I don't mean to sound picky but, i think there should be female deer, considering most of the people who play this game are girls. I want to know what you all think, if you agree, or disagree
You can choose to make your deer female, by giving them a bio. Both of my adult deer are does, but Rain still has antlers, as do lots of the doe characters. There're also antlers that look more like stumps that you can use if you wish to give you deer a more female-like appearance, and also the peacock antlers don't have very noticeable antlers, just two small, blue 'stumps'. They might add more female choices for antlers or maybe even the option to remove them in the next version, we'll have to wait and see.
Well, take a look at the other bios on here. You're just giving your deer a personality and name -- they don't have to be too fancy, you don't need CSS, just choose 'Blog Entry', then enter a title, choose 'Biography' as your Category, and just write about your deer, give them a profile! For example:
Its quite easy. All you have to do is make a blog & put information about your deer inside it.
ex. Age,Gender,Breed,Personalities,Appearance etc.
I dont mind walking you through it if you need help with it
ok do you know what reason, because, you just barged in and defeated paperfang and i's chat, plus, do you have to disagree with everything i say, i don't like it
You'll only be attacked by all the "mature" people.
Anyways, the creators of the game didn't add does because they wanted a game where people roleplayed as a deer, not, "themselves in a deer suit". However there are many doe-like antlers, and many does here have antlers. Hell sometimes I forget we are all stags.
So they don't really have to add does into the game. We already have.
@orangejuice32:
Your going to be getting a lot of disagreeing people on here. Its mostly just because these are subjects that have already been talked about again and again and again. At some point someones going to get tired of reading the same repetitive thing and voice their opinion. Maybe you should put "only respond if you agree with me" in the title because you did ask for everyones opinion.
Personally i don't care whether they have does or not. They either have them or they don't. You can alter the deers appearance into a more feminine figure using different pelts/antlers etc. so i don't really see what the big problem is.
@ BluedeerLegend18:
Attacked is such a strong word for that statement. If you act like a 6 year old your going to get sent to the corner like a 6 year old. "You'll only be attacked by all the "mature" people."
That is completely uncalled for and you really shouldn't go around telling a member he/she will be attacked by "mature" people. This community isn't as split as you think it is. I really do feel that your trying to split the community into two sections. "Mature" and "Immature".
You really should slow down a bit and read what your typing. Half the things you say are directed to the community as a whole and your bound to get some rejection at some point in time Just try viewing what you say through our eyes and you'll understand why things happen the way they happen.
I'm not trying to be rude to either party but if you know that something is causing an uproar why continue on anyways? Just stop the problem all together. No hard feelings, I'm only voicing my opinion sense you said it was encouraged. See ya around the forest you two
Anyways, Orange, stop whiny. Everyone has their own opinion. And you asked for their opinion. You can't just go around and force people to agree with you. So stop whining because everyone disagrees. It's not like they hate you. What makes them not like you so much is your complaints.
Then you would be treated based on your actions. I never said i had a problem treating a 6 year old like i would any of my older friends. Age has nothing to do with it if you know how to keep from causing unnecessary havoc. When you act a certain way thats when people will start to distance themselves from you and treat you as if you were a stubborn toddler. I was simply giving an example and if you were in fact a 6 year old i wouldn't mind it at all. I know some 6 year olds can be stubborn at times and its completely normal.
Again Blue, I'm not trying to make you feel like your being attacked. I just wanted to voice my opinion before this gets out of hand (not like i can stop it if it does but still rofl).
It always seemed as if the people on this site want me to be mature.
I'm just 11 years old. And apparently I had to be mature. I tried. Apparently I failed.
I'm sorry, I tried to be mature, but I don't know how to be an adult. I'm a child, and I want to be a child. I don't care if no one likes me because of my age.
I judge on mental maturity, not years lived. I have met those far younger than I who were just as mature.
If you wish to be treated differently, act differently.
People don't expect you to be mature, but they expect you to not complain when you are not treated the same way someone who does act mature is treated.
You do not treat a child as an adult simply because they want to be. You treat them as an adult when they earn the right to be treated as such.
We don't mind if you act your age, simply know that you will be treated your age if you choose to behave so, and do not become angered when people do so.
I hope you guys don't mind that I'm not going to respond to the argument directly above my comment. I wouldn't be helpful, anyways C;
aaaaaaaand I'm aware that this topic is a common topic. like Zubats in Mount Moon!
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Let me start off by saying this: "gender" is how somebody acts, whether they act ambiguous, feminine, masculine, etc. "Sex" is determined by your chromosomes--male, female, hermaphrodite.
I really wish that there were no sexes in the Forest, because as soon as you bring that in there's romantic tiffs and whatnot.. "so and so got close to my deer's mate so they beat them up," and ehh.. I can't come up with good examples because I generally ignore that stuff.
Apparently some players really enjoy that, but I honestly do not.
As the creators have mentioned, they didn't exactly intend the game to have does. So right there, the default is male (or at least "male" in the sense that stags have antlers and you start out as a deer with antlers).
...but I kind of have this huge issue with male being the default sex! Mickey Mouse came first, then Minnie, and according to the Bible, Adam was created first, then Eve. Really the truth is that all human babies start off female and (if I remember right! don't quote me oh my god my biological psych class was like 5 months ago) will only be discerned as being a male when exposed to certain hormones. So female is really the default, but nobody really acknowledges that. Except for l33t hipsters. Like me. /sarcasm
From that I think that if the default is male, then there SHOULD be an option to be female because otherwise that's not really fair! :C
I think there ought to be feminine (gender) deer, but I don't really like female (sex) deer even though I have 2 characters that I consider to be biologically female. So many societies are all about defining things, so it's pretty much inevitable that we'd have does in a game because we want to say "this is female and this is male."
tl;dr LOL I DUNNO it's late gaiz
and I'm not trying to say that I hate every single character that has a sex :/ I'm just a weirdo who is at a point in her life where she's trying to not ascribe gender and sex to things*.
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*because doing so usually incurs the wrath of terrible gender roles.
Now excuse me while I turn the bits and pieces of this dead, beaten horse into jerky.
Really, and Bluedeer, age doesn't matter. I am 12 and I feel home within all the other people here. Why is there a need to cause problems and make the 'problem' bigger than it really is? I don't need to necessarily be a mature, I just equalize myself with the others. I have no problems here, at all.
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Call me Deery. Dragon Scroll.
Avvie by me, siggy by Saosin
I never wanted The Endless Forest to be an argument about maturity. I wanted to have fun. I acted whatever way I wanted, I did whatever I want, and nobody had a problem with it. I had fun. And now, for some reason, some people decided that now was the time to attack me in every post I write and then say, "You just want attention, you're asking for pity. This post is all about how your life sucks and how you want to die. You're not being very mature.". Okay. I got very confused when you all said that. but the explanation can all go to another post.
What did I ever do? Maybe I do want pity. Maybe I even want attention. But guys, it is very normal to ask for attention. Little kids ask for attention all the time. 11 year olds like me ask for it too- maybe not from their friends or teachers, mostly their parents. Adults do it to. And, sometimes we feel sorry for someone. That's pity. Pity is when you feel sorry for someone. And it's perfectly normal to feel sorry for that person, especially if they're dying or someone very close to them has died. So I don't see what's so immature about asking for attention. I guess it's because asking for attention doesn't work on the Internet like it does in real life. Again another explanation can go on another post.
I warned FireDragon about this. She didn't care, but at least she won't make the same mistake that I did.
Why is the deer a stag and not a doe? Several reasons. One is that we like the look of antlers. And female deer don't have those. Another and more important reason is motivated by our insistence on our position as authors. We choose a male character because it fits the story that we want to tell (Nobody questions the author of a novel about the gender of their protagonist!...). Also, we feel that if we were to give you the choice of playing a stag or a doe, your experience would become about your gender. The Endless Forest is not about being male or female, but about (role)playing a deer. You are a male deer, not a human in a deer skin.
But don't worry: later on there will be many opportunities to make your avatar appear more feminine if you like. He may be male but he doesn't have to be a macho (if it is even possible for an animal to be a macho...).
They did add several antlers that are more feminine to choose from, such as the peacock antlers and the butterfly antlers. But you can have an antlered doe too.
Really please can we stop all of this. I'm extremely sorry to hear that you feel that way blue. No matter how someone acts no one should ever have to feel that way about themselves. To those of you that are saying she only wants attention maybe she does. Maybe she has no one else to give it to her so she came here trying to seek acceptance through being given attention. I don't care how blue acts, theres absolutely no reason to make her feel worse than she already does.
I already see history repeating itself on this sit and i honestly wish this blog would be scrapped all together before something terrible happens again.
Once again blue, I'm sorry you feel that way. I know i don't know you much but any of my blogs are open to you. If you ever need help or guidance feel free to drop by any of them so we can talk. Hell ill even sulk with you if you need it (:
@unplugged YES! Goodness, off topic and spiraling fast toward agressive. I'm amazed by how some members explode over pretty inoffensive topics.
I actually find nice that you're so actively curious about the game Orange.
BDL...you're certainly talented to pose yourself as a victim. How is it that you turn everything personal? Please chill down, your age can't excuse everything either. I'm 14 years older than you and still get whacked on the head when being an ass.
I think if you all stepped back, orangejuice32's blog and further polite comments were innocent and didn't call for a lot of these replies. There's no need to be aggressive or sarcastic when someone new offers up these queries; people don't instantly get how the game has manifested through the presence of this community site, and CSS isn't a "Doi, that's what it is! How easy!" affair, either.
What should have been said was that the games physical features aren't up for debate; the deer in forest are genderless avatars. You are fee to make a male of a female character, and choose an appearance in forest that appears masculine or feminine to you. You can also clarify your character's gender through making a biography if you want, and you see examples of this by clicking on "biographies" in the blog category menu on the left.
Either way, it is up to you to interpret the game. Some people would like to make a character and be shown as female or male, and others do not (:
You can choose to make your
Yeah, but i got no idea how
oh yeah, i wonder when the
Well, take a look at the
Name: ____
Gender: Doe/stag
Age: _____
You get the idea. :3
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Its quite easy. All you have
ex. Age,Gender,Breed,Personalities,Appearance etc.
I dont mind walking you through it if you need help with it
edt:
Grr ninja'd xD *shakes fist*
oh, i wanted to ask what CSS
because i want to use it
We will google that for
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+css
thanks, paperfang
- bows -
The creators of the game left
Disagree.
do you know how to get it?,
ok do you know what reason,
LOL Oh dear. You said that
Oh dear. You said that you wanted everyone's opinion and you got it.
Don't be stupid.
Anyway, yeah. The creators didn't want does, so there aren't does.
i don't want this to turn
im getting bad vibes
Stop begging for attention.
You'll only be attacked by all the "mature" people.
Anyways, the creators of the game didn't add does because they wanted a game where people roleplayed as a deer, not, "themselves in a deer suit". However there are many doe-like antlers, and many does here have antlers. Hell sometimes I forget we are all stags.
So they don't really have to add does into the game. We already have.
Yes actually I do. They said
And it's a public thread, if you wanted to have a private conversation you could go speak over messenger.
When you have an opinion I agree with I'll agree with it. I'm not here to give asspats.
^ I'm rolling I'm watching
I'm watching the lotr rifftrax right now
oh lawd I haven't watched it
I should rewatch it now B3
@orangejuice32: Your going
Your going to be getting a lot of disagreeing people on here. Its mostly just because these are subjects that have already been talked about again and again and again. At some point someones going to get tired of reading the same repetitive thing and voice their opinion. Maybe you should put "only respond if you agree with me" in the title because you did ask for everyones opinion.
Personally i don't care whether they have does or not. They either have them or they don't. You can alter the deers appearance into a more feminine figure using different pelts/antlers etc. so i don't really see what the big problem is.
@ BluedeerLegend18:
Attacked is such a strong word for that statement. If you act like a 6 year old your going to get sent to the corner like a 6 year old.
"You'll only be attacked by all the "mature" people."
That is completely uncalled for and you really shouldn't go around telling a member he/she will be attacked by "mature" people. This community isn't as split as you think it is. I really do feel that your trying to split the community into two sections. "Mature" and "Immature".
You really should slow down a bit and read what your typing. Half the things you say are directed to the community as a whole and your bound to get some rejection at some point in time Just try viewing what you say through our eyes and you'll understand why things happen the way they happen.
I'm not trying to be rude to either party but if you know that something is causing an uproar why continue on anyways? Just stop the problem all together. No hard feelings, I'm only voicing my opinion sense you said it was encouraged. See ya around the forest you two
What if I want to be a 6 year
Anyways, Orange, stop whiny. Everyone has their own opinion. And you asked for their opinion. You can't just go around and force people to agree with you. So stop whining because everyone disagrees. It's not like they hate you. What makes them not like you so much is your complaints.
Then you would be treated
Again Blue, I'm not trying to make you feel like your being attacked. I just wanted to voice my opinion before this gets out of hand (not like i can stop it if it does but still rofl).
Quote:What if I want to be a
Then keep doin' what you're doin'.
It always seemed as if the
I'm just 11 years old. And apparently I had to be mature. I tried. Apparently I failed.
I'm sorry, I tried to be mature, but I don't know how to be an adult. I'm a child, and I want to be a child. I don't care if no one likes me because of my age.
I judge on mental maturity,
If you wish to be treated differently, act differently.
People don't expect you to be mature, but they expect you to not complain when you are not treated the same way someone who does act mature is treated.
You do not treat a child as an adult simply because they want to be. You treat them as an adult when they earn the right to be treated as such.
We don't mind if you act your age, simply know that you will be treated your age if you choose to behave so, and do not become angered when people do so.
Sad repetition. Mr.
Sad repetition.
Mr. Sanguine, you are wise.
I hope you guys don't mind
aaaaaaaand I'm aware that this topic is a common topic. like Zubats in Mount Moon!
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Let me start off by saying this: "gender" is how somebody acts, whether they act ambiguous, feminine, masculine, etc. "Sex" is determined by your chromosomes--male, female, hermaphrodite.
I really wish that there were no sexes in the Forest, because as soon as you bring that in there's romantic tiffs and whatnot.. "so and so got close to my deer's mate so they beat them up," and ehh.. I can't come up with good examples because I generally ignore that stuff.
Apparently some players really enjoy that, but I honestly do not.
As the creators have mentioned, they didn't exactly intend the game to have does. So right there, the default is male (or at least "male" in the sense that stags have antlers and you start out as a deer with antlers).
...but I kind of have this huge issue with male being the default sex! Mickey Mouse came first, then Minnie, and according to the Bible, Adam was created first, then Eve. Really the truth is that all human babies start off female and (if I remember right! don't quote me oh my god my biological psych class was like 5 months ago) will only be discerned as being a male when exposed to certain hormones. So female is really the default, but nobody really acknowledges that. Except for l33t hipsters. Like me. /sarcasm
From that I think that if the default is male, then there SHOULD be an option to be female because otherwise that's not really fair! :C
I think there ought to be feminine (gender) deer, but I don't really like female (sex) deer even though I have 2 characters that I consider to be biologically female. So many societies are all about defining things, so it's pretty much inevitable that we'd have does in a game because we want to say "this is female and this is male."
tl;dr LOL I DUNNO it's late gaiz
and I'm not trying to say that I hate every single character that has a sex :/ I'm just a weirdo who is at a point in her life where she's trying to not ascribe gender and sex to things*.
[edit]
*because doing so usually incurs the wrath of terrible gender roles.
Now excuse me while I turn the bits and pieces of this dead, beaten horse into jerky.
Fish: Why can't more people
Why can't more people think like you?
Ryff:
Haha, I'm honored that you think so~
Gawsh~ Thank you, Mr.
*Thumbs up to
Really, and Bluedeer, age doesn't matter. I am 12 and I feel home within all the other people here. Why is there a need to cause problems and make the 'problem' bigger than it really is? I don't need to necessarily be a mature, I just equalize myself with the others. I have no problems here, at all.
Dragon Scroll.
Avvie by me, siggy by Saosin
'like Zubats in Mount Moon'
I never wanted The Endless
What did I ever do? Maybe I do want pity. Maybe I even want attention. But guys, it is very normal to ask for attention. Little kids ask for attention all the time. 11 year olds like me ask for it too- maybe not from their friends or teachers, mostly their parents. Adults do it to. And, sometimes we feel sorry for someone. That's pity. Pity is when you feel sorry for someone. And it's perfectly normal to feel sorry for that person, especially if they're dying or someone very close to them has died. So I don't see what's so immature about asking for attention. I guess it's because asking for attention doesn't work on the Internet like it does in real life. Again another explanation can go on another post.
I warned FireDragon about this. She didn't care, but at least she won't make the same mistake that I did.
Now The Endless Forest isn't so fun anymore.
From Michael and Auriea on
Why is the deer a stag and not a doe?
Several reasons. One is that we like the look of antlers. And female deer don't have those. Another and more important reason is motivated by our insistence on our position as authors. We choose a male character because it fits the story that we want to tell (Nobody questions the author of a novel about the gender of their protagonist!...). Also, we feel that if we were to give you the choice of playing a stag or a doe, your experience would become about your gender. The Endless Forest is not about being male or female, but about (role)playing a deer. You are a male deer, not a human in a deer skin.
But don't worry: later on there will be many opportunities to make your avatar appear more feminine if you like. He may be male but he doesn't have to be a macho (if it is even possible for an animal to be a macho...).
They did add several antlers that are more feminine to choose from, such as the peacock antlers and the butterfly antlers. But you can have an antlered doe too.
bluedeerlegend18, don't make
about the doe-question, I wouldn't mind having both genders. But because there are only stags at the moment, I prefer to keep my characters as male.
Are you saying that I'm
Because I am not.
And Orange, you'll forget about the whole doe-thing in a while. I forget a lot that we are all stags.
rofl i don't even know you
Blue, please use this topic
I think mini has a point
[e]: yep, quad has made a good suggestion there.
Really please can we stop all
I already see history repeating itself on this sit and i honestly wish this blog would be scrapped all together before something terrible happens again.
Once again blue, I'm sorry you feel that way. I know i don't know you much but any of my blogs are open to you. If you ever need help or guidance feel free to drop by any of them so we can talk. Hell ill even sulk with you if you need it (:
@unplugged YES! Goodness, off
I actually find nice that you're so actively curious about the game Orange.
BDL...you're certainly talented to pose yourself as a victim. How is it that you turn everything personal? Please chill down, your age can't excuse everything either. I'm 14 years older than you and still get whacked on the head when being an ass.
I think if you all stepped
What should have been said was that the games physical features aren't up for debate; the deer in forest are genderless avatars. You are fee to make a male of a female character, and choose an appearance in forest that appears masculine or feminine to you. You can also clarify your character's gender through making a biography if you want, and you see examples of this by clicking on "biographies" in the blog category menu on the left.
Either way, it is up to you to interpret the game. Some people would like to make a character and be shown as female or male, and others do not (: