiling
Serrod's picture

I personally do not own a

I personally do not own a scanner, but my roommate does. I'm not sure if it works though, she's never used it.
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I'd be willing to help with

I'd be willing to help with traditional art.

I know how to use my tablet and all, but I have a better feel for pens and pencilwork.
I'm also always ready to learn (:

I'm all for this idea.
Teffy's picture

This is a fantastic idea.

Shocked This is a fantastic idea.

Love it. &hearts;

Love it. ♥
lemon's picture

Unplugged: Ah, this is the

Unplugged: Ah, this is the type of feedback I was hoping for. Here we go... long post is long! D:

Right now, I'm looking more or less for ideas. What I have in mind is completely vague, and depends entirely on what the community would like best. I have run a few art "classes" online, before -- but TEF isn't like most communities, so I don't think a traditional highly-structured type of class would work well (with just one or two teachers).



Here's my tentative idea: the classes are run weekly. There are two levels of 'teachers' -- mentors, and classmates.

Mentors are volunteers who have applied for the position (unlimited slots, so there's no competition), and will take turns leading the class (roughly) every week. If that particular mentor isn't around, the next up can step in to take their place. It's up to each mentor to decide how the class is structured, what will be taught, what assignments will be done, etc -- as long as it stays within about one week. After that, it's the next mentor's turn to run the class.

However, everyone is free to give advice. Basically, the mentor simply comes up with the lesson plan, but everyone takes part sharing advice, tips, critique, etc. on the topic at hand. This is the second level of 'teachers' that I talked about -- the classmates. So that way anyone is free to share their knowledge and help teach the class, even if they don't want the responsibility of being a mentor.



I thought perhaps the deer- volunteers can be put into a large pool and pulled out at random whenever a 'model' is needed, such as for assignments (i.e., this week, we'll be practising anatomy; our subject is so-and-so). (:


There will certainly not be any members list (aside from the mentors list, of course). I find that to be way too intimidating for people just starting out, and I'd rather have a much more open format. I'm thinking of ConceptArt's type of assignment-based projects, where a weekly theme is posted, and everyone responds if they feel like it (no obligation to do it again next week, or to sign up anywhere, etc -- just do it if it interests you).


I definitely want assignments such as what you mentioned. That is certainly the kind of stuff I'd like this centered around -- teaching, exploring, and putting into practice all kinds of different art-related things.


Everyone should be allowed to post their assignments for feedback, and everyone should be allowed to give critique, as well. Like I said, I don't want this to become too structured... I don't think that would get on very well. I want this to be a real community thing. Also, an archive is a definite must. We can keep track of all of the lessons, that way.


Phew. I think that's all? Great questions! :3 I'm more than happy to hear more feedback, if anyone has any!
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Apeldille's picture

YES. This is an awesome

YES.

This is an awesome idea. I have been thinking about how to give something back to this nice cimmunity for a long time and if I could help people get better with art (and at the same time get better myself) it would be amazing.

Tracking this!

shamiya's picture

Maybe someone can compile a

Maybe someone can compile a list of links that show deer anatomy and such as well. - I have a book that has some anatomy in it, I could always scan those pages to add in.
lemon's picture

Apeldille - I'm glad you

Apeldille - I'm glad you think it's a good idea! :3 I hope it will work out~ I'm feeling a bit nervous, now, haha!

shamiya - Oh, that's also an excellent idea! Do we already have a little resources blog somewhere, with links to tutorials and such? If not, that would definitely be a great idea to start...
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Quote:Maybe someone can

Quote:
Maybe someone can compile a list of links that show deer anatomy and such as well. - I have a book that has some anatomy in it, I could always scan those pages to add in.

+1 to this! I've been collecting a few deer anatomy links for my link collection and I have some books that explain deer anatomy really well. I thought of scanning and sharing them before but I'm not sure about copyright concerns here. I've done a bit of research but I'm still a bit unsure of how "legal" it is.
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Yesyesyes. 8D This is a

Yesyesyes. 8D
This is a brillant idea, I'd love to improve my art ... and help where I can, even if I doubt I could |D
Tracking so far~ (:
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lemon's picture

Quote:+1 to this! I've been

Quote:
+1 to this! I've been collecting a few deer anatomy links for my link collection ....


Ah, this is exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of. (Beautiful css, by the way). This would be a great resource to link to. c:
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Unplugged's picture

Thanks, it's still pretty

Thanks, it's still pretty empty. Smiling Actually it's mainly concentrated on blogs and coding but I've been planning on adding a few more artsy stuff.
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ohmygosh i need this! it

ohmygosh i need this! it sounds fantastic!:DDD

This sounds awesome! :'D

This sounds awesome! :'D

Hraeth's picture

Love this idea~ Mostly just a

Love this idea~
Mostly just a tracking post here until I can read through everything. :'3
Clora's picture

I'm in love with this idea.

I'm in love with this idea. An online class that focuses on TEF art. It's like a dream come true.

I'm just worried about feeling a little left-out. I know I'm not the only one who doesn't do digital art and I personally will probably not move onto it. It's good you can upload your art and everything but there's just that little thing in my head...

Just ignore me. I really want to join the class.
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Tuhka's picture

This sounds really

This sounds really interesting. I might be willing to help with it whenever I have time. :]
Verdalas's picture

I support this idea. Lately

I support this idea. Lately I've been wanting more than anything to be able to draw better. =(

dinahmoon, my profile pic was

dinahmoon, my profile pic was done with a mouse...and i have a tablet now, but it's not as good as paper and pencil

i dont need help with the actual drawing part, it's the coloring and the fur that get me! >:S
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Alriiight, in response to

Alriiight, in response to your answers now, this sounds really great. I also had the system of ConceptArt in mind. :b
I like the whole idea of everyone having "equal rights" and the mentors basically just giving the topic and some food for thought for everyone else. My only concern about this is still the possibility that we might lack users willing to mentor. Not that we lack great artists - there are seriously so many creative and experienced artists on TEF - but maybe it's just not enough to keep it active, even if we have more mentors.
Maybe I'm just being negative though. :b
lemon's picture

Clora -- I will not ignore

Clora -- I will not ignore you! D:<

I hope nobody will get left out. That's definitely something to avoid at all costs! The optimistic side of me says that it won't be a problem... but I think that's just something we'll have to address as it comes up, unless someone has an awesome idea so that nobody can ever possibly feel left out?


Unplugged -- I'm a little afraid of this, too. But then I think, oh well, it's worth at least trying. (: I don't know how my schedule looks, but I can try to host the classes as much as possible until we get a few mentors listed. Once a week isn't too bad...

The more people who sign up to be mentors, the easier it will be to be a mentor, because you won't have to lead the class as often.

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This would be awesome, I

This would be awesome, I would love to learn a thing or two ♥
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TheSnalf's picture

Oh yes

Oh yes <3

This is a wonderful idea!
I would love to help out when I can!
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MEMEMEEMEMEMEMM! sign me

MEMEMEEMEMEMEMM! sign me upers! :3
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Tracking because I have to

Tracking because I have to get back to homework ><
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Zeekii's picture

This will be awesome if all

This will be awesome if all goes well! *-*

Yes. please. *v*

Yes. please. *v*
eyestrain's picture

I will support this in

I will support this in whatever way you find necessary. I am eager to learn and willing to teach whatever I know.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
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I support this. c:

I support this. c:
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I LOVE THIS

I LOVE THIS <3
I'd be happy to be both an instructor as well as a student, I like the idea of multiple teachers, since styles vary. It would be nice to have themes for a class (for instance one could be anatomy, another sketching techniques, ex.) and also now that I think about it that way, it would be nice if there was a blog where people could vote for the topic of the next class (since it seems best to teach people what they want to learn Sticking out tongue). I'll give this idea more thought today and see if I can think up any other suggestions!

edit: I also just realized I have several anatomy books (human and animal, including deer, realism and cartoon) so I'll scan those this weekend and compile a little reference package. C:
shamiya's picture

bump? i'm still interested in

bump? i'm still interested in this!
lemon's picture

Sorry guys, I've come down

Sorry guys, I've come down with a pretty nasty flu virus, so I will be a bit inactive for a few days.

Feel free to keep adding suggestions. I'll update the topic a bit, but I'm not planning on anything too ambitious until I'm feeling better. @___@ eughhhwhynow.
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Sounds nifty~ Feel better

Sounds nifty~
Feel better soon, Lemon!
eyestrain's picture

I would be willing to mentor

I would be willing to mentor in digital painting, adjustments in photoshop, and very basic color theory.

I would like to learn about deer anatomy, specifically legs and antlers.

Take care.

I don't strive to be the best, but instead I strive to do my best, and always give it my all every time.
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I think that learning about

I think that learning about deer anatomy in general will help, but perhaps the legs? Mine always fail. Hooves and all.