It took time to find the correct words, but The Corner is just about players having fun, being random, and staying light-hearted.
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Notify me poeplz, so I can add your newest music addictions.
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oooorrrr
Page 12 is looking handsome.
Stop spamming page 12! >:
Ähm, to be honest I've the bad feeling that I should say goodbye to the computer for some time. I'd like to join my dog now and try a bit old-fashioned drawing
And remove my name from your signature! x-D I don't wanna everyone to read my name : -DDD
(thank you nevertheless! x-) )
*sticks
NFFFF..!
Drawing too!
Removing name!
Spamming!
@ Kamino This is for you.
This is for you.
Hey! Put my name in there
Of course not seriously ; -D But I feel flattered I'ts "freaky" x-D
You seized the expression I
I'm glad you think that =) Ya
Ok, see you, I should sleep now /:-)
I wish you all a very good
Good night Fly!!!! Argh
Argh I just woke up, can't sleep again.
Thank you flyleaf! I did
Oh no! How is it possible to wake up at 4 o'clock and not be able to sleep? It's absolutely incredible to me O_o
I hope you drank your sedative tea from uncle flyleaf.
Has anybody here an idea of this Pirates of the Caribbean-enthusiasm which is going on here? Particularly because I didn't like the 4. part that much ;-P
Ok, next try. I tried to use that eye-experiment, I tried to make him more smile. But you won't see it from far
Dunno, but I've the feeling that this simple eye is working better from distance now...
I know you said it was ok, Nayu, but there the changes (except for the eye) were, as I said, already done^^ I hope that I don't keep you to from critique ': -D
Ok, I'm going to draw now (yes, I'm worried about my wrist x-D), can't find a good design for Federweber (she's always looking like an old buck O_o).
Ignore all this moaning! I'm actually de bonne humeur ^^
Thank ya Kami, I guess I'll
Now is my turn to attack Feder's design.
Well, dear deers, I won't be able to connect too much for a few days, so behave!
(Herbal tea helps indeed, I've been sick for a few days now, it wakes me at night, that's why! )
I hope you're all doing great!
Everything fine, and have no
Hope you'll get better soon, little Nayu *nuzzle nuzzle*
[*returns to lurking mode*]
It's been a while Okino, glad
Seems like you needed a bit of time for yourself, thought I hope to see more of you, here, and in-game.
*Nuzzles*
Thanks for this cute little post!
@ Kamino I found some nice
I found some nice stuffs for you, but will post them tomorrow because it's getting a bit late.
Gudnight people.
Feeling a little bit better
Sweet dreams and get better soon
(Agh, ain't feeling better at
Sweet dreams to you too Fly! I hope you're well.
Thank ya!
*nuzzles*
Sweet dreams !! i am well ,
But i am worried
Teenage Weird Looking
Teenage Weird Looking Humanized Nayu done on MS PAINT with my laptop's finger pad from hell! ROFLmao! Well, at least it was fun.
Don't laugh too much at the poor guy, he might bite your eyes off!
Never do that...seriously, your fingers will just fall apart, MS PAINT is pure madness.
@Fly, a few pancakes and everything should be in order.
OtherkinOS: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not you, Nayu! Why turns everyone into a pirate? D->
I think I met you some days ago in the forest. We had some silly fun
Nayu:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not you, Nayu! Why draw all people manga? Why do you all obey fashion!? :_-(
(although that's not really a surprise, I'm decue! >: -O)
But I'm very surprised that you got that without graphics tablet and with paint (x-D) (I guess you know that, but probably with your graphics tablet there will be some drawing programs delivered).
Get well soon and what a pity that you won't be in the forest in the next time
(I found out how to become a fat frog! I wanna Nayu to be a monster bunny : -DDD)
What ?? Done with paint on
This looks great !! I love the blue eyes !!!!!!and the little cross hanging down from his ear
lolz! @, you whiny old hag!
@, you whiny old hag! ( though I have a BD kind of style anyway)
I want to be a bunny killer!
Starting to slowly feel better, I hope it will last.
@Fly, rofl, boredome and illness make you do strange things.
Will you guys be connected sometime today?
edit: a bit of a "indiscrète" question, mais Kami, t'as payé combien ta tablette graphique?
x-D I like cartoon-style! I
But I'm curios about your style ^^
I'm kinda relaxed today (???!??!), so yes, I've got time, I've got the fast PC, I'll be around there in the forest.
The tablet was a present of my (a bit prosperous^^) grandpa, so I don't know exactly, but surely around 200€. It's a Bamboo Fun Pen&Touch Medium, which at amazon costs 160€ at the moment.
I'll join you soon then, just
I'm not sure what you call manga style, "this? okay, "but this for example?. How would you call it?
You're missing out a lot by hating mangas and animes though, there are some pearls out there.
Ugh, 160 euros is expensive...
What to do...
On with some
Ravens:
General symbolism:
Beyond the negative symbolism, ravens are associated with chosen reclusion and the desire to reach a superior conscience ( on a psychological level) .
Suetonus, a roman historian, defined the raven cries, as “cras”, which means “tomorrow” in latin, granting it a hopeful connotation (in opposition to The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe, where the animal cries “nevermore”.)
It has often been described as a psychopomp , that is to say, a creature that guides the departed in the afterlife.
Alchimist associated the raven to putrefaction of materials .
And althought you seemed more interrested in occidental symbolisms, there are some really interesting stuffs to dig in orient/north American mythologies and cosmogonies:
North American Indians legend, (Wikipedia):
“A raven story from the Puget Sound region describes the "Raven" as having originally lived in the land of spirits (literally bird land) that existed before the world of humans. One day the Raven became so bored with bird land that he flew away, carrying a stone in his beak. When the Raven became tired of carrying the stone and dropped it, the stone fell into the ocean and expanded until it formed the firmament on which humans now live.
In the creator role, and in the Raven's role as the totem and ancestor of one of the four northwest clan houses, the Raven is often addressed as Grandfather Raven. It is not clear whether this form of address is intended to refer to a creator Raven who is different from the trickster Raven, or if it is just a vain attempt to encourage the trickster spirit to act respectably.”
There is also a tale about how a raven stole the sun and brought the light to humans. Try to search for it in german if you’re interrested.
In China, it’s a solar bird. 10 ravens have brought light to the world, but 9 were killed by Yi fearing the light may consume everything. One was left and has been represented with 3 legs, its body caged in the sun.
German mythology:
I guess this is the most famous part.
There were two ravens perched on Odin's trone, nammed respectively Huginn (meaning "thought" in old Norse) and Muninn ("memory"). Both represented the principle of creation opposed to the two wolves accompaning the god, representating the principle of destruction. The two ravens were send to roam over Migdar ( world of the humans) and came back during the night to whisper what they saw and heard to Odin.
Celtic mythology:
German wiki !
Morrigan is a « godess » associated with ravens :
« Morrígan ['moRi??in?], auch Morrígain, Morrígu, Morríghan, Mor-Ríoghain, selten Mórrígan (keltisch: „Große Königin“), ist eine Figur der irischen Mythologie »
« Der Name lässt sich aus dem protokeltischen marwo für ‚tot‘ und altirisch rígain ‚Königin‘ erklären. Diese Deutung war im Mittelalter mit der Gleichsetzung mit Morgane als Abholerin des Leichnams von König Arthur auf die Apfelinsel Avalon vorherrschend. Für die Antike und das Frühmittelalter kommt aber auch die Deutung der ersten Silbe als mór für ‚groß‘ in Frage.[1]”
Badb:
“Badb [baðv] („Kampfeswut“), auch Bodb [boðv] (nicht zu verwechseln mit dem männlichen Gott Bodb Derg), Bodhb Chatha („Kampf-Bodhb“, „Schlachtkrähe“ [?]) oder Fea genannt, ist eine Gestalt der mittelalterlichen irischen Sagenwelt.
Im Lebor Gabala Eirenn wird sie als Mitglied der Tuatha de Danann, und zwar als Tochter des Aed Abrat und der Ernmas, sowie Enkelin Bresals genannt, stammt also sowohl aus der Familie Nuadas als auch des Dagda. Sie gilt als Schwester der Macha oder Nemain und der Morrigan oder Anand/Anu. Wie ihre beiden Schwestern erscheint auch Badb als dreifache Göttin oder in dreifacher Gestalt („Triade der Kriegsgöttinnen“).
Wahrscheinlich geht mittelirisch Bodb Chatha auf eine alte, in der Gallia narbonensis (Département Haute-Savoie) verehrte keltische Gottheit namens (C)athubodva Augusta zurück[1].”
Bran The Blessed:
“Brân Fendigeid [bra?n ven'digeid], auch Bendigeidfran oder Bendigeitvran, („Gesegnete Krähe“, „Segensrabe“, von irisch/lateinisch benedicatios) ist ein Riese aus mittelalterlichen, walisischen Sagen. Gemäß den Erzählungen des Mabinogion ist er der Sohn Ll?rs, des walisischen Meeresgottes, und seiner Gemahlin Penarddun. Obwohl er von Göttern abzustammen scheint, wirkt er, abgesehen von seiner Größe, eher menschlich. Seine Geschwister sind Manawydan und Branwen. Er hat noch zwei Halbbrüder, Nissyen und Efnisien, deren Vater Eurosswydd ist.
Er tritt in mehreren Teilen der walisischen Triaden, aber vor allem im zweiten Zweig des Mabinogion, Branwen, Tochter des Llyr, als König von Wales oder Britannien auf. In dieser Erzählung rettet er seine Schwester Branwen in Irland.
Aus dem Walisischen übersetzt, bedeutet Bran “Krähe”. Oft wird er in den Erzählungen jedoch auch “Rabe” genannt. Beide Vögel gehören zur Gattung ‚’Corvus’’ in der Familie der Rabenvögel.”
Lug is sometime associated with ravens too, but I haven’t found anything yet.
Yay! Reading at the moment! :
Dunno. I know that some mangas look almost look like... er... other comics, I mean why should japanese only draw that ugly way. But to be honest, why is it manga then? Why is there a difference between japanese and other comics? (I guess japanese are a bit crazier. Nice prejudice ) I personally can say that it's not only the style, also the content which I don't like (although I admit that I've no experience ).
For the examples: First is, like you certainly assumed^^) . Second: If there where many mangas like this, it would be ok to me. But there are those special things about this style I simply don't like. But of course the worst about those girls and their mangas are that they are soooo antifeminist. And that people make these exaggerated, ugly expressions^^.
Sorry for prattling, but I never may say that I hate hate HATE it because everyone is a fan of cute (or brutal ) mangas... I hope it's better now after I one time had a good moan ^^
I guess that there are cheaper possibilities. I saw tablets for 50€, but of course I've no idea about the quality. A problem could be that the tablet shouldn't be too small to draw, and the size is the most expensive part ^^'
ebay could be another risky way...
edit: hey, thank you! (me: wtf, german??!? x-D). God, seems that you can make much enquiries there O_o I haven't any idea of irish-celtic mythology, so thank you again! : -D
I can say that most of the symbolism matches perfectly the crow's goddess, but Feder is more the windy side^^, so I guess only raven could not be her main bird (x-))
I guess I'll steal some of this for volucrian mythology x-D
God, I love languages and cultures <-)
Wocio and flyleaf are at the forest now, it's funny! Ups, I think fly has left...
Guess I wasn't of great help!
I really want to bite your head off for being so prejudicied! You should open up yourself a bit Kamino!
Whether in manga, comics, animes and cartoons, the variety is far from lacking.
The "big eye" style is maybe the most popular, but manga means " caricatural/whimsical style" and Disney, a few years back, was just as much over-abusing this chara-design. Mangas, in essence, are a great heritage of japan cultural art= work on empty spaces, flowing lines and purged content ( really brievly and messily summarized).
The second pic in my earlier post was from Massive Swerve, an artbook and short film made by Robert Valley, a great artist mostly known for his work on Gorillaz's clips.
You can't categorize with this black and white kind of perspective. Or I might just spank you till you cry red.
Look at how differents is all these:
Manga only or this post will know no end.
Omega
Me and the Devil Blues
Spice and Wolf
Omoide Emanon
Nijigahara Holograph
Ok I can't resist, some BD/comics artists:
Sergio Toppi
Juanjo Guarnido
Barbucci and Canepa
Run
Damn, just, f... my poor english, I can't barely say what I want!!
... I like manga and anime !
I like manga and anime !
There are so many manga
I enjoy watching movies of Hayao Miyazaki like princess Mononoke and so on !!
And i like Albator and Goldorak on tv !! They have other names in english !
Albator is captain Harlock ( I think ) .
Watch ponyo already dimmit!
Yes . Don't frighten meeeee
YES YES Miyazakiii Mononokeee
Miyazakiii
Mononokeee :F
I loved that movie
(I think that's one of the reasons why Fangorn uses that mask )
And ...PONYO !! I want to watch itttttt
XD
Sorry, but what do you think
But if I see it's manga style, I don't like it. Probably also because everyone else likes it.
If I can't see the manga style, which means to me terrible proportions, exaggerated expressions, tiny noses (I HATE tiny noses >:-/), too long legs, strange hair and so on, it's ok. It's like every other comic then, I mean it was created from american comics. But I won't be interested in a cartoon just because it's manga. And japanese culture might be interesting, but there are sooooo many other cultures which aren't that exploited
Our graduation motto was japanese! >.° And this smiley is also japanese! Aaaaaah!
My problem with manga is that I think the important ting about comic is to find your own style. But everyone is copying those goggle eyes! And Disney invented that style, which was taken by the japanese. He invented it. So I've nothing against it.
Everyone likes manga and japan. I don't. I'm reading a manga of my friend at the moment, so I don't refuse it categorically. But I don't like it.
(Yeah, that's one reason why I do sword fighting. Wanna do any martial arts? It's oly ASIAN here! ONLY! Nothing against asia. But no one can believe that medieval sword fighting still exists and that it not has to be ashamed in view of great katanas. Medieval Fechten is high art, at least as effective as the asian one. Ok. Have to stop myself. Going off topic... -_-)
I like Asian stuff
@Wocio Yea , you stole the
Yea , you stole the mask in the film lool!!
@Kamino
I understand you .
YES I KNOW! EVERYONE LIKES
I'll go crazy!
Flyleaf: x-D
But you like it, don't you? O_o thanks nevertheless^^
What I really wanted to say
“Many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.”
There's a great guy name James William who said this.
I won't debate about japan culture, who inspired who (though I disagree with you), this is more what is behing the thinking that bothers me.
Prejudices are closed doors.
And craziness is the best
After cats.
.... and snakes
and snakes
Tension broken. Though, I
Though, I hope my point was made.
I'm a pighead, beat me!
*sticks tongue out and runs away*
Yep. But I hope you know,
(And btw, the most important thing I learned in my life is that prejudices are true -_- It's really frustrating to understand that, but it is like this. CDU is evil. Humans are evil. Women only want money. Men only want pretty women. Dogs like to be tickled at their ears. Chinese pupils have a terrible life. And you shouldn't take prejudices too seriously )
And yes. I like craziness. But the japanese one is not my style.
Yes, let's not again talk about this topic.
I'm young and I have my own philosophy which no one seems to understand O_o
Hummmmmmm humm * holds mouth
ARGHHHH!!!
... I'm not criticizing prejudices in itself, categorizing is normal as you said. But they are pre- jugement, reducing and stereotyping beliefs made out of minimum gathered informations. Assumptions. Inconsistent by definition. Labeling. Aka "how to make the world easier for me to understand it". This is the first step to forming an opinion, and it's absolutely okay and logical behaviour...as long as you make the following steps necessary to get past the "pre" in "prejudice".
I guess we can't agree on this, and it's no drama.
I'm not trying to get on your nerves, but hope somehow my words will stick, or that you will tuck them away in your back pocket for later thinking.
I luv ya, just so you know, I'm not angry or saying this to annoy you.
Topic closed, unless you want to add something.
I'm sorry if I sounded a bit harsh...
And I was eating between the two replies, sorreyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
x-D You may eat! Yes. We
Yes. We won't aggree on this, I'm sure. There are these topics where both parties think they're right and can't understand what the other one doesn't understand^^ And it seems the best to avoid these topics.
(But the problem is: The more people try to convert me, the more I get donkey : -D)
All my friends like manga, so I guess I'll cope with it (But there will very likely be some nasty comments).
Now I'll try to find out who that guy is who's lying next to me O_o
edit: maybe you niticed: My nuzzle doesn't work! x-DDD
PFFFFFFFFFFiouuu. I'll be
I'll be honest, "debating" in another language is tiring.
ROFL
Seems like we are both very stubborn, it cracks me up a bit. ( inalikemotherlikesonkindofway.)
Have you stayed with these deers all evening?
Now, some fun is in order!
Yes, I stayed with them some
A moment, I'm making my first "Who's that?"-Thread x-D
Go on! How did you manage to
How did you manage to get changed into such a huge frog?? XD
x-D Found Instructions. It's
1. save shapeshift spell
2. worship at the twin god's
3. load your appearance while worshiping
4. wait until the devout pelt has left - you'll become a fat frog O_o C-:
Lulz! I will definitely try!