Antlerless players.. please come here?

dayne's picture
This is NOT A BLOG to whine and or attack them. So pleaaase don't.

I have a question...

Would one of you be able to give me a few tips and hints about how to figure it out? Over e-mail, messengers, or on here or something? I'm not sure.. I've really been trying hard to figure it out, but my brain isn't comprehending what I'm supposed to do if I notice a pattern.

So please.. can I get a tiny bit of help? I can always do something in return.. draw something, commission someone, something..?

Hehe. I probably sound stupid, but I'm really wanting a little help on figuring this out. xD

Anyway, thanks for reading. <3
Reyy's picture

I will happily help you as

I will happily help you as soon as I get home. The only thing I won't do is flat out give you the answer and I'm going to be honest with you, it's hard. my AIM is heyyravyn.
Reyy's picture

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I've been wanting a few

I've been wanting a few clues too Dx
I've heard someone saying about looking for a pattern or something but.. Egh. Dx
I know it's something to do with editing the antler files though, I think? D|
dayne's picture

Oh thank you thank you thank

Oh thank you thank you thank you so much Ravynn. <333 I wasn't expecting the flat out answer! haha. Eye I knew it wouldn't be that easy.

Thank you so muchhhh. <33 My AIM is shablekat

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Reyy's picture

1. You need to google

1. You need to google something to edit hexes and download it. This is merely something to help you organize and recognize patterns.
dayne's picture

Oh yes! I downloaded one of

Oh yes! I downloaded one of those a few days ago. Hehe.
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Lyeekha's picture

If people who know are going

If people who know are going to give flat-out answers to just some people, can it please be made public? Just a quick ask, really... both the extremes counter inequality, after all.
Reyy's picture

Good now start picking out

Good now start picking out patterns in a specific file you don't see in the other ones.
Reyy's picture

Good now start picking out

Good now start picking out patterns in a specific file you don't see in the other ones.
Custard's picture

8O *downloads hex thingy ma

8O *downloads hex thingy ma bob* xDD
Reyy's picture

Sorry I'm on the iPod Touch

Sorry I'm on the iPod Touch and I keep double posting Sticking out tongue
Custard's picture

Eep. I'm downloading one now

Eep. I'm downloading one now but I don't even get how to use it xDD
I'll figure it out when it's installed.
But I probably won't figure out the antler thing.
Oh well it's worth a try |3
dayne's picture

Haha it's fine! So we're

Haha it's fine!

So we're looking through Spelldata, correct? Cool I didn't think it'd be antlers, because you'd only be modifying your antler files. Spelldata is what everyone sees.

I have two spelldata files open, Both with the same pelt/mask, but different antlers. Would that be a good way to do it? o:

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Custard's picture

Gahh *gives up already* I

Gahh *gives up already*
I loaded it up and it looks like a load of foreign launguaded stuff xDD
In other words, it's too confusing for me D8
I don't even get what to start of with doing |DD
Whatver. xD
Custard's picture

Wait. I don't even know if

Wait. I don't even know if I'm looking at te right thing but I see a pattern 8O
What do i do if I see a pttern? xD
dayne's picture

Oh! I used this file

Oh! I used this file comparison thing and I found 3 differences within the two spelldata files.

Was i looking for differences, or..? Haha, sorry, I'm really bad on this stuff. xD

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Reyy's picture

Well, you spot a pattern, do

Well, you spot a pattern, do what you think it is you need to do. (: Get a feel for the editor because you need to learn how to edit things on your own. (:
Custard's picture

;_; I hate stuff that

;_; I hate stuff that confuses me AGHHHHHHHHHH.
<8c lol

Ehh edit it? xD
Does it have to be the whole file or is it a certain part...
and is it more then one file? 8o
I've only found a pattern... wait make that two in the same file but in very small area's >.<
It probably wouldn't make a difference.. or would it? >.>
Reyy's picture

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Reyy's picture

well you look in the section

well you look in the section you're editing so, Antlers. (:
Custard's picture

I'm in an antler file C8 Do

I'm in an antler file C8
Do I need to be able to select multiple files?
Becuase it says I need to upgrade if I need to do that...

and I see a couple of patterns but don't understand what to do with them xDD I'll have to figure that out 8o
dayne's picture

Are you using Hex Editor

Are you using Hex Editor Neo? xD Thats what I'm doing.

I had to upgrade too, but I chose the 14 day free trial.

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Custard's picture

Yep I am 8D Okay, I'll

Yep I am 8D
Okay, I'll upgrade with 14 day trial too x3
I hope I don't do something wrong and have to reinstall TEF or something |D
Lyeekha's picture

O.O Goodness gracious, it

O.O Goodness gracious, it was only a simple question! There's no need to start with the course language; there's no hard feelings on my side, but apparently there are on yours. Alas, such things are hard to convey through simple text. Anyways, I would say all the same things to Ephra, and anyone else with the same ideals, in what I had hoped could be a civil discussion. So please, please don't think that I'm 'picking' on you, or being over-aggressive. Seeing as you are kindly carrying out what people are asking for anyway, then that's all fine, isn't it? I have nothing to complain about, so your reactions puzzle me. Still, at least now I remember why I took my leave from the community site in the first place. Thankyou for reminding me.
Reyy's picture

Oh excuse me. You're

Oh excuse me. You're right.(; But you're the only one who seems to be harassing me, sorry. Leave me alone, I'm not doing anything bad or causing inequality.
Verycrazygirl's picture

Tracking. Hexes. Edit? Create

Tracking.
Hexes.
Edit?
Create?
Delete?
It's like, woah. OwO

I've been working on this

I've been working on this too, I have a pretty good idea of what I need to do in order to have no antlers. Just experiment. Smiling
Ephra's picture

I'm here too. Ask me stuff

I'm here too. Ask me stuff and if you're doin' alright I'll help you along. By the way, if you can figure out the process of doing this, you will be able to do other crazy things besides removing antlers! If you're patient enough to go through with that stuff too. xD

You're doing good if you're using the process of elimination. It's a lot easier figuring out what doesn't work.

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Assistance needed please-- I

Assistance needed please--

I don't think I'm doing it right. The file to modify is the Spelldata file right? I've noticed several patterns under the Antler sections in that file but no matter what I do, I always end up as a naked deer when I load the forest to check. I've tried deleting and changing (to a degree as I have no idea what hex code to use) and I always end up nude.

Or should I be looking at a different file all together?
Ephra's picture

Hexadecimal numbers are not

Hexadecimal numbers are not as hard as you think, it's either numbers or letters that are being used as placeholders for numbers. It is good you are noticing recurring patterns, now you'll probably need to figure out which actually change things and which are not essential. You know how to go about that? :b

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Yes'm-- I should probably

Yes'm-- I should probably mention that I'm using Hex Editor Neo to view the file because when I loaded it in Notepad my eyes crossed, there were so many boxes.

And I assume that the only way to know is to try? I picked a pattern to tinker with, specifically one-half of the pattern if that makes sense, and changed the randomly selected hex code to 00 to see what would happen. I'm no longer naked in-forest but my antlers aren't quite gone-- the default antlers are showing up but I still have the option to sneeze them, my antlers, off.

...I'm not even sure I'm editing the right one. Oo Do I edit both patterns or just one half of a pattern.../rhetorical question

Thank you for being so patient with our questionings. Smiling
Draak's picture

*stops lurking* XD I always

*stops lurking* XD

I always end up as a naked deer when I load the forest to check
Yeah me too.

It's probably not something I should do at 3am Laughing out loud

I'm wondering if I'm in the right Antlers section though...I've noticed there's one at the beginning and then theres an "Antlers inventory" or something...are you able to reveal which one to use or not? XD
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Verycrazygirl's picture

Thank you so much for the

Thank you so much for the clues. <3333

Thanks for your help, Ephra

Thanks for your help, Ephra and Ravyn. Smiling
But there is something i'd like to know o: I was wondering if I'm editing the right codes, i'm not sure if we have to edit the Antlers part or the Antlers inventory, or even both. o-o

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XD Yeah, I've noticed

XD Yeah, I've noticed patterns under Antlers Type and Antlers Inventory. Both might have to be edited but I'm leaning more towards the patterns in Antlers Inventory because just above Antlers Type is Spell Collected as opposed to what's above Antlers Inventory which is Save Spell Data. But I could be wrong; I see a pattern and don't really know what to do to it so both areas, theoretically, could be the key to no antlers.

...I'm guessing this is the hard part. Laughing out loud

I'm getting nowhere with

I'm getting nowhere with this, I guess I'm too retarded or lazy.
I always pick with it too much and end up naked. -_-
I don't like patterns, patterns are annoying. WHINING XDDXDXDX
Ephra's picture

Tavani's on a roll here! I

Tavani's on a roll here! I don't remember offhand if it was the type or inventory section, but I think you're right. Or your reasoning sounds right, anyway.

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Custard's picture

Antler type and antler

Antler type and antler inventory? Ehh? D8
I'm determined to do this but I don't wanna break the game and have to reinstall |D

Is it the Deer1AntlersLoD file? D8>
Or the "Player Antlers.cgr"
Gahh you're not gonna answer that for me are you xDD
Oh well, you don't get if you don't ask 8P

EDIT: Guess not it's in Antler Inventory or something? 8o
*tries to find* D8

EDITEDIT: I've been reading above and I've been noticing reucurring patterns, but not in the "Antler inventory" (but I have vista, can't see a file named that... maybe it's named differently?) it's just named "Deer1antlersLoD" and yeah, I see a reccuring pattern... I just don't know what to do |DD

@ Ephra: I might've been on

@ Ephra: Laughing out loud I might've been on a roll but I've suddenly crashed and burned. When I edit the pattern under Antler Inventory, my antlers become the default antlers. I don't know what else I need to do, though, to completely shed them.

@ Custard: The file to look at is the Spelldata file, I think. ^^
Draak's picture

When I edit the pattern

When I edit the pattern under Antler Inventory, my antlers become the default antlers.
I've never got that...only naked deer or TEF itself wont open XD

*goes to stare at the codes some more*
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DraakxMitra C:

If you'd like, I could tell

If you'd like, I could tell you what section of the Spelldata file I'm currently experimenting with. :3 Maybe between the two of us, we could figure it out. Someday. |D
Draak's picture

Ooh yeah, xD team up 8D.

Ooh yeah, xD team up 8D. I've been trying with the sections you mentioned...but...so far no luck with either antler section.
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DraakxMitra C:

Yay, team power! 8D Well, I

Yay, team power! 8D Well, I discovered that by changing any matching character of the bold code under the section of Spell Antlers Inventory would(should) change your current antlers to default while still keeping the ability to sneeze them off:

%q…F®ûKšG~\¹À\ATRC ( ATCT ATCI €‰>%q…F®ûKšG~

Deleting any part renders the deer nude in forest. That's about as far as I've gotten, though. :< I don't know what else needs to be done to shed the antlers. I don't even know if that's the right pattern but changing a part of it does alter the antler's appearance.
Draak's picture

I've managed to pick out

I've managed to pick out that "sentence" too...I've found that by changing the "~" to a "|" gives you that ability to get default antlers while being able to sneeze them off too...but puting that symbol anywhere else seems to give you the naked deer or an epic error that makes you not able to start TEF at all |D. Actually and making that that little "~" to a space also gives you the default antlers.
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DraakxMitra C:

|D Yeah... It'd be nice if

|D Yeah... It'd be nice if there was another hint we could use... One that was just a little more specific. All this messing with the code and not getting anywhere is making me a little sad. :<
Draak's picture

Yeah...I'm getting the same

Yeah...I'm getting the same feeling. I dont know if we're getting closer..or not even close. There's no real...you cant really tell. It's just "naked", "default antlers" or "crash"...it's frustrating with all the hours I've been putting into it |D;
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DraakxMitra C:

Hint/Clue: You need to look

Hint/Clue: You need to look near the bottom of the Antlers Inventory.
Draak's picture

ah? ooh another clue...xDD

ah? ooh another clue...xDD thanks 8D
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DraakxMitra C:

Yay, another clue! 8D Thank

Yay, another clue! 8D Thank you!

Funny thing though. I'm not obsessing over no antlers, rather, my obsession is knowing how to remove them. XD As long as I know how to do something, I'm happy and 95% of the time I won't use it. I'm weird like that.
Draak's picture

|D I do that too...I did

|D I do that too...I did that for Permadevout...though I Permadevout drives me up the wall to try and get it. This no antlers I'd actually use on a regular basis for one of mine.

Ugh its almost 4am...I tried two things in regards to that clue and no luck...I'm not gonna try anymore cos I'll just get cranky |D *scoots off to bed*
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