Kids, their mothers, anger, and video games (Non-TEF + language warning!)
April 18, 2011 - 1:46am — quadraptor
Strict warning - these videos generally contain pretty bad language, so be warned before you watch them!
This one I believe is fairly safe except a few words at the very end.
Another WoW based one
Honeyfur found this one
Another "famous" one of a german kid trying to play Unreal Tournament
Definite language warning on the following two. Watch at your own risk!
Whatever happened to honoring your parents? Did he seriously just say "I want some m*****f***ing chocolate milk" to his own mom?!
Popular video of a kid named Croyt going nuts on Halo 2.
Some more, though not as much language they still have language so be warned These are all Rock Band related.
The drummer's got the right words here. "It's just a f***ing game, dude!"
Drums is pretty tough anyway.
Another drums-based one.
This time both the guitarist and drummer failed out, but it was the guitarist who went nuts.
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So the reason why I posted these is for two purposes:
1 - Serious discussion about game/internet etiquette and how kids are being raised these days
2 - I wanted to know if anyone else knew any videos like these of kids being scolded by their parents on video games and/or screaming and raging because of a video game.
This is just sad. It's just sad that some people take video games personally, and think it's the end of the world when they have to get off and do something more important and productive. It's not healthy, and quite frankly I'd hate to see what they become at a later age, especially if they start out young, like in the second video.
I found some more, mostly Rock Band-based ones where the person actually destroys their guitar/drums controller after failing a song.
I wish there was an answer, but this is just evidence that our generation is the 'age of entitlement'. I often feel really ashamed to be in the same age group.
I agree with you and Honeyfur.I feel very annoyed at these people but I also can't help feeling bad for them.I wish they would'nt take a game so seriously.
My friends brother dropped out of high school just to play War of Worldcraft all day long for crying out loud!
If I were the parents of those kids, they wouldn't have games. Especially the second one- he wouldn't have much of anything after that. His room would pretty much be stripped of everything except the furniture and books, and he'd probably never get any of it back. Its frightening how seriosuly some people take games to be, and how violent they become- even little kids! Its also frightening that these kids are like this, and actually think its appropriate to talk and behave the way they are... there's a pretty heavy combination of parenting issues mixed with a growing social trend of gaming obsessions and negative/violent internet culture that kids get exposed to often way too early...
I had a comment previous to this one, but it turned into just a ramble which got me to thinking more about this blog and the comments posted in it (as of my post anyway).
What sort of discussion are we expecting? I expect this to dissolve into a series of 'Kids these days, so rude, no morals, makes me ashamed' comments. It's obvious that there are people (not just kids, sadly) who are rude, and often that rude behavior gets throw around the net. We know this, likely we've all experienced it at some point. Is anything positive going to come from this discussion? Does this really need to be said, none of us want to end up acting like that do we?
Personally, I think the most positive thing we all can do is just make sure we don't act in the manner of the individuals in those videos. Lead by example and all that good stuff.
i agree with terebetha asked/said.
also, i just wanted to say that world of warcraft/videogames in general isn't/aren't ~*evil*~ and makes all kids want to drop out, etc. i personally know a guy, elliot, who gets paid to play world of warcraft and takes ap courses. i can't remember all of his classes, but i know one is ap chemistry, and maybe ap calculus? he doesn't fail them, either.
I'd like to learn more about what causes this behavior and if there are any possible solutions to 'curing' it. That's really the discussion I had in mind.
I'm starting to wonder how much of this really is influenced by the parents, and alternatively, how much is influenced by their children wanting to be rebellious.
Ah alright, now I have a bit of a direction for my thoughts, thanks Quad.
I think my main concern with this issue would be that all of these videos are just an out of context slice of these people's lives. We know little to nothing about their status or the stresses acting upon them, where as if I had my hands on actual case studies I would feel more safe in assuming their reasons for acting this way. None of this justifies such behavior however, and it scares me mainly because video games are not the one sole trigger for such out-bursts. A low test score, an off-handed criticism, a disagreeable comment, all of these could spark the same violence and harsh response as seen in the above videos.
I think the anonymity of the internet (you can be whoever you want here, real you or otherwise), and the sheer distance between people allows for much less fear of repercussion. People say things via text they would never say to someone's face, usually for fear of retribution or penalty.
As for curing this, I have no idea, but I wish I did. As with most things though, starting young and imparting the right sensibilities is a fantastic start. To get personal for a moment, some of my first experience with video games was A) Mavis Beacon, a typing tutor game and B) DOOM...yes...I was a 10-something year old playing DOOM on my dad's knee. I was chainsawing people apart before I could make myself breakfast! But my father taught me that it was a game, and was quick to tell me that I should never drop the F-bomb, even if Duke Nukem thought it was ok. Maybe all these people needed was a role model to play with them and remind them of the difference between screen and reality.
Personally I just thing children like this are spoiled brats who weren't punished enough as children when they did wrong.
>kid does something wrong
>hit kid
>kid knows it's bad
>???
>Everybody wins!
It's how I was raised anyway, and even to this day I wouldn't dare cuss lightly. I don't even say 'hell' around my mother. I do what I am told to do, when I am told to do it.
Am I perfect? No, but I wouldn't dream of throwing a tantrum or smarting back in such a way.
I know some people disagree, but I personally believe that a firm quick swat to the behind works.
Having games is a privilege, not a right.
I actually generally don't get along with other people my age, most of my friends are in/near their twenties. I don't like children. I don't like how they act. Speak. Do things. or generally anything about them.
As someone who played Quake for 12 years, I've had my own experiences with anger, both directed toward me and anger i've dished out. But it was never to the point of screaming or throwing/destroying things in real life. I rather attacked and criticized people in the game and on the forums for the game. But alternatively, much of the community there does the exact same things back.
I can understand that this sense of entitlement is far more broad than just video games. I will admit that when seeing much of the programming on MTV and VH1, I'm pretty appalled that the shows seem to encourage this entitled behavior. One show was about teenage moms, and in one case the girl stole her mom's credit card to take her friends out for sushi. When the mother called, she literally said, "I don't care what you think." and hung up. I feel like these television channels also have some impact on how our generation sees the world.
I agree with what everyone else has said. From personal experience with my brother, children tend to have anger management issues I suppose.
At a young age he would throw things, destroy consoles or remote controls, put dents in the walls or doors, but he grew out of it. At 19 now, he's so stoic it's like he's a different person, very matured.
When it comes to gaming, lol. He won't ever scream or yell like he did as a child.
The thing you have to remember with these youtube videos is that some of these children may already have standing emotional and mental issues that may cause them to react differently than someone in a healthy state of mind. These hardly apply to the masses.
This is just sad. It's just
Found another video like the ones above. Slight language warning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWBfLOZ2CjQ
I found some more, mostly
I wish there was an answer, but this is just evidence that our generation is the 'age of entitlement'. I often feel really ashamed to be in the same age group.
I agree with you and
My friends brother dropped out of high school just to play War of Worldcraft all day long for crying out loud!
Wow. That's.... all that
If I were the parents of those kids, they wouldn't have games. Especially the second one- he wouldn't have much of anything after that. His room would pretty much be stripped of everything except the furniture and books, and he'd probably never get any of it back. Its frightening how seriosuly some people take games to be, and how violent they become- even little kids! Its also frightening that these kids are like this, and actually think its appropriate to talk and behave the way they are... there's a pretty heavy combination of parenting issues mixed with a growing social trend of gaming obsessions and negative/violent internet culture that kids get exposed to often way too early...
I had a comment previous to
What sort of discussion are we expecting? I expect this to dissolve into a series of 'Kids these days, so rude, no morals, makes me ashamed' comments. It's obvious that there are people (not just kids, sadly) who are rude, and often that rude behavior gets throw around the net. We know this, likely we've all experienced it at some point. Is anything positive going to come from this discussion? Does this really need to be said, none of us want to end up acting like that do we?
Personally, I think the most positive thing we all can do is just make sure we don't act in the manner of the individuals in those videos. Lead by example and all that good stuff.
i agree with terebetha
also, i just wanted to say that world of warcraft/videogames in general isn't/aren't ~*evil*~ and makes all kids want to drop out, etc. i personally know a guy, elliot, who gets paid to play world of warcraft and takes ap courses. i can't remember all of his classes, but i know one is ap chemistry, and maybe ap calculus? he doesn't fail them, either.
I'd like to learn more about
I'm starting to wonder how much of this really is influenced by the parents, and alternatively, how much is influenced by their children wanting to be rebellious.
Ah alright, now I have a bit
I think my main concern with this issue would be that all of these videos are just an out of context slice of these people's lives. We know little to nothing about their status or the stresses acting upon them, where as if I had my hands on actual case studies I would feel more safe in assuming their reasons for acting this way. None of this justifies such behavior however, and it scares me mainly because video games are not the one sole trigger for such out-bursts. A low test score, an off-handed criticism, a disagreeable comment, all of these could spark the same violence and harsh response as seen in the above videos.
I think the anonymity of the internet (you can be whoever you want here, real you or otherwise), and the sheer distance between people allows for much less fear of repercussion. People say things via text they would never say to someone's face, usually for fear of retribution or penalty.
As for curing this, I have no idea, but I wish I did. As with most things though, starting young and imparting the right sensibilities is a fantastic start. To get personal for a moment, some of my first experience with video games was A) Mavis Beacon, a typing tutor game and B) DOOM...yes...I was a 10-something year old playing DOOM on my dad's knee. I was chainsawing people apart before I could make myself breakfast! But my father taught me that it was a game, and was quick to tell me that I should never drop the F-bomb, even if Duke Nukem thought it was ok. Maybe all these people needed was a role model to play with them and remind them of the difference between screen and reality.
Personally I just thing
>kid does something wrong
>hit kid
>kid knows it's bad
>???
>Everybody wins!
It's how I was raised anyway, and even to this day I wouldn't dare cuss lightly. I don't even say 'hell' around my mother. I do what I am told to do, when I am told to do it.
Am I perfect? No, but I wouldn't dream of throwing a tantrum or smarting back in such a way.
I know some people disagree, but I personally believe that a firm quick swat to the behind works.
Having games is a privilege, not a right.
I actually generally don't get along with other people my age, most of my friends are in/near their twenties. I don't like children. I don't like how they act. Speak. Do things. or generally anything about them.
As someone who played Quake
I can understand that this sense of entitlement is far more broad than just video games. I will admit that when seeing much of the programming on MTV and VH1, I'm pretty appalled that the shows seem to encourage this entitled behavior. One show was about teenage moms, and in one case the girl stole her mom's credit card to take her friends out for sushi. When the mother called, she literally said, "I don't care what you think." and hung up. I feel like these television channels also have some impact on how our generation sees the world.
I agree with what everyone
At a young age he would throw things, destroy consoles or remote controls, put dents in the walls or doors, but he grew out of it. At 19 now, he's so stoic it's like he's a different person, very matured.
When it comes to gaming, lol. He won't ever scream or yell like he did as a child.
The thing you have to