- THE CORNER-

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It took time to find the correct words, but The Corner is just about players having fun, being random, and staying light-hearted.




Lets add a little " Currently listening to" section here:
Notify me poeplz, so I can add your newest music addictions.

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or not!

or not!

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or

or

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oooorrrr

oooorrrr

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Page 12 is looking handsome.

Page 12 is looking handsome.

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Stop spamming page 12! >:

Stop spamming page 12! >: -O

Ähm, to be honest I've the bad feeling that I should say goodbye to the computer for some time. I'd like to join my dog now and try a bit old-fashioned drawing Smiling

And remove my name from your signature! x-D I don't wanna everyone to read my name : -DDD
(thank you nevertheless! x-) )
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*sticks

*sticks tongue*
NFFFF..!
Drawing too!
Removing name!
Spamming!

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@ Kamino This is for you.

@ Kamino
This is for you. Smiling
Quote:
Also... your signature... It looks so freaky, I don't even... Do want! I've always wanted to be able to draw a stare like that TwT (Yeah, I know you didn't draw it, but I just had to speak my mind TwT)



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Hey! Put my name in there

Hey! Put my name in there again! x-DDD
Of course not seriously ; -D But I feel flattered Smiling I'ts "freaky" x-D
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You seized the expression I

You seized the expression I wanted, intense stare, half absent, and looking right into you.


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I'm glad you think that =) Ya

I'm glad you think that =) Ya know I tried to make him more smile in the last final final version. Hope I didn't destroy his expression x-D

Ok, see you, I should sleep now /:-)
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I wish you all a very good

I wish you all a very good night , my awesome friends Exclaim!!! Eye Smiling
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Good night Fly!!!! Argh

Good night Fly!!!!
Laughing out loud Laughing out loud
Argh I just woke up, can't sleep again.

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Thank you flyleaf! I did

Thank you flyleaf! I did sleep well Laughing out loud :-D

Oh no! How is it possible to wake up at 4 o'clock and not be able to sleep? It's absolutely incredible to me O_o
I hope you drank your sedative tea from uncle flyleaf.

Has anybody here an idea of this Pirates of the Caribbean-enthusiasm which is going on here? Particularly because I didn't like the 4. part that much ;-P Laughing out loud

Ok, next try. I tried to use that eye-experiment, I tried to make him more smile. But you won't see it from far Smiling
Dunno, but I've the feeling that this simple eye is working better from distance now...
I know you said it was ok, Nayu, but there the changes (except for the eye) were, as I said, already done^^ I hope that I don't keep you to from critique ': -D


Ok, I'm going to draw now (yes, I'm worried about my wrist x-D), can't find a good design for Federweber (she's always looking like an old buck O_o).

Ignore all this moaning! I'm actually de bonne humeur ^^
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Thank ya Kami, I guess I'll

Thank ya Kami, I guess I'll use both versions depending on my moods! Laughing out loud
Now is my turn to attack Feder's design.
Well, dear deers, I won't be able to connect too much for a few days, so behave!
(Herbal tea helps indeed, I've been sick for a few days now, it wakes me at night, that's why! Laughing out loud )
I hope you're all doing great!

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Everything fine, and have no

Everything fine, and have no fear of pirates Sticking out tongue



Hope you'll get better soon, little Nayu *nuzzle nuzzle*
[*returns to lurking mode*]
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It's been a while Okino, glad

It's been a while Okino, glad to here from you. Laughing out loud
Seems like you needed a bit of time for yourself, thought I hope to see more of you, here, and in-game.
*Nuzzles*
Thanks for this cute little post!

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@ Kamino I found some nice

@ Kamino
I found some nice stuffs for you, but will post them tomorrow because it's getting a bit late.
Gudnight people.

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Feeling a little bit better

Feeling a little bit better now ?? I am worried about you !!
Sweet dreams Exclaim and get better soon Exclaim
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(Agh, ain't feeling better at

(Agh, ain't feeling better at all, but it's nothing worth worrying over, really! Eye )
Sweet dreams to you too Fly! I hope you're well.
Thank ya!
Laughing out loud
*nuzzles*

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Sweet dreams !! i am well ,

Sweet dreams !! i am well , thanks !!
But i am worried Eye
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Teenage Weird Looking




Teenage Weird Looking Humanized Nayu done on MS PAINT with my laptop's finger pad from hell! ROFLmao! Well, at least it was fun.
Don't laugh too much at the poor guy, he might bite your eyes off!

Never do that...seriously, your fingers will just fall apart, MS PAINT is pure madness. Puzzled


@Fly, a few pancakes and everything should be in order. Laughing out loud

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OtherkinOS: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

OtherkinOS:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not you, Nayu! Why turns everyone into a pirate? D->
I think I met you some days ago in the forest. We had some silly fun Laughing out loud

Nayu:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not you, Nayu! Why draw all people manga? Why do you all obey fashion!? :_-(
(although that's not really a surprise, I'm decue! >: -O)

But I'm very surprised that you got that without graphics tablet and with paint (x-D) (I guess you know that, but probably with your graphics tablet there will be some drawing programs delivered).

Get well soon and what a pity that you won't be in the forest in the next time Sad
(I found out how to become a fat frog! I wanna Nayu to be a monster bunny : -DDD)
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What ?? Done with paint on

What ?? Done with paint on the laptop pad !! No kidding ?
This looks great !! I love the blue eyes Exclaim!!!!!!and the little cross hanging down from his ear Smiling
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lolz! @, you whiny old hag!

lolz!
@, you whiny old hag! ( though I have a BD kind of style anyway)
I want to be a bunny killer!
Starting to slowly feel better, I hope it will last. Laughing out loud

@Fly, rofl, boredome and illness make you do strange things.

Will you guys be connected sometime today?

edit: a bit of a "indiscrète" question, mais Kami, t'as payé combien ta tablette graphique?

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x-D I like cartoon-style! I

x-D I like cartoon-style! I only hate manga and anime ^^ 80% of the girlies I know like manga (and try drawing it...) °_^
But I'm curios about your style ^^

I'm kinda relaxed today (???!??!), so yes, I've got time, I've got the fast PC, I'll be around there in the forest. Laughing out loud

The tablet was a present of my (a bit prosperous^^) grandpa, so I don't know exactly, but surely around 200€. It's a Bamboo Fun Pen&Touch Medium, which at amazon costs 160€ at the moment.
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I'll join you soon then, just

I'll join you soon then, just need to finish translating some stuffs for you.
I'm not sure what you call manga style, "this? okay, "but this for example?. How would you call it?
You're missing out a lot by hating mangas and animes though, there are some pearls out there.
Ugh, 160 euros is expensive...
What to do...




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On with some

On with some mythology:

Ravens:

General symbolism:


Beyond the negative symbolism, ravens are associated with chosen reclusion and the desire to reach a superior conscience ( on a psychological level) .

Suetonus, a roman historian, defined the raven cries, as “cras”, which means “tomorrow” in latin, granting it a hopeful connotation (in opposition to The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe, where the animal cries “nevermore”.)

It has often been described as a psychopomp , that is to say, a creature that guides the departed in the afterlife.

Alchimist associated the raven to putrefaction of materials .

And althought you seemed more interrested in occidental symbolisms, there are some really interesting stuffs to dig in orient/north American mythologies and cosmogonies:

North American Indians legend, (Wikipedia):

“A raven story from the Puget Sound region describes the "Raven" as having originally lived in the land of spirits (literally bird land) that existed before the world of humans. One day the Raven became so bored with bird land that he flew away, carrying a stone in his beak. When the Raven became tired of carrying the stone and dropped it, the stone fell into the ocean and expanded until it formed the firmament on which humans now live.

In the creator role, and in the Raven's role as the totem and ancestor of one of the four northwest clan houses, the Raven is often addressed as Grandfather Raven. It is not clear whether this form of address is intended to refer to a creator Raven who is different from the trickster Raven, or if it is just a vain attempt to encourage the trickster spirit to act respectably.”

There is also a tale about how a raven stole the sun and brought the light to humans. Try to search for it in german if you’re interrested.

In China, it’s a solar bird. 10 ravens have brought light to the world, but 9 were killed by Yi fearing the light may consume everything. One was left and has been represented with 3 legs, its body caged in the sun.




German mythology:

I guess this is the most famous part.

There were two ravens perched on Odin's trone, nammed respectively Huginn (meaning "thought" in old Norse) and Muninn ("memory"). Both represented the principle of creation opposed to the two wolves accompaning the god, representating the principle of destruction. The two ravens were send to roam over Migdar ( world of the humans) and came back during the night to whisper what they saw and heard to Odin.

Celtic mythology:

German wiki !

Morrigan is a « godess » associated with ravens :

« Morrígan ['moRi??in?], auch Morrígain, Morrígu, Morríghan, Mor-Ríoghain, selten Mórrígan (keltisch: „Große Königin“), ist eine Figur der irischen Mythologie »

« Der Name lässt sich aus dem protokeltischen marwo für ‚tot‘ und altirisch rígain ‚Königin‘ erklären. Diese Deutung war im Mittelalter mit der Gleichsetzung mit Morgane als Abholerin des Leichnams von König Arthur auf die Apfelinsel Avalon vorherrschend. Für die Antike und das Frühmittelalter kommt aber auch die Deutung der ersten Silbe als mór für ‚groß‘ in Frage.[1]”


Badb:

“Badb [baðv] („Kampfeswut“), auch Bodb [boðv] (nicht zu verwechseln mit dem männlichen Gott Bodb Derg), Bodhb Chatha („Kampf-Bodhb“, „Schlachtkrähe“ [?]) oder Fea genannt, ist eine Gestalt der mittelalterlichen irischen Sagenwelt.

Im Lebor Gabala Eirenn wird sie als Mitglied der Tuatha de Danann, und zwar als Tochter des Aed Abrat und der Ernmas, sowie Enkelin Bresals genannt, stammt also sowohl aus der Familie Nuadas als auch des Dagda. Sie gilt als Schwester der Macha oder Nemain und der Morrigan oder Anand/Anu. Wie ihre beiden Schwestern erscheint auch Badb als dreifache Göttin oder in dreifacher Gestalt („Triade der Kriegsgöttinnen“).

Wahrscheinlich geht mittelirisch Bodb Chatha auf eine alte, in der Gallia narbonensis (Département Haute-Savoie) verehrte keltische Gottheit namens (C)athubodva Augusta zurück[1].”


Bran The Blessed:

“Brân Fendigeid [bra?n ven'digeid], auch Bendigeidfran oder Bendigeitvran, („Gesegnete Krähe“, „Segensrabe“, von irisch/lateinisch benedicatios) ist ein Riese aus mittelalterlichen, walisischen Sagen. Gemäß den Erzählungen des Mabinogion ist er der Sohn Ll?rs, des walisischen Meeresgottes, und seiner Gemahlin Penarddun. Obwohl er von Göttern abzustammen scheint, wirkt er, abgesehen von seiner Größe, eher menschlich. Seine Geschwister sind Manawydan und Branwen. Er hat noch zwei Halbbrüder, Nissyen und Efnisien, deren Vater Eurosswydd ist.

Er tritt in mehreren Teilen der walisischen Triaden, aber vor allem im zweiten Zweig des Mabinogion, Branwen, Tochter des Llyr, als König von Wales oder Britannien auf. In dieser Erzählung rettet er seine Schwester Branwen in Irland.

Aus dem Walisischen übersetzt, bedeutet Bran “Krähe”. Oft wird er in den Erzählungen jedoch auch “Rabe” genannt. Beide Vögel gehören zur Gattung ‚’Corvus’’ in der Familie der Rabenvögel.”


Lug is sometime associated with ravens too, but I haven’t found anything yet.


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Yay! Reading at the moment! :

Yay! Reading at the moment! : -DDD

Dunno. I know that some mangas look almost look like... er... other comics, I mean why should japanese only draw that ugly way. But to be honest, why is it manga then? Why is there a difference between japanese and other comics? (I guess japanese are a bit crazier. Nice prejudice Laughing out loud) I personally can say that it's not only the style, also the content which I don't like (although I admit that I've no experience Laughing out loud).
For the examples: First is, like you certainly assumed^^) Barf! . Second: If there where many mangas like this, it would be ok to me. But there are those special things about this style I simply don't like. But of course the worst about those girls and their mangas are that they are soooo antifeminist. And that people make these exaggerated, ugly expressions^^.

Sorry for prattling, but I never may say that I hate hate HATE it because everyone is a fan of cute (or brutal Frown ) mangas... I hope it's better now after I one time had a good moan ^^

I guess that there are cheaper possibilities. I saw tablets for 50€, but of course I've no idea about the quality. A problem could be that the tablet shouldn't be too small to draw, and the size is the most expensive part ^^'
ebay could be another risky way...

edit: hey, thank you! (me: wtf, german??!? x-D). God, seems that you can make much enquiries there O_o I haven't any idea of irish-celtic mythology, so thank you again! : -D
I can say that most of the symbolism matches perfectly the crow's goddess, but Feder is more the windy side^^, so I guess only raven could not be her main bird (x-))
I guess I'll steal some of this for volucrian mythology x-D
God, I love languages and cultures <-)

Wocio and flyleaf are at the forest now, it's funny! Laughing out loud Ups, I think fly has left... Sad
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Guess I wasn't of great help!

Guess I wasn't of great help! Laughing out loud It was fun though, and I may join you guys a bit later.

I really want to bite your head off for being so prejudicied! You should open up yourself a bit Kamino! Puzzled
Whether in manga, comics, animes and cartoons, the variety is far from lacking.
The "big eye" style is maybe the most popular, but manga means " caricatural/whimsical style" and Disney, a few years back, was just as much over-abusing this chara-design. Mangas, in essence, are a great heritage of japan cultural art= work on empty spaces, flowing lines and purged content ( really brievly and messily summarized).

The second pic in my earlier post was from Massive Swerve, an artbook and short film made by Robert Valley, a great artist mostly known for his work on Gorillaz's clips.

You can't categorize with this black and white kind of perspective. Or I might just spank you till you cry red.

Look at how differents is all these:

Manga only or this post will know no end.


Omega

Me and the Devil Blues

Spice and Wolf

Omoide Emanon


Nijigahara Holograph

Ok I can't resist, some BD/comics artists:


Sergio Toppi

Juanjo Guarnido

Barbucci and Canepa

Run

Damn, just, f... my poor english, I can't barely say what I want!! Sad









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... I like manga and anime !

...
I like manga and anime !

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There are so many manga

There are so many manga styles and anime !! It is impossible to show them all .
I enjoy watching movies of Hayao Miyazaki like princess Mononoke and so on !!
And i like Albator and Goldorak on tv !! They have other names in english !
Albator is captain Harlock ( I think ) .
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Watch ponyo already dimmit!

Watch ponyo already dimmit!
Laughing out loud

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Yes . Don't frighten meeeee

Yes . Don't frighten meeeee Lol !!
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YES YES Miyazakiii Mononokeee

YES YES
Miyazakiii
Mononokeee :F
I loved that movie Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue
(I think that's one of the reasons why Fangorn uses that mask Laughing out loud )

And ...PONYO !! I want to watch itttttt
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Sorry, but what do you think

Sorry, but what do you think for how long my friend tried to convince me that manga isn't only what I scorn. And she's chinese, so she thinks she knows more than the other girls.

But if I see it's manga style, I don't like it. Probably also because everyone else likes it.
If I can't see the manga style, which means to me terrible proportions, exaggerated expressions, tiny noses (I HATE tiny noses >:-/), too long legs, strange hair and so on, it's ok. It's like every other comic then, I mean it was created from american comics. But I won't be interested in a cartoon just because it's manga. And japanese culture might be interesting, but there are sooooo many other cultures which aren't that exploited Frown
Our graduation motto was japanese! >.° And this smiley is also japanese! Aaaaaah!

My problem with manga is that I think the important ting about comic is to find your own style. But everyone is copying those goggle eyes! And Disney invented that style, which was taken by the japanese. He invented it. So I've nothing against it.

Everyone likes manga and japan. I don't. I'm reading a manga of my friend at the moment, so I don't refuse it categorically. But I don't like it.

(Yeah, that's one reason why I do sword fighting. Wanna do any martial arts? It's oly ASIAN here! ONLY! Nothing against asia. But no one can believe that medieval sword fighting still exists and that it not has to be ashamed in view of great katanas. Medieval Fechten is high art, at least as effective as the asian one. Ok. Have to stop myself. Going off topic... -_-)
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I like Asian stuff

I like Asian stuff
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@Wocio Yea , you stole the

@Wocio
Yea , you stole the mask in the film lool!!
@Kamino
I understand you .
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YES I KNOW! EVERYONE LIKES

YES I KNOW! EVERYONE LIKES ASIAN STUFF! E V E R Y O N E !
Exclaim

I'll go crazy!

Flyleaf: x-D
But you like it, don't you? O_o thanks nevertheless^^
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What I really wanted to say

What I really wanted to say is...

“Many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.”

There's a great guy name James William who said this. Laughing out loud

I won't debate about japan culture, who inspired who (though I disagree with you), this is more what is behing the thinking that bothers me.

Prejudices are closed doors.



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And craziness is the best

And craziness is the best stuff in this world!
After cats.

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.... and snakes

....
and snakes
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Tension broken. Though, I

Tension broken.
Though, I hope my point was made.
I'm a pighead, beat me!
*sticks tongue out and runs away*

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Yep. But I hope you know,

Yep. But I hope you know, Nayu, that all our judgements are prejudices Eye Prejudices are a essential part of our brain. The only important thing is to change our prejudices when you notice they are wrong.

(And btw, the most important thing I learned in my life is that prejudices are true -_- It's really frustrating to understand that, but it is like this. CDU is evil. Humans are evil. Women only want money. Men only want pretty women. Dogs like to be tickled at their ears. Chinese pupils have a terrible life. And you shouldn't take prejudices too seriously Eye)

And yes. I like craziness. But the japanese one is not my style. Frown

Yes, let's not again talk about this topic.
I'm young and I have my own philosophy which no one seems to understand O_o
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Hummmmmmm humm * holds mouth

Hummmmmmm humm * holds mouth closed*

ARGHHHH!!!

... I'm not criticizing prejudices in itself, categorizing is normal as you said. But they are pre- jugement, reducing and stereotyping beliefs made out of minimum gathered informations. Assumptions. Inconsistent by definition. Labeling. Aka "how to make the world easier for me to understand it". This is the first step to forming an opinion, and it's absolutely okay and logical behaviour...as long as you make the following steps necessary to get past the "pre" in "prejudice". Sad

I guess we can't agree on this, and it's no drama. Laughing out loud

I'm not trying to get on your nerves, but hope somehow my words will stick, or that you will tuck them away in your back pocket for later thinking. Eye

I luv ya, just so you know, I'm not angry or saying this to annoy you.

Topic closed, unless you want to add something.

I'm sorry if I sounded a bit harsh...

And I was eating between the two replies, sorreyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!










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x-D You may eat! Yes. We

x-D You may eat!

Yes. We won't aggree on this, I'm sure. There are these topics where both parties think they're right and can't understand what the other one doesn't understand^^ And it seems the best to avoid these topics.

(But the problem is: The more people try to convert me, the more I get donkey : -D)

All my friends like manga, so I guess I'll cope with it (But there will very likely be some nasty comments).

Now I'll try to find out who that guy is who's lying next to me O_o

edit: maybe you niticed: My nuzzle doesn't work! x-DDD
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PFFFFFFFFFFiouuu. I'll be

PFFFFFFFFFFiouuu.
I'll be honest, "debating" in another language is tiring.
ROFL Laughing out loud
Seems like we are both very stubborn, it cracks me up a bit. ( inalikemotherlikesonkindofway.)
Have you stayed with these deers all evening?
Now, some fun is in order!



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Yes, I stayed with them some

Yes, I stayed with them some time^^

A moment, I'm making my first "Who's that?"-Thread x-D
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Go on! How did you manage to

Go on!
How did you manage to get changed into such a huge frog?? XD

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x-D Found Instructions. It's

x-D Found Instructions. It's pretty easy! : -DDD

1. save shapeshift spell
2. worship at the twin god's
3. load your appearance while worshiping
4. wait until the devout pelt has left - you'll become a fat frog O_o C-:
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Lulz! I will definitely try!

Lulz! I will definitely try!

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