Please Stop.
February 5, 2010 - 5:53am — Alecsander
We do not want to roleplay with you.
We do not want to fight.
This has been made very clear.
You're being extremely rude and relentless in harassing all of the deer by the pond.
No one has done anything to you and you have repeatedly attacked everyone there.
Please, just stop.
If you want to go attack and be mean to you friends then by all means go ahead. I don't care if you run around trying to crack in the skulls of all of your friend's deer.
I don't, however, appreciate walking down to see my friend and getting chased into the pond/attacked for stepping into the water.
I honestly have no idea whose deer this is or what the player's problem is but I kindly ask them to tone it down or confine it to only players who get a kick out of having an RD after them.
New Edit:
Seriously? If you're not even going to read the comments to find out why this escalated beyond 'hey who is this and why are they being so rude?' then just do a favour and don't post. I mean really, it's beyond the initial issue now due to unexpected response.
@IoRez I don't think your
I don't think your getting the point. Deer like Envy and Walter don't attack every single deer they see on the screen, they only attack or 'taunt' those that bother them over and over. We have grumpy deer, if you dont like it, just deal with it. The best way for this would eitehr be to ignore us, or just move away from the spot of conflict.
I support equality, but harrassment will not be alloud. If a deer is being an RD then you have the right to report it. A good example is the RDs from the past, or 'the flea', who continuously day after day show this behavior. But if a deer is resting, and you run up to it randomly and nuzzle it/sit beside it, and it gets up and taunts you, I would suggest that you dont do that to that deer anymore.
Personally I think we should all just deal with it because nobody can change the way another person acts within the forest if they don't want to.
Please DON'T delete this
This is LONG overdue. People need to stop being asses because people run up to their cracks and stick their noses so far up they can't even see what the person is doing anymore.
I really wasn't wanting to
When this screenshot was taken Kita and I just arrived and Walter ran to every deer in the area, laying down or moving and started taunting and rearing at them. I put Kita in between every single one of them and made her 'sad'+'no' to try to get him not to attack these deer. They weren't doing anything to him. He merely ran over and started attacking them. When he had taunted/reared at every single one of them he ran off to go find someone else.
But THIS ISN'T WHAT THIS IS ABOUT NOW!
Right now we are dealing with the issue of someone using their IC deer to speak to a player OOC and telling them to do rather rude things that had no reason to be said.
There is no hostilitiy toward Walter, we aren't talking about Walter. We are talking about how Ver used her deer to tell off a human being. This should not be tolerated. There were many ways that could have been said for Ver to get the point across that Walter was just that way and that is how he is played. She didn't need to get him, an in game character who knows nothing about the real world, to tell Alecsander to go fuck herself.
Hi passes round donuts, i
i thought this had been resolved, um pardon me for saying but Walters owner did not say the "F" word so how do people know what the word was?, Could have been anything, (eg: stuff) and what if as it was said in the voivce of the Charter it could be a joky way. We know the charaters personaliy so perhaps this was in charater and not The ower her self as she clearly stated she has nout against Alecander.
It's just a thought, any wasy i hope this gets resolved soon, i'm getting bord of it on the front page. Take care everyone. No matter what you say or how it's said i think your all amazing people.
I think this is what makes
Yes, we have gone through this kind of an argument before. I've seen it several times since I've been here. The problem is that even after the dust is cleared, everything will go back to the way it was before this quarrel.
Noone can stop people from claiming that their deer are really wolves that eat fawns. Noone can stop 'evil' deer from being evil. Noone can stop Walter from having angry moods.
No, I'm not condoning Verdy's actions, but at the same time, well...he is Quad's adoptive father. I think the POINT of TEF is that things like this happen, and we can either interpret it to be aggression, or we can ignore it and move on. Either way, just please enjoy the Forest.
here here (tips hat and
Onyx, If the word was not
If the word was not offensive it would not have to be censored.
This was a player to player discussion and it was not necessary for a character to be there in the first place.
If we're going to play the character game then Bylah has already pointed out that Walter has no way of knowing what was said to Verdalas out of character about how the deer was acting.
It was unnecessary for the character to tell me to go *bleep* myself even if it was 'in character'.
I am a player, not a character, and expected better of another than to use their character to reply so rudely. Apparently there is the feelings that you can 'get away' with saying unnecessarily rude things provided you do it 'in character'.
No one ever forced you to click the link and get involved with this thread. You can ignore it. If you notice, you chose to bump it back up to the first page by reply so please do not attempt to pass the blame on me for it's continued lifespan. Multiple users on and off site have asked me to not delete this blog because it is becoming a more common issue that needs to be addressed.
I am quite dedicated to only bumping it up when necessary (once a week at most) until it gets resolved as not to interfere with the new content being posted.
@Quad- For the love of..
Please Read Kita's comment above.
This thread has not been about the deer Walter's conduct in forest since about the third post.
I've already stated multiple times after the fact that now that I know Walter is played as an RD I can ignore him and was just confused whether the deer was initially a troll one or not.
The point is that Verdalas decided, in a mature discussion between players, to have her deer pop in and tell me to go *bleep* myself. It was unnecessary and completely uncalled for. She could have handled it in a far more mature manner (by just saying 'sorry that is how i play him) or even a less mature manner by stating it boldly to me player to player but choose instead to avert blame by having 'the deer' say it. I do not believe that users should be able to 'get away' with saying unnecessarily rude hurtful things to other players just because they type 'my character says...' before hand.
This thread has not been
I've already stated multiple times after the fact that now that I know Walter is played as an RD I can ignore him and was just confused whether the deer was initially a troll one or not.
So again, you are saying that as the character is established as an RD, the in-forest behavior is accpetable in this instance. However, if it were a lesser/unknown deer behaving in the same manner, the behavior becomes unacceptable. So it becomes a matter of determining intention?
This may not be the part of this issue you wish to discuss, but I think this has always been the root of the matter. In Forest/ out of Forest/ in character / out of character conflict keeps cropping up, and this very same discussion keeps happening. If you don't see the connection between the two issues, it might be because you haven't read the previous 250 rant posts on the same topic. Or maybe you have.
I personally think there is a profound connection between player and chracter that reveals itself in many ways, one of them being precisely this kind of conflict - a player with a charcter who is comfortable griefing you in Forest also doesn't seem to have any problem telling you to eff off IRL (only in character, of course). Maybe there is no relation between these two things, but based on my previous experiences on this forum and in Forest, I believe there is.
right shut up and listen for
i have another two cents worth.
is this about anything in particular, or is this constant ranting just a way to let off all of the tension, because i think this needs to be allowed to happen to let the community get happy again...but of course its just a thought.
go back to ranting.
IoRez, I agree with
I agree with everything you say and also believe that it is not acceptable in forest behavior. The problem is that the community as a whole has decided that 'anyone can play their deer in forest how they want' and we're not allowed to be angry at a player for the conduct of their 'deer'.
I just don't want to fight that battle right now. It never gets anywhere and just ends with everyone running about going "ITS NOT A PROBLEM LALALA" and nothing ever being decided.
It seems..futile. People seem to want to be able to be mean spirited/rude/aggressive in forest and get personally snippy/prone to attack if someone says "No. This is rude and unacceptable." It also seems the majority of forest players side with players who have rude/mean deer so it's 2-3 people going "Hey, you know that really isn't necessary" and everyone else going "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN FUCK OFF CAUSE THEY HAVE FREEDOM AND THEY CAN PLAY HOW THEY WANT." or "Hey that character has been that way forever! No one else said anything so clearly you're the moron!"
Then next thing you know every time your enter the forest your deer gets mobbed by that player's friends and that player taking it out on you.
I'm sorry to say but the
This is a great example of why the community is becoming so crap and falling apart. Well done, to all characters like this. Really. Well done.
It's pathetic but do you know what? I just can't do a damn thing about it. No one listens.
But to me honest guys I would just stop complaining and email M&A because I'm sick of hearing this on the community.
Walter, I don't give a damn if your character is a badass. Just cool it and stop harassing others for no reason good enough to defend yourself.
Okay, you said sorry. But it would mean so much more to all of us if you just calmed down a little.
Yeah, so someone's going to give me some threatening message back? Don't be so childish.
I sound pathetic, hm? Well I wouldn't be saying so much junk if there wasn't stuff like this happening in the first place.
Go read the TEF site, perhaps it will refresh your minds of what the place is really meant to be.
A little action doesn't bother me. It's the ones who randomly attack innocent deer and get away with it.
eh, this place is a mess. I forget why I bother sometimes.
@deathday: because even
Well said, Mick. Sorry!
Sorry! *totally ignores the actual topic and poofs*
I agree with you Deathday.
=)
And, I realize the
What if I made a charrie that ran around hump/raping everybody and only followed YOU and harassed you all day? But, his personality was to do this? Would THAT be acceptable? Would you want to be told to "live with it" if my character was chasing and hunting you down nonstop?
Being old in the community doesn't make somebody any less of a troll.
GUYS. GUYS! Isn't there a
Isn't there a great saying about life being too important to be taken seriously?
Sometimes there are moments
I am still wondering what Verdalas has to say to all of this; I am curious how this will turn out. If not only because I want to see some form of resolution to this situation, but also because I feel like I myself have come under fire.
Because I just realized how much of a bitching hypocrite I am.
I play Beliar. Perhaps you know him, perhaps you don't. For those who do, they know well of his reputation- a fawn murderer. In-game, and out. Of course, I don't rampage around and attack anyone I see, I tend to have Beliar go after sleeping/idle fawns, and if they wake up, I leave them be. Still, I feel as though by criticizing and condemning the acts of Verdalas and others, I am promoting my own inexcusable behaviour.
It isn't acceptable.
Now, I don't use my deer to snap at players OOC, but I feel that events in-game are often just as powerful as a conversation between the players.
I am in the wrong as much as the next person.
So I will stop acting like the good one here, trying to keep the peace and act as third-party. Because I am not. I just hope this can be resolved without any of us resorting to low means.
I know, but I'm still a bit
I really wish there was a
To people complaining about how the character Walter acts: Pretendy Fun Time Games. You're taking an online game too seriously. Inappropriate behavior such as "humping" deer is one thing, but outside of actions which are inappropriate for some of the age groups of people here, it's all Pretendy Fun Time Games. There is no rules list for the Forest. Feel free to be annoyed and complain, but do not turn it into extra drama here, please.
I don't like seeing this community upset, but the drama is expected to come some times. I'm just asking at this point we don't snowball one bad interaction between two players into a community-wide argument. Or, I should say, that we don't continue this argument any further. It doesn't seem Verdalas has even given this thread a second look, and continuing to argue over this is not going to solve it.