Could

Tolvia's picture
Could you community-people:

- Stop making threads for attention and then making over 3 more.
- Stop telling people what they should and shouldnt do with their characters
- Stop being so scared to voice your opinion and tell the truth.
- Stop publicly humiliating people
- Save ranting for facebook and Bebo

Even if its on this thread, tell the truth.

Why dont you do what a couple of players have in their siggys, and one player tells me all the time; If you dont like it, ignore it and get on with your life. Because if you dont im just gonna go ahead and stamp an "idiot" stamp on your forehead.

I have one on mine. |D

Seele's picture

I think you just did the same

I think you just did the same as you're complaining against..
If you have a problem with someone, Private-message them Tolvia. You know how it works.

Also, just a slliiighttt contribution to your pretty-truthfull thread here. Read it again and re-think what you do about this yourself Smiling
Tolvia's picture

Isnt a rant its a suggestion

Isnt a rant its a suggestion and im not seeking attention.

And I dont explore the TEF site much, so I dont know how to PM and dont want to, personally.

And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.

"If you don't like it ignore

"If you don't like it ignore it"
Agreed, but the sword cuts both ways.
Seele's picture

Go to their profile -> At the

Go to their profile -> At the upper left, next to Track and such, there often is a "Contact" form. You can contact people from there on Smiling Sometimes, there isn't, so it could be an idea to either contact one of their friends to ask for the email adress, or make a blog in which you could ask certain person for a private convo.
I'm going to say something really stupid, but technically making a blog is seeking attention. You want people to read it, to get their "attention". That's also what a suggestion is. Also, public humilation is when you call people you don't know really well names Smiling Like, attention seeker! That, I think, and you know, is public humiliation.
Ookani's picture

There's a difference between

There's a difference between standing up for your opinion, and outright badmouthing someone to their face. You said something hurtful and personal to Lex, so I stood up for him.

If you don't like him, you don't have to tell him. You can just keep that sort of thing to yourself rather than going out of your way to hurt him.
Tolvia's picture

@ Seele | Gracias ^^ @

@ Seele | Gracias ^^

@ Ookani | Nope, I was telling the truth. Truth hurts, get over it.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.

The truth doesn't have to

The truth doesn't have to hurt, but I guess it's more fun your way?
Ookani's picture

I contest that. You weren't

I contest that. You weren't telling the truth, you were stating an opinion of the person that you must have known would hurt them to speak. So, why did you do it? Why would you try to directly hurt someone? It's not as if you just said you liked a different sports team, you told lex to his face that you disliked him.

I'm gonna stop being nice now. What the fuck?
Tolvia's picture

Um. I have a way of

Um. I have a way of explaining it but this might not make sense. At all. Bare with me?

My way of telling the truth is a lot more different then it would be for most people on TEF and in the real world, I tell it how I see it and more then often im called 'Rude' and 'hurtfull' because of it. Not that I mind. Im quiet blunt as well, I think that beating around the bush really doesnt help and sometimes lifts hopes up before making them come crashing down. So, I tell the truth in the most blunt way I can.

If you dont understand, maybe you should just go on thinking that im a rude hurtfull cow.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Tolvia's picture

I was telling the truth, the

I was telling the truth, the truth that comes from my mouth and no one elses. Its all of what I see in that boy, Nothing more nothing less and no one can change that. I did it because he asked.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Ookani's picture

I have a friend with high

I have a friend with high level aspergers and he thinks very carefully about telling someone he dislikes them. He wouldn't say something like that.

I'm sorry, but here's /my/ opinion: I think Lex deserves an apology.
Tolvia's picture

Im not that friend. Heres my

Im not that friend.

Heres my reply: I will when hell freezes over.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.

I can totally understand what

I can totally understand what you mean Tolvia, really I do. There is always a time and place for such blunt honesty, sometimes people just need sense beaten into them. However, I don't think you've realized that not all instances require such force, or maybe it's just that you don't care.

I just think it's sad that you'd prefer being called a hurtful cow over having people respect your opinions as the honest critique they could be. The only difference is a little bit of consideration.
Just put some thought behind that, since I can see this is part of your self-identity...but I'm sure there's better ways to present yourself to the world than the face you've chosen to present at the moment. I've never seen someone willingly open themselves up to such hurt-full language (nobody would get away with calling me a cow, that's for sure!).
Tolvia's picture

You said something that I do

You said something that I do know - If I dont know the person, I dont care. But rest assured I'd never do it to you because reading a couple of your posts on the forum gave me respect for you. <3

I dont mind it - thats the internet. Im different in real life.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.

It's a shame somebody has to

It's a shame somebody has to earn your respect for you to consider treating them decently.
Tolvia's picture

I know, but thats how I deal

I know, but thats how I deal with things.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Verycrazygirl's picture

Could you quite frankly keep

Could you quite frankly keep your bitchy attitude out of TEF?

Ookani's picture

Man, I would /die/ for a

Man, I would /die/ for a block, hide, or ignore feature on the site right now.
Tolvia's picture

Great suggestion but im gonna

Great suggestion but im gonna say no thanks, I quiet like it here. Thanks for telling me about it.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Verycrazygirl's picture

You've got I.T to behave this

You've got I.T to behave this way.
You have reality to behave this way.
Don't spread it into this community, nobody likes it.

Reyy's picture

Hmm. Brutal honesty is nice

Hmm.
Brutal honesty is nice to have. Not always, though.
Watch what you say, because sometimes the brutal part isn't necessary, as Terabetha said.

In fact, this blog wasn't necessary.
Oh, and so is your attitude.
Tolvia's picture

@ Lottie | Sorry but this is

@ Lottie | Sorry but this is what i grew up in to. Dont like it, dont like me, I dont mind.

@ Ravynn | I guess I am a little apologetic about the way I act, but its how i've grown to be and learned to deal with things.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Ookani's picture

Well, the way you act has

Well, the way you act has alienated people from you, afronted and offended them too. So you need to change the way you behave- even if it's just on this site alone- rather than just excusing yourself from blame, otherwise people will just continue to be hurt by you and eventually you won't have any friends left to offend.
The fact that you don't care that you've hurt people is deeply concerning.
Tolvia's picture

I've said it before - I

I've said it before - I behave different in real life then I do on the net because the people in the real world actually take things into consideration instead of instantly sticking up for someone they barely know because someone else has said that my comment is 'wrong'.

Im changing myself in real life, I dont want to change my net self.

Deal with it.

- G'night.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Verycrazygirl's picture

Howl, you were awesome 13

Howl, you were awesome 13 months ago. Now... you disgust me.

bubblywums's picture

I literally can't believe you

I literally can't believe you people are acting like this right now. This is a community, not a boxing match. Please take your personal arguments somewhere else.

Tolvia, you have some valid points but there is no need to word them with hostility. If you use a more approachable attitude I know people would respect you and your opinions more. Your apparent rudeness has no excuse, nor does anyone elses here.

Everyone else, mind your manners. Just because this is the internet doesn't mean you can throw your decency out the window.
Snowrift's picture

Hoora not being on TEF for a

Hoora not being on TEF for a week and coming back to this Laughing out loud

I hate seeing threads like this. Hate. It.
Your right on everything, but honestly, nomatter what you say or how much depth you put into it. It wont change. Nomatter how many threads are made about it, it wont change.

These things just fire us up more than calm us down.
quadraptor's picture

Mhmm, I don't think this kind

Mhmm, I don't think this kind of behavior is necessary. People come to this site to get away from everyday life, not for drama. I'm sorry but this judgemental attitude is rude.

Tolvia, if you don't like this site, just don't come on here. There are many players who avoid the community site and just enjoy TEF for the environment and friendship they find in game. I hate to say it, but you need to practice what you preach on this topic. You've hurt one of my friends' feelings, and really if you want to pick on people, go play Halo or something instead of coming here.

I'll be as honest as I can be - if you can't be mature here, then you shouldn't be here.
Snowrift's picture

^ Exactly

^ Exactly
Tuhka's picture

*epic facepalms at this

*epic facepalms at this stupid quarreling*

Quote:
Everyone else, mind your manners. Just because this is the internet doesn't mean you can throw your decency out the window.

Yes.
It's no use to answer the fire with fire. Only results people getting hurt, just like now. >__>
Ookani's picture

You're right, Jen, Quad,

You're right, Jen, Quad, Quammy.
I'm sorry for being harsh to Tolvia, I was just hurt and reacted from the gut.
However, I'm still not happy with her attitude but, I'll try not to flip my lid again.
Grape's picture

And this, my friends, is what

And this, my friends, is what we call a troll.

Your posts are what we call food.

One of the rules of the internet: Don't feed the troll

Gobbling all of this up, are we, Tolvia? Enjoying the display of hurt emotions? Cyberbullying is a real problem, you know. People DO take in consideration what others say on the net. You say you don't act like this in real life; that makes you a coward. You hide behind a computer screen. Not to say I'm too surprised, seeing as that is what trolls are known for.

My fellow TEF players, I only have one word of advice. STOP. FEEDING. THE TROLL. You're baiting the little thing!
Ookani's picture

Shouldn't the point of TEF is

Shouldn't the point of TEF is that we don't have to worry about Trolls?

Trolls are the things you get on 4chan, not here.

Also, how is my apologizing for being an ass myself, feeding said troll? =/
-- This account belongs to Moss/3, now. 's picture

lol.

lol.
Tolvia's picture

@ VCG | 13 months ago I was

@ VCG | 13 months ago I was happy to follow in your footsteps and be a little sheep for you to herd around. Now, im not. Dont like it, tolerate it, thats what you tell me.

@ Grape | I am not a troll, if I was there would be several other people calling me a troll. Plus, I dont qualify. I am not enjoying the display of hurt emotions, What LexFirehind did to Pinkpaws and Raimundo's player was internet bullying and no one else is saying that to him, are they? I dont act like this in real life because im trying to change myself. Last week I was the same on the internet as I am now, I'll change my net-self when I please, thank you. Coward is the wrong word for a girl like me.

If im such a coward, then how am I able to voice my opinions on this site - and others - without worrying what people will think of me?

If im such a coward how am I still able to reply to the topic that I made?

& Im not little im 5ft 2. >w>
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Tolvia's picture

@ Quad | Your a lovely member

@ Quad | Your a lovely member of the community, as I have been told by different players, and its nice that you've voiced your opinion. Except your on a side that wont win a fight with me.

If people come to get away from drama, then why does a certain player create multiple threads complaining about others and being a total cow | Lame, I know, but I dont want to swear. Not properly. | and then making more about how s/he is going to self harm and then another asking for yet more attention.

I didnt say I didnt like the site. I tolerate it. Thats enough.

And I can name atleast one person that is immature in a way that reminds me of my four year old cousin.

- -

Oh and did you know that by replying to this topic saying im rude and calling me a troll is going against what you believe in because that, my friends, is a form of cyberbullying.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Ookani's picture

Are you done yet?

Are you done yet?
Tolvia's picture

Are you?

Are you?
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Reyy's picture

This is getting annoying. If

This is getting annoying.

If Tolvia wants to have a shitty attitude, then by all means, let her.
She is the one that will end up with no friends at all. (:

Keep in mind, Tolvia, that this place is a chance to escape reality, drama and the negatives in life, and it won't be much of an escape if you're hated here and looked upon in disgust. (:
I mean, you're ruining it for you, not us. (;
Tolvia's picture

I know that, so then why are

I know that, so then why are you all so hyped up about me doing this?
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Reyy's picture

We respond to negative things

We respond to negative things on this community, because we are a community.
Not only that, there have been plenty of other complaints about suicides, as well as complaints about the complaints.

It makes this post unnecessary along with the others.
I'm not saying don't share your opinion, but this subject really has to go and I'm pretty sure we're ALL tired of seeing this topic brought up repeatedly.
Tolvia's picture

Its necassery in my P.O.V.

Its necassery in my P.O.V.

& if you dont like seeing it brought up then stop posting. C:

And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Alecsander's picture

I'm all for brutal honesty, I

I'm all for brutal honesty, I usually take that route also, but there is a fine line between being honest and being vindictive.

It's obvious who this thread is targeted it. I barely know the prominent members of the community and immediately knew that you were talking specifically about Lex.

I'm glad you can get it off your chest, but at this point it is just becoming retaliatory.
I, and I assume others, are very aware that you have problems with this user.
I honestly can't see your motive in continuing to pick at them and humiliating them for what they chose to post on the site.

Does driving another member of the community away going to magically improve it in your eyes and right whatever wrongs you happen to see?

No, I don't hate you. I don't even know you, so what point is there jumping all over you and defending someone else I barely know because you're "waaahh being mean!!".

I just think you've had your say, albeit not in the most polite manner, and everyone needs to sit back, go outside, and take a breather before they respond in an even worse manner and someone bounds over the 'line of good taste'.
-- This account belongs to Moss/3, now. 's picture

Look, I don't know why you're

Look, I don't know why you're bothering with all this stuff.
People have tried before but it doesn't work and all your doing is being hipocritical [/failed spelling]

You're complaining at poeple writing pointless blogs and being angry and stuff which is what you're doing.
So, yeah. Good luck controlling people who are impossible to be controlled and have no need to beee~

Ah, I make no sense.
Reyy's picture

Actually Tolvia, it seems the

Actually Tolvia, it seems the only thing necessary to you is causing a problem on here.
Congratulations on making yourself look absolutely ridiculous.
In fact, you should save yourself some humility and delete this post because I'm pretty sure most of the community is already really tired of hearing from you and your negativity. (;
bubblywums's picture

If you have a problem with a

If you have a problem with a person here, take it up with them. You don't have to publicly humiliate them. Lex is a very nice person and doesn't deserve this, this could have been handled in a much more private and mature manner. I don't know what you think you've accomplished here by posting this.
Tolvia's picture

First of all, I'd like to say

First of all, I'd like to say thank you for replying and not instantly punching my face in like most people in this thread.

Yes, Most of my examples come from LexFirehind. And yes, I do have a problem with her. A big problem.

"Does driving another member of the community away going to magically improve it in your eyes and right whatever wrongs you happen to see?"

No, its not going to help. I know that.

"No, I don't hate you. I don't even know you, so what point is there jumping all over you and defending someone else I barely know because you're "waaahh being mean!!". "

Holymongoose, thats a first on this thread! Care to explain what 'vindictive' means? I really dont know >w>
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Ookani's picture

It's been said before, but

It's been said before, but perhaps from here on out, no one should post in this thread anymore.
If Tolvia continues to post in it to raise more hackles, she'll just be spamming the community side and her post might get taken down, solving all of our problems.

I for one, am done here.
Tolvia's picture

"Congratulations on making

"Congratulations on making yourself look absolutely ridiculous."

Congratulations on learning how to be rude, like me. C; Nooooo Im not gonna delete the post so... give up? |D

"You don't have to publicly humiliate them."

Dont have to, but I didnt choose to, other people brought it up for me.

"If Tolvia continues to post in it to raise more hackles, she'll just be spamming the community side"

If thats how you'd like to put it, go ahead.
And,
She will be loved,
Oh she will be loved.
Alecsander's picture

Vindictive means intended

Vindictive means intended for/involving revenge or (second def) intended to cause anguish or hurt.
Smiling

I don't feel this thread was the best way to handle the situation, but it is quite the refreshing fart in a field full of roses.