Needing some help (non tef)

BluedeerLegend18's picture
Okay, so I kinda feel weird about doing this since I feel like this isn't the place to ask these kinds of things. But I know how kind this community is, which is a rarity in this huge world we call the Internet. So I hope that at least one member on here could help, a least a little. I really don't know where else to go. This morning I was feeling depressed when a light bulb popped over my head, and that light bulb is to talk to you guys. I am feeling really hopeful... I just ask if you can help me, even if you know little about this topic. Just tell me all you know about this, because chances are you know more than me.

My cat, Twiggy, was a birthday gift when I turned 13. She had always been skinny, ever since I first saw her at the Humane Society, hence her name. She ate like a pig so we all just assumed it was her metabolism or something. Recently, the problem got worse. A while ago we took her to the vet to get her treated for tapeworms. The last time she had been at the vet, she had weighed 7 pounds. When we took her to the vet this time, she weighed 5. Of course, we thought it was the tapeworms. So we gave her some medicine for them, and that got rid of the worms.

Then, I'm not sure if this is because of the medicine or if it's coincidental, but around the time we first gave her the medicine she wasn't herself. She didn't move and run around as much as she did. She loved to go outside, but she stopped. We took her to the vet again, to check her worms. I wasn't there this time. My mother told me that the vet had felt that one of her kidneys was bigger than the other. She told me there was nothing we can do, but I felt she was lying to me so I called the vet. He had recommended we do blood work, but mom refused to do it because it was expensive. I wanted to pay for it, I mean it was only 200 dollars, I can pay for that. But my mom thought it was stupid. She said that she has kidney problems and there is nothing we could do.

I looked it up, there are plenty of things you can do. But I still really don't know what to do. My mom refuses to put her on any diet, she refuses to give her clean water everyday, and she refuses to do anything to help because she feels like there is nothing we can do.

I came back to my mom's house yesterday, after a trip to Ohio. Twiggy is an a worse condition than she was last week. She is literally nothing but skin and bones. I can feel her one kidney is huge, while I can't feel the other at all. All she does is sit around on the couch, she only gets up for food and water. And her food... she only eats little bites. And when she pees, it's in the same spot on my room, which means she's telling us something is wrong. Her pee is dark orange. She is starting to feel a little better and tried to go outside today, but that is the only thing I can see good about her condition.

I feel horrible. I am 13 going on 14 and I have little, if any, experience in these kinds of things. My mom is not a cat person, and she's so used to having my father do everything for her. She expects for Twiggy to magically get better by dad, but he's not going to do that anymore. Her two other dogs are in horrible shape too, but MY cat is worst. When I leave my dad and step-mom's house, I don't have to worry about our pets. Even though one has cancer that we truly can't do anything about, and our Aussie just recently died from a terrible disease, I know they are getting the best love and care they need. The only reason pets die at my dad's house is because we really, truly can't do anything about it. When I leave my mother's house, I am worried. I'm worried about my cat and the collie and the Dachshund, because my mom refuses to do anything to help them. And I can't do anything. If I could, I would take Twiggy to the vet and pay for whatever needs to be done ASAP. But I can't, my age restricts what I want to do.

She has only lived with us for a year, and I fear that by this Christmas she won't be here...

I am responsible for all this. It was ME who begged my mom for a cat, and I was the one who chose Twiggy to come home with me. If she had ended up with another family, they probably would of taken care of her and when problems like this arose they would take her to the vet and get her treated and she would live the rest of her days happy. But she lives with us, and we treat her like dirt. For the past year I had been too busy playing Skyrim or TF2 or whatever I was overly obsessed with at the time, when I should have been petting and playing with Twiggy. I could have noticed if something was wrong earlier. I would push her away when I was too focused in a game or listening to music, and I feel horrible.

She is only two years old, she had the rest of her life. And I feel like I took that away from her.

I'm paying more attention to her now. I pet her while watching TV or have her sit in my lap while I'm playing TF2, just try to make her feel more loved. I feel like this is the only thing to do, to ask you guys for advice. I know that this place has plenty of older, more experienced cat owners that may have gone through something similar like this. I am just looking for advice, and anything, even something little, would be more than great. This is my last resort. Just... anything, anything at all, to help my Twiggy.

It sounds like Twiggy needs

It sounds like Twiggy needs to see a vet. Since it sounds like your parents are restricted financially or concerned about paying for vet bills, consider asking your mother and father if they will consider Twiggy's treatment bills as an early christmas present to you (in place of other materialistic gifts in december). Try having a look online for local shelters or clinics that offer free or some sort of low-finance option.

If for whatever reason you can't get Twiggy to a vet, just try and make her as comfortable as possible for as long as she has left. It isn't pleasant to consider, but it could be that she is at the end of her life. It's harsh because she is young, but pets do get sick and sometimes we can't help them get better.

If you feel you've neglected Twiggy in the past, try and make up for it now. Do what you can by talking to your parents about a vet visit, or just little things like spending time with Twiggy. I'm not sure what type of food you have her on, but if it is hard pellets, try soaking them in a bit of warm water before you give them to her. She might be more enticed to eat softer, easier to chew things. It won't magically make her better, but it might make things more comfortable for her.

I hope your parents can consider taking Twiggy to a vet, even if they can't afford to have her treated, the vet will certainly have some professional advice that will help. I'm sorry to hear this, it's always hard when pets get sick. Best wishes to you and Twiggy.
BluedeerLegend18's picture

I have talked to my mother

I have talked to my mother about taking Twiggy to the vet, which almost always ends in argument. It's mostly my fault, because when I talk about these things I tend to get emotional and yell things at my mom that I shouldn't. I could try to talk with her about it again, calmly, and perhaps even ask that I pay for some bills.

I'll make sure to make Twiggy as comfortable as possible, it might help take away some of the guilt I have. I even try the soft food thing, maybe she will eat more and gain weight.

Thank you for the advice, it means a lot to me. If Twiggy really is at the end of her life, then I will make her feel loved and comfortable.
I have a Master's degree in Wumbology.

Hm yeah avoiding a shouting

Hm yeah avoiding a shouting match is really important, it's ok to be emotional. You're upset about something that is realistically upsetting, but you also can't resort to blaming your mother. She has her own reasons for not doing what to you (and I) is the obvious right thing to do. I'm sure that you offering to help pay for a significant amount of the bills will help prove you are serious about this, and that you don't expect her to carry all the burden.

I hope you and your mom can come to an agreement about Twiggy. Sad
the_jaybird's picture

I'm going to be honest. This

I'm going to be honest. This sounds like chronic kidney disease. Kidneys have an immense reserve, which is good in terms of acute kidney disease, meaning that you can lose a certain portion and not have any adverse effects.

However, it means that in the case of chronic disease, symptoms will not show until around 75% of the kidney has been lost. By that point there is no way to save the animal, kidney tissue does not regenerate and it is essential for life. Chronic kidney failure can be treated but never cured, if that is the case (and it seems very likely, as it is incredibly common in cats), then I'm afraid that your cat is terminally ill.

If she is treated now, usually they will flush her system with fluids to force her to urinate out all the toxins in her blood despite the impaired kidney function and she will be herself very quicky, but the toxins will build up again eventually.
You might have some more time with her if you treat her now, if you leave her, she will deteriorate extremely quickly. At the moment she will be suffering from nausea, aching and probably headaches, although you're probably too young to know what a hangover feels like, it's probably comparable to that. If it is kidney disease, she's not going to get better on her own.

I suggest that if you need to convince your mother, you give her some information about chronic kidney failure in cats and see if that has any effect?
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BigBunny's picture

What city and state do you

What city and state do you live in? I will try some different searches to see what I come up with and post the web sites on this blog.
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I strongly suggest that

I strongly suggest that nobody on here give out their city or state, because anyone can access this site. Anyone. Bigbunny, I know you were just trying to help, but I'm sure that Bluedeer can research on her own. ♥ Good luck with your cat though. :c I really hope she gets better.
Aivilo's picture

Jaybird, the cat's only 2

Jaybird, the cat's only 2 years old. Renal failure doesn't generally just start in a cat that young. There's likely something else going on.

Blue, look into www.carecredit.com and call vets in your area to see if they accept it. You're too young to apply for a card on your own, but if you can convince one of your parents to put the card in their name and let you make the payments, it may be an option for you to do more for Twiggy's vet visits.
Basically it works like a credit card, but there is no interest as long as you pay off the entirety of the bill within the promotional period (usually 6 months). Do some research on it if you can find a vet who will accept it as payment.

Talk to the vet Twiggy had seen when they recommended doing bloodwork and ask (politely!) if you can discuss the case with the vet (it's better to ask if the vet can call you back on his/her time, DON'T demand to speak to them 'right now' - you're more likely to get a favorable response if you just ask them to have you call you back when they have a minute), see if you can get more information than "we recommended bloodwork" -- ask if they had a list of things that could potentially be wrong, and what the chances are that the problem may be treatable. Ask them if they would be willing to put together a basic estimate for you to work with - that way, you know at least tentatively how much you're getting into financially and you can start saving.

You can also use that estimate to price shop. When you're calling around asking about Care Credit, also ask how much a CBC and a full chemistry panel costs, and if there are any other major tests the first vet recommended, try for them as well.

I've got to go somewhere now, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head, but hopefully it's a starting place for you.
BluedeerLegend18's picture

Thanks everyone, it really

Thanks everyone, it really does mean a lot to me.

There is a local animal clinic in my town, it is literally a five minute drive. Since it's close and easy we always just go to that place. I can look around and see if there's another close-by clinic and see if they're any use, but I doubt my mom would drive further than she has to in order to get to a vet, no matter the quality of that vet. I'm not saying our local vet is bad, but my mom will not take a longer ride to a vet no matter if it's some top special quality vet, especially since she thinks there is nothing we can do for Twiggy at this point.

Jaybird-
I think it's obvious it's a kidney problem, but if it is really as serious as you think it is, then I guess I will have to accept it. But at least I feel better knowing we aren't completely helpless in this situation. while we can't magically cure her and make everything better, we can make her live longer and happier. Problem is, my mother knows that we can't fix this. And she is not willing to pay a lot of money just to keep a cat she doesn't care about a little longer. Maybe if it isn't too expensive to keep her going a little longer without pain, maybe I can talk to my mom and make a deal. I'll pay for the things I can pay for. I might explain to her that while she doesn't care what happens to Twiggy, I do and it would make me depressed to see her go. My birthday is coming up soon, I'll tell mom that instead of some IPad or Kindle or something like that, I want my cat to live longer and not in pain. It will be hard, knowing my mom is very stubborn, but perhaps I can make her see that it would be horrible just leaving her like this. You've made me feel better knowing I can still make her comfortable.

Aivilo-
While the carecredit thing seems useful, I highly doubt my parents would approve of it. Knowing them, they'll think it's a scam of some sort. But maybe when I am older I can look into it and I'm sure I can use it for something useful in the future.

My mom is planning a visit to the vet soon. I might ask to come with so I can talk to the vet. I love my mom but I do not trust she understands what the vet tells her whenever she goes to him, so I feel better if I go with so I can ask any questions I have. I'll talk with my mom and I'll ask the vet about other information than just bloodwork. I have called them before but I would rather ask questions personally.

Once again, thanks guys. I am feeling more confident, and I feel like my guilt has gone away and I feel at ease. While this might be Twiggy's last days I know more about what I can do to make her feel better. I am sad that she'll probably die soon but I feel happy because I think I have the situation under control and I can make sure that when she passes, it will be peacefully. For her last few minutes I'll let her know at least one person will miss her...
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the_jaybird's picture

Aivilo - Renal failure is a

Aivilo - Renal failure is a lot more common in elderly cats, but I've seen too many cases of cats of two or three years old coming into the vets with chronic kidney failure and needing to be put to sleep to dismiss the possibility. Conditions such as polycystic kidney disease, poison such as antifreeze or rat poison and even a severe but untreated kidney infection could lead to a very young cat losing kidney function.

Blue - There are also special diets called renal diets that are good for cats with kidney disease, whatever the cause, it might be worth looking into those too. I really hope it's not as serious as I suggested and she can be made better, but as the others said, her comfort is the most important thing to think about.
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Aivilo's picture

the_jaybird wrote:Conditions

the_jaybird wrote:
Conditions such as polycystic kidney disease, poison such as antifreeze or rat poison and even a severe but untreated kidney infection could lead to a very young cat losing kidney function.

Those are acute renal failure issues, not chronic, hence why I said it's unlikely a chronic issue and something else is going on. 'Something else' would indicate the causes you listed here, such as a kidney infection, etc.
tldr; we agree there's some sort of renal issue, but the cat's corpuscules probably haven't just degenerated over a long period of time; something has affected them to cause this way earlier than it should, be it some sort of congenital defect or toxin/infection, etc. Whether or not it's truly irreversible at this point depends on what the cause is, so let's leave that up to the vet and not doom the cat to death until that diagnosis is made by the correct professional.

Blue - Care credit is a legit, reputable resource. It can be used for more than vet visits, too - there are some human doctors/dentists/etc it can be used for, and it can only be used for medical payments. We accept it at the veterinary clinic I work at.
If worst comes to worst and your mom won't let you do anything for Twiggy, keep an eye on her and make sure she doesn't have to suffer at the end. Best wishes to both of you ♥
BluedeerLegend18's picture

I think I know how this all

I think I know how this all started.

Before she got sick, Twiggy used go out and catch mice.

They must have been poisoned...
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Aivilo's picture

It's worth mentioning to your

It's worth mentioning to your vet, but don't get yourself set on "this is the problem" without discussing things with the vet first.