October 17, 2016 - 1:53am — Wildrose
Hi.
This may be a bit blunt but what do people really want from new players in this community? I am not talking about wanting stuff like "art etc." but more like role-play side of the community? What do you guys do to attract role play to your own characters ? Some people have said be your self which I can say most new players do try including my self, Been around this community for 2 years now which to me that is quiet a while with out going with out role-play or even making friends from this site. I have managed to meet Vessan and kamaya, kamaya has helped me out a lot with ccs which I thank her alot. Vessan did peace of art work for me and offered abit of role-play for me which I happly took up from her. I even talked to her on Skype for the first time which was a lovely experience for me and I hope for her as well.
So again back to the question "what do you guys expect from new players on the role-play side of things?" I have offered role-play for my character and tried to get to know people that way, but it seems my characters are not up to anyones standards ? Or maybe you guys just like role playing with well know people? ( which screams elitist in away.) I don't want to be seen as an attention grabber on this community but I have been on and off of this community for 2 years now..I seem to keep coming back with hope that I could role-play with people or even just meet people to be friends with them and have a a conversation. I just feel like I am denied all of this and pretty much feel ignored in this community most of the time. ( but a thank to all of the people that have interacted with or tried.) If comments towards this post feel like they are directed at me or just feel spiteful in any shape or form don't be surprised when I will ask you to remove them.
Thank you =) I hope things do change tbh......( it would be nice if people gave an answer to this.)
I think it's cos this
Though don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all the groups will ignore you.
For me it's like...you see all these groups who have been around for years with huge family trees and family friends and I just get intimidated and end up not bothering cos you feel like you aren't worthy (regardless of the chance that the players are the nicest people in the world).
Personally I've found that sadly, shy and quiet characters get you no where (especially if you aren't in a friend group), and it's more the active, social ones (with either good and bad intentions) that get attention cos they go out of their way to get involved. It's rare that I'll get characters that seek out my quieter ones or the ones that sit around.
Interaction and roleplay has
Without boring you with details, when I joined tef- the second I did, I heard nobody liked to branch out anymore and everyone was elitist and newbies stood no chance. BUTTTT pursuing interaction and putting efforts forth with likeminded individuals, commenting on bios, ect, gets you places!
Plenty of people on this site that I respect and like! But our types of characters don't mesh well and because of the subject matter or interests, don't really cross paths. I think that goes for a lot of people.
That's literally the only thing I've ever found makes a difference in rp and making friends here. Which is just like real life. People you have common interests with above the superficial level (being 'we both like rp or art', or outside of RP and in the real world, 'we both like the color pink' ) are people you're going to get closer to creatively if you both put in the effort. If your type of character has great chemistry from a creative standpoint with another, it might turn out great! If not, it might not go anywhere. So you find another person you think has some great characters and see what you can get going with them.
And that's not anyone's fault, it's just.. how chemistry works.
If people have the most fun interacting with people they know well, aka friends, that's not elitist. That's having people and knowing people you're comfortable with and have good creative chemistry with. It isn't purposeful exclusion or others. But if it's flat out ignoring, suppose those people are jerks..
If anyone is outright, clearly ignoring you (and not tabbed or busy or unable to figure out which character they're interacting with at all), they're not worth bothering with anyway. But there are others- move on the to the next.
I've seen many blogs where people make a similar point to yours, feeling excluded. While I can understand, the funny part is those 10 people who also pop up to say they feel excluded too don't even interact with each other though they've all said they've tried with everyone.
AND SO AGAIN I .. gdi i have to say chemistry again
Chemistry and effort. Sometimes one sided, which sucks but :{ sometimes it starts out that way, where you make the effort solely and it pays off. Dash out those ideas, interact in-game a bunch. You say you've had positive interaction with two people and I think that's an amazing place to start, and more than plenty of others can say!
So I'd just keep up what you're doing, if I were you.
There is some truth in what
At one time, years ago, everyone was new, and (almost) all the characters introduced to the Forest were first-generation, friendless blank-slates... The Forest was a small place and most characters knew of each other simply through the fact that the social pool was limited. Over time, characters started having kids, who eventually had kids, who eventually had kids... Nowadays it is far more common for a new character to be introduced as the offspring or plot device of others - and so the player of this character has a predetermined foundation for interaction and connections. The population of the Forest has grown exponentially, and so less inclusive.
Because of this, it's going to be harder for new characters/new players to establish themselves, unfortunately. I wish it was "like it used to be," but I can't change the way TEF has evolved over time (but that might be the nostalgia talking
That being said, I'm sorry you've had a negative experience thus far. It can help being active on the forums, or at least commenting on bios or blog posts from time to time. It also helps a ton if you make yourself available outside the forums on email, or preferably Skype (or Discord? idk, i haven't jumped on the Discord bandwagon yet lol). All of my characters are open to interaction with anyone, and if you have Skype you should hmu! My username there is cro-magna (:
Best of luck to you! Hope to see you in the Forest~
Discord: Gulonine#4267
I don't have much to add, I
Even when players say they're open to interaction and yada yada etc, I have never been able to work out in my mind what would make one approach the other just suddenly one day. This is one thing that's great about events like the Rut, where characters often hang around complete strangers, but a lot of that doesn't seem to carry over once it's over and it's like being a stranger again.
If you can work around that (ie "help my character is hurt") it makes more sense but to in regards to that...it's also difficult if you're like me and extremely reluctant to bother most people on Skype :''')
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This is one of my problems too, even moreso with antisocial characters. I end up oocly dragging them over to other characters because it's the only way they're gonna get the interaction. It sucks cos it breaks character but I dunno what else you can really do ingame.
Feel like I'm just sort of
In my experience, it's a matter of just plain old interest. If your character bores me or seems like an 'eh, I've seen this before' character or just... well, is a bad character, I'm not going to be interested in interacting. Which is not to say that there are objectively bad characters (negating Mary Sues) or that your characters specifically are bad. This is for me, in general. If I think that a character is just gross in some way or another, I'm not going to play with them and I might even go out of my way to avoid them. I'm within my right to do that, as a roleplayer. Nobody is obligated to play with anybody else.
That being said I know exactly how you're feeling and I've felt it a lot for most of the time I've been here. Personally, I roll with it. I'm not incredibly active anymore and I'm okay with letting the forest run while I do something else, or I just do nothing and I people-watch while listening to the nice forest ambience. In fact, I can find in-forest interaction to be kind of exhausting or trying. I have questionable motor skills sometimes, and I'm easily distracted, so sometimes I'd really prefer to have my deer sit with friends while I watch a video instead of jump around and play. But that's my experience, and I'm totally aware that I'm a complete couch potato!
And yeah as stated somewhere else, groups in forest are usually engaged in Skype RPs, and there's usually no IC reason for characters to just waltz up to a deer that's sitting and minding their own business. Unless your character is very young or otherwise extremely inquisitive. Which is fine, but not extremely common. As also stated somewhere else, families are big in TEF, but they often require an existing friend group so BLEH.
I think another thing is that, truthfully, people are skeptical of new members. Sometimes they don't stick around very long or they just vanish without warning, which is okay! TEF isn't for everyone, and life happens. You're not forced to be here. Often, there are language barriers with new members, or they're very young and not everybody is comfortable interacting with younger people. Not only for social reasons, but for legal ones; Terebetha was always good about reminding everyone about conduct around minors. A good chunk of the community is adults, and while it's not like COPPA is going to come beating down doors over a niche internet game, it can still be sort of questionable to have much older adults engaging in roleplay with minors, ESPECIALLY with characters that have less-than family friendly traits, even if the roleplay isn't necessarily bad. I feel like I explained that poorly but TL;DR we're (or at least I am) skeptical of and hesitant about newer players because they are, more often than not, not what I'm looking for in a day's worth of interaction.
I feel like this got really rambly and maybe I am not very nice for some of the views I hold... I don't intend to upset anybody, of course, but I will take ownership for it if I do. I know not all these things apply to you specifically, but they're the reasons I most often avoid players/characters.
I've been on the community
I think the most important thing is just to reach out to other people. You should not expect people to flock to you, especially if you are a newer player. That's just like how it is in real life. Reaching out and talking to people, finding people who share similar interests as you do, treat them how you want to be treated, etc. = friends. And if you are shy about reaching out to people, maybe enter the game with an OOC deer at times? Imo, it's a lot easier for me to approach the other deer OOCly. It's helping me become less shy. Maybe this can help for you? But I do feel the same way as you do. I do have a few close friends from this site, and I love those guys. And I have a few that are not as close, but still love them regardless lmao. My biggest problem is feeling as if I am not welcome. I know a lot of the players are very kind, but I feel as if I am invading at times if I approach in game. There is often a lot of stuff going on with the deer that happens in text rp I feel. From what I read a lot of you guys share this feeling.
[e] And also I feel like The Rut is a great chance to meet a bunch of characters that you would usually never approach. At least for me. I always try to come around during September just to join in and meet some new folks.
And lastly if you would like, you are always welcome to approach my deer in game. I don't judge. I can also seek out your deer if you feel too shy. I just have a hard time with remembering everyone's pictos. Sometimes it feels like learning a new language memorizing all of these name symbols.. Or if you want you can add me on Skype and maybe even teach me how to RP or just to talk if you want.
And also, sorry if I have repeated anyone. I have bad eyes and it's hard for me to read everything smh..
Hey there. I saw you and your
I saw you and your Felbane ingame a couple of days ago. I think my Starless interacted with her, too. He's an outgoing character, albeit anxiously mannered, but if you want we can interact again and see if they click and hang out more regularly.
My Skype is theetherealvee. Feel free to add me if you ever want to roleplay.
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Thank you as well for the kind confident boost you have given me to keep on trying with things!
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