Kind of a vent maybe??

LowLights's picture
It's not an emotional vent like depression, etc, idk if I should really call it a vent? Maybe more of a confession.

I'm afraid that I get judged for not drawing my characters and judged I'm not taking care of them.
I want to write about them but I have a major writers block lately and it's frustrating as all hell.
I don't know, I just get afraid I'm seen as a bad owner or 'mother' of my characters because I don't draw them.

I honestly want to draw them so bad and draw other people's characters(because they're awesome holy) but I don't know where to start, don't even know how to draw a circle to get started, I lack motivation and patience for it.
Is there any tips for this?? I have a creative mind and although I love writing, I also feel the need to express the scenario or characters in a more visual way? I'll get inspired by just the way the wood floor at my grandmother forms things and I get frustrated because I can't draw it.

Well, I guess this turned more into a vent & confession than a rant, rofl.
phantomhelsing's picture

Naaah you aren't a bad mom to

Naaah you aren't a bad mom to your character babies don't worry lol
Even when I first joined this site, when I was my most active, hardly drew my own deer. There's only a handful of stuff with him in it. Their your characters you can draw them as much or as little as you want, no one really holds a standard for how much you draw your own ideas. Someone might wish you'd draw them more because they love them but they won't think you're a bad creator if you don't, so don't stress ^^

And I understand, I've been an artist my whole life and even went to school for it and I suddenly find myself unable to do it, no motivation or drive and just constantly frustrated because my nature revolves around my imagination and bringing my ideas to life and telling stories. So I understand the frustration, but the biggest step to overcoming that is to forgive yourself and get out of your own way. What I mean by that is even though you feel like you have no skill or you'll never be able to properly put ideas to paper or you go into it thinking it's going to suck, you have to acknowledge it and go, so what? So what if it doesn't come out right, I did it anyways and I can always try again.

When I was in highschool just starting my art career I couldn't figure out how all these professional artists were so good, and I was scared that when I got to college I'd never catch up with them. But when I got there, I figured out that no one ever stops making bad art. No matter what it was, sculpting, designing, writing, all of us just kept making bad art until eventually it happened less and less, that's what being an artist is, you do it until you don't suck and keep doing it because there will be days where it'll suck again. But that's fine! We have to let go of the notion of being perfect at art, just go do it, even if it's bad just do it.

I've have notebooks and half-finished art files of really bad art, and when I write I usually write something that has really obnoxiously flowery dialogue and hardly any structure and blech, but I get it out of my system. If you hold back for fear of it being awful, it'll always be awful.

And in that same line of thought, being a beginner artist is ok, it can be daunting and confusing on how to start, but luckily in this day and age there's tons of ways to help you teach yourself for free and there is absolutely no harm in approaching an advanced artist to ask for help. Most of them won't be bothered by it as long as you're polite and ill be more than happy to help you.

In fact, what specifically are you having trouble with? Do you just want to learn how to draw deer to get you started? What do you specifically want to learn to do? Once you've made something, anything, ask for someone to look it over, only then can they help you see what went wrong and show you how to fix it, and then also point out what went right to encourage you further.

Being creative is amazing and fun, and yet also frustrating, and not every day is going to be a good day and sometimes it's really going to suck, but create anyways. Whatever you create is good because YOU made it, you've made good art because you went ahead and did it even if you were unsure.

LowLights's picture

For drawing, the trouble for

For drawing, the trouble for me is literally getting started. How to start, where to start, etc and yeah. I wanna start drawing deer for TEF then branch off to other animals like cats, dogs and more.

For writing, the problem for me is I imagine scenes in my head like artwork or a movie instead of thinking what words to write and when I think of a scene, it's a scene I have to lead up to and I get stuck doing that.

But thank you, I needed these words.
phantomhelsing's picture

Do you have any drawing

Do you have any drawing programs or did you want to stick to pencil and paper? Because whichever you'd like to explore I can help with ^^

And I'm not the best teacher but I'm going to do my best to send you in the right direction,

here's a video on specifically how to draw animals:
https://youtu.be/7e5cWMA6kbw

pair that with looking photos and other reference of deer and studying from them and go from there.
This artist is Sycra by the way, and I'd highly suggest exploring the rest of his youtube channel, especially his How to Draw and Paint video playlist. There's lots of beginner drawing videos in there, like how to use color, using perspective, and so on.

How to Draw and Paint Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0373FA2B3CD4C899

Getting Started: Tutorials for Beginners Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV2X3tgajVlEAo91iOj8w5YizC_fLULzu

Foundations of Light and Shadow Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV2X3tgajVlHkH3FHxm3rLZWqScFTRhtv

Composition for Artists Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV2X3tgajVlHEWoxhxHBV5JyU7R80LT9R

I know that's A LOT of stuff but I'm giving it to you for you to explore at your own pace and pick what you'd like to learn, since I don't know what foundation art knowledge you have already. A lot of these are nice to listen to as you work on other things, I'll usually sit at my desk answering emails or even drawing while I watch art videos lol.

I'll recommend a few more artists that I personally learn from and you can see if any of them interest you ( a lot of the artists I follow tailor specifically to concept art and illustration for game design but I tried to pick stuff that was a little more general):

Proko - https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV/featured
really nice general art channel, lots of anatomy tutorials and basic drawing guides

Kienan Lafferty - https://www.youtube.com/user/KienanLafferty/featured
a little bit more digital art centered, but really nice for learning a more cartoony approach and has some great tutorials on color

Aaron Blaise - https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArt/featured
a veteran Disney animator and character designer, focuses mainly on nature stuff, check out his Art Tips playlist for some more foundation tutorials, he also does a livestream every Thursday afternoon where you can ask him questions live as he paints. You can talk to a legit Disney animator, it's pretty awesome.

I'd also recommend looking at Art Station's magazine - https://magazine.artstation.com/
under the Art Skills tab there's a bunch of nice painting demos and tutorials and resources

So obviously I have a TON of art sources that you can pick and choose at your leisure and I or anyone here would be more than glad to help you with anything else you need art-wise Smiling

As for writing....I'm even less of a good teacher for that lol. Writing I mostly figured out on my own from reading books and watching movies and playing games and figuring out what I liked and didn't like about the characters and worlds and stories they presented me, and emulating it into my own style. I only had maybe 1 or 2 classes where I learned anything about storytelling. So I have no idea where to begin with tips, especially because once you know basic structural stuff like good grammar and how a story is structured, it's a bunch of experimenting and personal preference. I can dig around my old school files and see if there's any documents or presentations my professors gave me that I can share, or you can show me or someone else something you've written for a critique.

Luckily you're in the right place to develop your writing, either through RP'ing with others through text or writing your own stories and posting them, and no one will care if you think your writing is shaky, trust me, when I was 15 and joined this site I posted some cringe-worthy writing lol People here are just happy to see you make something and share it with them c:
LowLights's picture

Oh boy, I know that feeling.

Oh boy, I know that feeling. I joined when I was about 10(I'm 15) now and I posted a lot of cringey stuff that would make your heart hurt.
Unfortunately, my writing is probably off too because I don't RP much anymore. I was told it would trigger higher chances of me developing schizophrenia(my bio-dad is schizo) and I would imagine these characters, it didn't freak me out to the point where I wanted to stop but after that, I felt like I was subconsciously drifting away from it?? Idk.

And those are a lot of videos to choose from, I had a homeschooling teacher who did art and I honestly forgot everything because we only did it twice..
I don't have any drawing programs and the only bit of drawing I've ever done is traditional but I want to do both.
I'm basically like beginner beginner.

I actually have a story I posted on here, it's a vent really but yeah. I feel it lacks detail or more words to sound interesting and lacks making a word not overused. Something's felt like it's been killing my writing, honestly.
WonderfullySarcastic's picture

I recently learned a couple

I recently learned a couple little things to tell yourself for any creator, art, writing or otherwise:

"Finished, not Perfect."
and
"You have to get the bad lines out (of your pencil, pen, etc.) before you can really start drawing"

Like, seriously, no matter how many times you look at what you've made, 9/10 you'll find something later that you want to fix after you've completed the piece. It's great to want to improve, but you can't improve without being bad at something first. Believe me, as a perfectionist, I tried to be good at drawing before I even set pencil to paper. It just doesn't work that way.

But people don't care if there's flaws or something just a bit askew. As a part of the audience, it's always always always great to see people make art and write. Always. The people that care about you will be happy that you put a little bit of yourself out there to be seen and appreciated. It's a great reason to give it a start here in the community! Srs. You may not be thrilled to post anything, for fear of people negatively criticizing, but we're all here and more than happy to help anyway we can.

As for getting started drawing, just a trick I personally do, is start off with either a circle and think of how it fits into the 'body' (usually ends up the head~) of my drawing, or I just start with some small squiggle and let it grow. Even if the squiggle-drawing doesn't turn into anything, it was only a squiggle and gets your brain going on what you'd actually like to be drawing.

Also. References. References for everything! \o/ I tend to piecemeal my references together, but hey, what I want to draw generally isn't all encompassed in a single ref. picture, and that's totally cool.

But yea. Getting started is hard. And so is making your works public. Scary as all get out, but it's just something we train ourselves against, to get up over those hurdles.

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phantomhelsing's picture

Thought I'd add one more

Thought I'd add one more thing since you mentioned wanting to learn digital and didn't have any programs:

Krita is a great program, it's pretty much on par with the industry standard programs like Photoshop or Corel Painter, it has a few minor things that are different that make me prefer Photoshop over it but it's improving all the time, it even supports animation now.

and it's FREE, the best word ever to hear about an art program lol