Fan art in the game!

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Hello there!
I am Margo Putzeys, a student Game- and Digital Design and I am currently doing my internship with Tale of Tales. I am still studying but I will be entering my Master year next schoolyear.
For my internship Auriea Harvey and Michael Samyn asked me if I wanted to work with the players and make models and concept art together. And with great pleasure I accepted this of course! This means you will be able to add art to the game!

But there are some 'rules' attached to this: If you make a 3D model, pleas send it as an .OBJ file to me. But a .Blender file ( Blender's file extension ) would be even better! But a .OBJ is good as well! As for the concept art you can send a photoshop file, PNG of JPEG.

So what can you make? Well it's like a set that the deers can wear in the game! This set includes: a mask, antlers and a pelt. Both made for the adult deer AND the baby deer. You can (if some of you know how and want to) texture these models by using a UV map. If you do texture them, send texture files as a PNG. ( PNG supports transparancy )
But of course you are never obligated to making more than you like. The meaning of this task is also for me to make stuff, so if you only would like to make the adult deer's models, that's fine by me. I can always texture them, add models, etc.

So if any of you are interested in putting your art or 3D models in the game. Send them to me and I can adjust them if necessary or take a look if something needs to be changed and so on.
You can of course also send your concept art to me and I can realise that concept art into a 3D model which may have a chance to be put in the actual game: The Endless Forest!

My e-mail adres is : Margo.Putzeys@gmail.com. I hope I will be hearing soon from you guys!!

Greetings,
Margo


EDIT: from Michael and Auriea --
To be clear, we want Margo to do ALL of the modeling and ALL of the texturing. Because that is what her internship is about. YOU, players, are requested to send her concept art or point her to already existing concept art (on this very website, for instance). SHE can choose which concepts she models and textures. But WE, Auriea and Michaël, choose which go into the game. We hope there will be many!
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Quote: Love that swan concept

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Love that swan concept by Jin, too. I think that's definitely something worth considering, would please the masses - not only would you get your white pelt, but your antlers similar to a whitetail's (been dying to have some in the game) and a full, completed set with the mask. Plus, not overly difficult to model/texture, but also not too plain/boring.


You got a point there and I am considering it! Among with a lot of other concepts Shocked
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Quote: Love that swan concept

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Love that swan concept by Jin, too. I think that's definitely something worth considering, would please the masses - not only would you get your white pelt, but your antlers similar to a whitetail's (been dying to have some in the game) and a full, completed set with the mask. Plus, not overly difficult to model/texture, but also not too plain/boring.


You got a point there Krystal and I am considering it! Among with a lot of other concepts Shocked
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May I make a suggestion of

May I make a suggestion of how to choose??

Go with things that are completely different than what we already have, especially with the colors, so the few (or however many we get) that are chosen will cover the colors we don't have yet and give a better range for us to use. I'm saying this because we have a good imagination on matching sets with what our deer look like, but we lack color in the game and so some feel limited in what they could do. If we can get one of each basic color covered, and some combinations, then people will have an easier time choosing a set that closest fits their deer.

Good example would be Herla's original design. Simple black with blue and green markings witht he white around the eyes and the peacock feathers. It matched the Dot D pelt with the orca mask and peacock feather antlers. Not an exact copy of the set but unique and the set was close enough to match her well in-world. If we could get a wide range of different things, it would cover a huge bit of possible pelt concepts out of the forest.


Not good with wording, but hope that might help.
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Quote: Honestly, I'm not big

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Honestly, I'm not big fan of them either. :'D I just liked the idea of smoke antlers but I don't have any idea how to make decent looking smoke antlers...
I might try making alternative antler and mask designs for some of my pelts later - masks and antlers are really hard to design.


I understand that Kohva. Maybe alternative antlers would be a good idea indeed Smiling
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BlueOrchid: I don't think

BlueOrchid: I don't think "invisible" antlers would be implemented in the game soon.
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SoliloquyChryseis's picture

Hi Margo! I posted some of

Hi Margo!

I posted some of my new designs HERE as to not overload you with images on your thread here Smiling
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jalawhey: I never heard of

jalawhey: I never heard of hacking this game before! Think M&A would get mad either ways when you hack their game, no? Regardless of the antlers.

Anyway, I personally am not a fan of an antlerless feature since that's not what I think they intended. An antlerless deer would mean just the base deer without antlers on it. I don't think it would be useful. But that's my opinion on it.

Also, maybe a permanent black or white pelt would be great too? I don't know if it means they always have to be 'special', but even if they are, there is nothing wrong with another black or white pelt. But again, my opinion.

Either way, I pick what I want indeed and I don't really listen to the commanding stuff Sticking out tongue Thank you for sticking up for me tho Sticking out tongue But I get that everyone wants a say, after all, who doesn't want to make stuff for a game they like? But in the very end, to agree with you, it's indeed not up to me Sad M&A pick if they like something or not.

I just hope people realise I don't have a say with what will be implemented in the game and what not and that I simply can't make every request Smiling I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by making them think I didn't make it because it wasn't good enough. I just don't have enough time to do everything!
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elsaelar: Really fond of Barn

elsaelar: Really fond of Barn Owl! Lovely!
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Pegasicorn: I like your idea

Pegasicorn: I like your idea of the "sunset"/"dusk" set. However, I am wondering how the antlers would be attacked to the head of the deer?
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Quote:This is awesome and

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This is awesome and I'll try to have some concepts up soon.

Is there a deadline for this?


When my internship ends probably Smiling Which is the 31th of August.
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BlueOrchid: To be honest, I

BlueOrchid: To be honest, I just pick what I like. I get your point but I don't see me making pelts or masks that I personally don't enjoy just because it's "different" and their colours are new to the game. Of course having more colour options is better and maybe their will be colourfull ones in the end that are picked.

You also have to concider even though I would pick based on colour, who says M&A agree to put them ALL in the game? Maybe they won't like the concepts, who I didn't like as well but just picked because of the colours?

Thanks for your suggestion anyway, BlueOrchid Laughing out loud
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SoliloquyChryseis: There are

SoliloquyChryseis: There are some concepts in there that I enjoy! I'll see if I can use them Smiling
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I'm so glad you like them!

I'm so glad you like them!
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Hey. So I am suppose to be

Hey. So I am suppose to be away for a few days, however couldn't help but comment once seeing some of these concepts and the reply by Michäel and Aurïea.. My two cents:

I see some of these as unnatural, I will honestly be disappointed, if its what M&A pick since it's their decision. The effort you put into these-- I don't know how long it takes you, or how experienced you are. However, I'm going to play the devils advocate and ask: you see the black jaguar and bah-bah, conceptually you would even bother to make those? The original idea wasn't even about anything such as this. Its why a few antlers and masks didn't go in the game years ago or got taken out, because they were seen as "unnatural or unfitting" for the game and its original concept / idea. Rah-bop made that wolf mask. It didn't get implemented in the game for a reason. People need to think throughly and consider things that actually have a chance of being put. I understand that you are an intern, and want to do a good job, trustingly. I'm glad Michael and Auriea are making the final decisions after these are made.

..Those concepts didn't get picked before, they won't get picked again, hopefully. It was all normal deer 7-9 years ago, I don't see why it wouldn't be again with genuine creative pelts such as the swan one, ram, or beetle, ect. Those I pointed out in above paragraph, however, don't fit if you ask me.
I'm really trying to have faith that M&A will stick to their original vision and not allow anything ugly, ill thought out or against the nature of the game put in it. But I'm not feeling very respected right now by the creators. This whole thing seems a bit of a slap in the face to those of us that have been here for years and love and cherish this game, for a few reasons. I am not the only person that has said this. I donate Euros a month to keep the game here just like many other members.
If they do inept stuff, can't say I'll want to keep donating. I know this won't accomplish anything by me saying it, but its still my views.


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Track this. Maybe I'll make

Track this. Maybe I'll make something too (:
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Ah, I knew I forgot to color

Ah, I knew I forgot to color something. XD; I had the normal "stumps" that stick up on the deer model sketched in and forgot to indicate them when I colored the design itself. It's basically where that darker color on top of the head gets broken up. Feel free to tweak some things if you decide to work with it.
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I hope i am not sounding rude

I hope i am not sounding rude but what about the Butterfly pelt and whistler mask....and the zombie , Dodt set and others like the Long Mask , Crying mask and so on ....aren't these "Unnatural" too ?
I think it is Art ..and that's what is all about here .
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Matthew: First off, I pick

Matthew: First off, I pick what I like. It is not because I pick it, it ends up in the game because M&A decide. And it's their game. However I get that you find some of them 'unnatural'. This maybe true but I find a lot of these designs 'creative'.

It's possible that some designs are loved by some and hated by others. But the fact you don't like the 'unnatural' designs, is your opinion. I personally love the things the players have posted so far even though they could be considered unnatural.

I heard before some of the stuff was cut out because of this reason and I will keep this in mind. Because I would also rather make stuff that will be picked in the end of course Smiling

But in the end, I like some of the unnatural designs too Smiling And I respect the choices that M&A will make.
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Hello Matt! Can't help but

Hello Matt! Can't help but put a few question marks over things you said here. Perhaps I am confused by how you worded things, but what is wrong with some of these pelts conceptually? Also, who are you to judge about that? Also going to ask what exactly is "unnatural" or "unfitting" for the game. And again also asking you why you think you get to judge over that.

I agree that digging up old concepts that were not done before is not useful. There's a lot being made by people right now, digging up old concepts is a little lazy + clogging. Margo already gets a lot of suggestions! New members means new input, let the new people make their things instead of digging up old stuff. Of course I love the old stuff too but, yeah. May not be very useful.

I'm pretty sure M&A will stick to their vision, but if that is your vision of course leaves to be seen. "Ugly" is subjective. Some people might not agree with the final choices. And some will love them. The fact that stuff is getting added to the game after people have been whining for it for years is to me, pretty awesome. Now I do put my question marks at the method, since apparantly now it's clear it's not that hard at all to put new stuff in, but when people offered to make stuff they were rejected. But that we have Margo now is great regardless and I'm sure it's super practice for her too.

I don't see any face slapping in my opinion, and I donate as well. How much are you expecting, really? Perhaps if this all goes well we'll be allowed to do more in the future? Who knows?

The reality is that people have wanted some input for years. We're getting it now. Make the best of it! Smiling
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Flyleaf, You don't sound

Flyleaf,

You don't sound rude. The jist of what my post is, try to do work that is in the spirit if the game and not going too much out of line just because others think everything is amazing. Im not saying dont get creative, I pointed out the other concepts that I thought myself were great ideas. Its my views alone, you don't have to agree with them. Overally, I dont think the concepts of predators will go in the game anyway.
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Since your internship doesn't

Since your internship doesn't last long, I think it would be a smart move to focus on the versatility / interchangeability of things we already have, as well as new items you plan on implementing into the game. It makes items more flexible.
Personally, I'd like to see different variations of the real deer mask (black, white, etc.).
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Hope it's ok, if I send my

Hope it's ok, if I send my work here. Others are doing this as well, so yeah. Here's my idea: http://hiddencookie.deviantart.com/art/Sunflower-Beast-390987552?ga_submit_new=10%253A1375735309 I tried.

I hate butting in but I feel

I hate butting in but I feel like some people are being a little harsh.. There's no need to post all your opinion's here seeing as Margo is the one who's deciding anyway. xD

I just hope you enjoy your internship & have fun creating these for us Margo, and thankyou for doing so! :D

(edit) woah, okay, posts have been made quickly before I even started creating mine. xD Whoops I think what I just said has been said above maybe, but anyway.
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Well said Raktea! I'm not

Well said Raktea!

I'm not saying I don't care for their opinions but these won't influence my choices in the end Smiling
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Matt: I didn't design the

Matt: I didn't design the black jaguar pelt to make predators. Alot of the pelts such as The Great Argus, Magpie, Peacock, Monarch Butterfly, Real deer light, Real deer dark, Antelope, Orca, Secretary bird, and the Default are all based off of real animal designs. That is where I am going with most of my designs, that are based off of natural animals. Though I do have some that are based off things, like my ocean pelt. I think having pelts and colors of all creatures would be good in the game, to give pelts more diversity and giving people the chance to have more combinations of sets.

Also remember, this game was made by ARTISTS. Deer with humans faces don't exist in reality, so why can't unnatural pelts and antlers? Creativity is something we, as artists, revel in. Natural is good, but sometimes unnatural, like the Nighfall pelt, are popular and loved. Having some natural and unnatural pelts would bring more diversity in the game, as as a community this opportunity is bringing creative minds together Smiling
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Ahaila: I like everyones

Ahaila: I like everyones ideas! But I'm sorry to say but I'm afraid that a sunflower wouldn't fit well in the game Sad

Keep on drawing tho! Smiling
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Abysmal Blue and alternate

Abysmal
Blue and alternate red roan.
The ticking on the roans looks a little weird but I can't do much about it, it killed my wrist trying to put them all down there as-is, heh. I have a few more concepts floating around in my head that I might get to soon.

Edit; I also agree with Ravyn up there that some variations of current set pieces might also be nice to see. Different skull masks would be cool, and variations of antlers. Maybe a type of broken antlers like the ones seen on Phase 1 deer?
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Alright, thank you! I'll try

Alright, thank you! I'll try to make up some other designs.
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I'm starting to wonder if it

I'm starting to wonder if it wouldn't be best to just put up your concepts without all the commentary and let Margo play with whatever she likes - M&A can judge which concepts fit into the game later Eye

You all are making FANTASTIC Designs, and I can't thank Margo enough for taking on this task Laughing out loud

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Thank you so much for

Thank you so much for answering all my questions earlier <3 Super glad that you feel so welcome c=

Also squeeeeee; I am freaking out now that is has been confirmed, I was really optimistic earlier and confident that you were being sincere but actually having the creator's comment is really thrilling ;-;

Though I am getting a little nervous about the deadline and the art for other people I still have left to do, have to keep reminding myself we're not even a full week into August yet pff. So many great ideas already!
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Everyone likes dragons, don't

Everyone likes dragons, don't even deny it. I thought the fallow deer antlers would fit well, but the coloring could be something a little less dramatic; I like the shape and the colors in general, but not the 'flames' so much. I've always longed for a deep red pelt, too. Not quite black, but reminiscent of it.


With background.
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Yessssss ....

Yessssss .... Smiling
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I'm so excited! New pelts!!

I'm so excited! New pelts!! Laughing out loud
I'll probably send some concept art. I'll have a lot of time at my Grandma, I'll create some traditional way. I'd love to send something, but concept art is all I can do ^^;
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ooo Hraeth! Yess! I'd love to

ooo Hraeth! Yess! I'd love to see Fallow deer antlers in game! And that pelt is gorgeous!
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I made one concept. I hope

I made one concept. I hope that someone will like it : D

without mask & antlers: http://i44.tinypic.com/ygll3.png
with mask & antlers: http://i42.tinypic.com/idwxeb.png
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Just something for inspiration maybe...for antlers/horns... hope the links work.
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I have some sketches of sets

I have some sketches of sets based off of stringed instruments. If I can get them cleaned up I'll post them. :3
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Quote:Hraeth said: I thought

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Hraeth said:
I thought the fallow deer antlers would fit well, but the coloring could be something a little less dramatic;[...] I've always longed for a deep red pelt, too. Not quite black, but reminiscent of it.

I agree. I very like the design you did.
And maybe caribou's antlers too?
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Hokay. Been on an Africa kick

Hokay. Been on an Africa kick lately, and I love red/gold/browns but there aren't very many in the game, so I modified a design I had a bit...
Kudu antlers/some markings, red/gold/brown pelt, African-referenced mask

With mask:

(and messed up lines 'cause I altered the colors afterwards)
Trying to make them less bright without blending things into orange...

Beneath the mask:

(with the too-bright colors)


...if I had to pick pieces out of this, it'd be the mask or antlers, lol. Really would like to see a ruddy pelt, but maybe not this one.
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I love those kudu horns.

I love those kudu horns.

Also, Hraeth's set idea is awesome. Love the dragon mask and the pelt.
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Seeing as we've got a

Seeing as we've got a deadline we may as well make a community effort and cooperate.
There's a double filter to this gig, it's not up to us what ends up in the game, we can make a great pool of ideas, a pool of handy opinions on this and that.

Now what would be real good to see is some foresight put into making concepts, a touch of an abstract thinking, and love.

Stating this to counter both the pragmatic approach suggested by Ravyn as well as the influx of set pieces tailored to fit roleplay/community/possible characters.
Less of what you want to have now'n'ready and more of what spurs the mind.

Just a reminder, the community has gone through its changes and fads. The forest is here, intact, open to all and every way of playing. It's been nurturing creativity, and we owe it as much.
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Can't edit my post up there

Can't edit my post up there any more, so re-adding with just the mask/antlers... Maybe I'll make another attempt at a pelt later. That one's not working >/

Good to hear that

Good to hear that clarification! I hope this internship goes well for you, Margo! I'd like to do something like this myself someday. Hope you can have fun with it! Laughing out loud
But yes, I can probably toss some concepts your way, or provide a sort of basic line-art with multiple views (Front Back Side.) for other users here to utilize.
Was there a deadline for this? Would other users be interested in line-art or was there already one done?

If I understand well, it

If I understand well, it means new sets? <)

Yes. New sets by ideas of

Yes. Smiling
New sets by ideas of the community. People can send textures and models and concept art I think. Eye

YES, caribou's MALE antlers

YES, caribou's MALE antlers are the best and it's really natural and fitting :>


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Quote:Good to hear that

Quote:
Good to hear that clarification! I hope this internship goes well for you, Margo! I'd like to do something like this myself someday. Hope you can have fun with it! Laughing out loud
But yes, I can probably toss some concepts your way, or provide a sort of basic line-art with multiple views (Front Back Side.) for other users here to utilize.
Was there a deadline for this? Would other users be interested in line-art or was there already one done?

Margo mentioned a possible deadline in an earlier post,
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When my internship ends probably Smiling Which is the 31th of August.


Also, I'd imagine making just line art for others to utilize/add color would be extremely helpful/thoughtful and a great way of contributing, especially to those who may not consider themselves great artists but could easily work with a template provided.

There is already a basic template used by Terabetha, provided by Moss here, but that certainly shouldn't discourage you from creating your own original work with maybe unique mask/antlers.

I just became a member of the

I just became a member of the community and already there's an event that makes me fill with extreme excitement. There are so many great ideas for designs - I couldn't imagine having to make a decision on which ones get into the game and which ones don't. I would end up selecting them all, haha. Anyway, I really look forward to the final results. I'll just scoot on in here and pop a squat for now.
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this is like a dream come

this is like a dream come true. tracking!
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Watching with interest! I

Watching with interest! I don't know if you need actual concept work, but as an idea for antlers - antlers with leaves in them rather like a tree? Maybe someone could be kind enough to draw a rough concept sketch to show how they might look.
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